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Post#341 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:23 pm

pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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You would have to assume Masai has something lined up if he does this kind of deal. Considering how long it took us to get a legit C the last time, I doubt he would want to repeat that again.
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Post#342 » by Shakril » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:24 pm

pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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There is no plan. We just wasted a year of the current core to halftank the season and get wacked by the lottery gods.

If they trade for KD, i dont see the Raptors going anywhere.

My hope is simply they are making a lot smoke to hide the real target - which very well could be Giannis.
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Man I hope this won't end up being a Hakeem situation if he comes over.

Did you get to watch him play when he got here? I was way to young. What was the thought process of getting him to the Raptors at that age.
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Post#344 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:09 am

pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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IQ for a center
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Post#346 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:15 am

Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.
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Post#347 » by CazOnReal » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:48 am

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pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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IQ for a center

Great, now what do you do about the PG hole you just opened up by trading IQ?

And no, "Start Year 2 Jamal Shead" is the wrong answer.

Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.

I maintain Christian Koloko could have developed into a starting caliber big but that blood clot screwed up his trajectory.
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Post#348 » by And1Skip » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:54 am

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Man I hope this won't end up being a Hakeem situation if he comes over.

Did you get to watch him play when he got here? I was way to young. What was the thought process of getting him to the Raptors at that age.


Hakeem was already washed before we traded for him averaging 11ppg in 26 mpg and his knees wrapped in bandages like a mummy. It only costed a mid first rounder and 2nd rd pick. KD on the other hand is coming off a season averaging 26ppg in 36mpg.
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Post#349 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:00 am

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pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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IQ for a center

Great, now what do you do about the PG hole you just opened up by trading IQ?

And no, "Start Year 2 Jamal Shead" is the wrong answer.

Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.

I maintain Christian Koloko could have developed into a starting caliber big but that blood clot screwed up his trajectory.


I think it's much easier to find a decent point guard for cheap rather than a center.
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Post#350 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:09 am

CazOnReal wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:
pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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IQ for a center

Great, now what do you do about the PG hole you just opened up by trading IQ?

And no, "Start Year 2 Jamal Shead" is the wrong answer.

Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.

I maintain Christian Koloko could have developed into a starting caliber big but that blood clot screwed up his trajectory.


I was a fan of Koloko's defense but he seemed extremely limited offensively. Many players have recovered from blood clots so we'll see the type of player he eventually turns into.

The fact most teams have had better 3rd Centers than we've had backup Centers has been a big failure on Masai's part during this stretch of mediocrity. Hopefully all that changes beginning next season.
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Post#351 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:48 am

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pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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There is no plan. We just wasted a year of the current core to halftank the season and get wacked by the lottery gods.

If they trade for KD, i dont see the Raptors going anywhere.

My hope is simply they are making a lot smoke to hide the real target - which very well could be Giannis.


lol what would be the point of that? As if Masai hiding his interest in Giannis would help in any way.
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Post#352 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:51 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.


Because making this deal without a plan at C would be insane. People are assuming that Masai isn't insane and trying Project 6"9 without a C again.
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Post#353 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:05 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.


Because making this deal without a plan at C would be insane. People are assuming that Masai isn't insane and trying Project 6"9 without a C again.


Durant/Ingram/Barnes gives me project 6'9 nightmares lol
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Post#354 » by PushDaRock » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:07 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:Its funny how people just assume we'll get a good Center. Its been 5 years and this franchise has only had 1 legit Center on the team for who we had to give up a top 8 draft pick for lol.


Because making this deal without a plan at C would be insane. People are assuming that Masai isn't insane and trying Project 6"9 without a C again.


Durant/Ingram/Barnes gives me project 6'9 nightmares lol


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Post#355 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:11 am

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The Timberwolves do not want to make a seismic change to a roster that advanced to the Western Conference finals if Durant is not on board with the move, team sources said. The question now is whether there’s any chance of Durant coming around to the idea.


To this point, league and team sources said, the Spurs, Rockets and Heat have not come forward with offers for Durant compelling enough to get the Suns to bite, which means they will continue to look at the market for a deal that suits them.

As one rival executive put it, “Phoenix is trying to drum up better offers.”


The Rockets and Suns have had meaningful discussions about a deal, team sources said. Houston has a firm offer on the table but Phoenix, to this point, has been seriously underwhelmed by it. The Spurs, league sources say, have been conservative in their pursuit of Durant.


As for the Heat, who would surely love to pair Durant with Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro, it remains to be seen if they have the sort of package, or incentive, to pull it off. A deal with Miami would likely include veterans like Duncan Robinson ($19.8 million next season) and Andrew Wiggins ($28.2 million), but it’s fair to question whether those types of players would truly make a difference in Phoenix.


The Timberwolves have typically valued a player’s preferences when considering making moves of this significance.


The Wolves could, presumably, also offer the Suns an attractive trade package for a team that does not want to tear down and rebuild. Minnesota could offer a combination of Randle, Gobert and Donte DiVincenzo as strong veterans to help the Suns remain competitive in the short term. Randle played a huge role in playoff wins over the Lakers and Warriors last month, and his situation is complicated by a player option that he holds on his contract for next season.

Parting with Gobert would be difficult given how important he is to Minnesota’s defense, so it is unclear if the Wolves would be willing to do that to land Durant, especially if the All-Star is coming unwillingly. Needing to address his contract is another complicating factor considering the Wolves traded Karl-Anthony Towns to the New York Knicks in the offseason to help balance their bloated cap sheet. They put together a deeper team that will dip below the second apron at the start of the new league year in July, so the Wolves would have to think long and hard about sacrificing some of the financial flexibility gained in that trade.
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Post#356 » by Jerry Lucas » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:21 am

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The Timberwolves do not want to make a seismic change to a roster that advanced to the Western Conference finals if Durant is not on board with the move, team sources said. The question now is whether there’s any chance of Durant coming around to the idea.


To this point, league and team sources said, the Spurs, Rockets and Heat have not come forward with offers for Durant compelling enough to get the Suns to bite, which means they will continue to look at the market for a deal that suits them.

As one rival executive put it, “Phoenix is trying to drum up better offers.”


The Rockets and Suns have had meaningful discussions about a deal, team sources said. Houston has a firm offer on the table but Phoenix, to this point, has been seriously underwhelmed by it. The Spurs, league sources say, have been conservative in their pursuit of Durant.


As for the Heat, who would surely love to pair Durant with Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro, it remains to be seen if they have the sort of package, or incentive, to pull it off. A deal with Miami would likely include veterans like Duncan Robinson ($19.8 million next season) and Andrew Wiggins ($28.2 million), but it’s fair to question whether those types of players would truly make a difference in Phoenix.


The Timberwolves have typically valued a player’s preferences when considering making moves of this significance.


The Wolves could, presumably, also offer the Suns an attractive trade package for a team that does not want to tear down and rebuild. Minnesota could offer a combination of Randle, Gobert and Donte DiVincenzo as strong veterans to help the Suns remain competitive in the short term. Randle played a huge role in playoff wins over the Lakers and Warriors last month, and his situation is complicated by a player option that he holds on his contract for next season.

Parting with Gobert would be difficult given how important he is to Minnesota’s defense, so it is unclear if the Wolves would be willing to do that to land Durant, especially if the All-Star is coming unwillingly. Needing to address his contract is another complicating factor considering the Wolves traded Karl-Anthony Towns to the New York Knicks in the offseason to help balance their bloated cap sheet. They put together a deeper team that will dip below the second apron at the start of the new league year in July, so the Wolves would have to think long and hard about sacrificing some of the financial flexibility gained in that trade.

Ok now I'm starting to think KD to Toronto might happen, if the TWolves don't wanna swing on KD if he doesn't wanna be there.
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Post#357 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:26 am

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The Timberwolves do not want to make a seismic change to a roster that advanced to the Western Conference finals if Durant is not on board with the move, team sources said. The question now is whether there’s any chance of Durant coming around to the idea.


To this point, league and team sources said, the Spurs, Rockets and Heat have not come forward with offers for Durant compelling enough to get the Suns to bite, which means they will continue to look at the market for a deal that suits them.

As one rival executive put it, “Phoenix is trying to drum up better offers.”


The Rockets and Suns have had meaningful discussions about a deal, team sources said. Houston has a firm offer on the table but Phoenix, to this point, has been seriously underwhelmed by it. The Spurs, league sources say, have been conservative in their pursuit of Durant.


As for the Heat, who would surely love to pair Durant with Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro, it remains to be seen if they have the sort of package, or incentive, to pull it off. A deal with Miami would likely include veterans like Duncan Robinson ($19.8 million next season) and Andrew Wiggins ($28.2 million), but it’s fair to question whether those types of players would truly make a difference in Phoenix.


The Timberwolves have typically valued a player’s preferences when considering making moves of this significance.


The Wolves could, presumably, also offer the Suns an attractive trade package for a team that does not want to tear down and rebuild. Minnesota could offer a combination of Randle, Gobert and Donte DiVincenzo as strong veterans to help the Suns remain competitive in the short term. Randle played a huge role in playoff wins over the Lakers and Warriors last month, and his situation is complicated by a player option that he holds on his contract for next season.

Parting with Gobert would be difficult given how important he is to Minnesota’s defense, so it is unclear if the Wolves would be willing to do that to land Durant, especially if the All-Star is coming unwillingly. Needing to address his contract is another complicating factor considering the Wolves traded Karl-Anthony Towns to the New York Knicks in the offseason to help balance their bloated cap sheet. They put together a deeper team that will dip below the second apron at the start of the new league year in July, so the Wolves would have to think long and hard about sacrificing some of the financial flexibility gained in that trade.

Ok now I'm starting to think KD to Toronto might happen, if the TWolves don't wanna swing on KD if he doesn't wanna be there.

I think the reports today about the raps including #9 is to try to force Masai to include #9.

If the raps had offered #9, KD would be a toronto raptor.
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Post#358 » by mdenny » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:21 am

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Man I hope this won't end up being a Hakeem situation if he comes over.

Did you get to watch him play when he got here? I was way to young. What was the thought process of getting him to the Raptors at that age.


I remember it and it was just as inane at the time. The Raptors gm was quoted "if Hakeem ever dresses for us that would be a bonus" or something to that effect. So the trade was made assuming he wouldn't.

I remember reading that quote in the paper and saying "so the only significant piece we got back isn't even gonna play for us"? It was so so bad. Dark days.
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Post#359 » by mdenny » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:25 am

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pilkoids wrote:I'm confused as to what our plan at Center would be should this trade go through

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There is no plan. We just wasted a year of the current core to halftank the season and get wacked by the lottery gods.

If they trade for KD, i dont see the Raptors going anywhere.

My hope is simply they are making a lot smoke to hide the real target - which very well could be Giannis.


lol what would be the point of that? As if Masai hiding his interest in Giannis would help in any way.


They need to stall until we're closer to the draft to trade scotty for giannis so that his new salary counts in matching.

We are trading scotty, #9, prospects and picks for giannis. Book it lol

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We can tinker 20 games into the season and at the deadline. Possibly package poetl + RJ for a stretch 5 and slot in Ochai at shooting guard.
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Post#360 » by Pointgod » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:25 am

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Suns are probably trying to see if they could get better offers and balance sending KD to one of his preferred destinations.











Ok now I'm starting to think KD to Toronto might happen, if the TWolves don't wanna swing on KD if he doesn't wanna be there.

I think the reports today about the raps including #9 is to try to force Masai to include #9.

If the raps had offered #9, KD would be a toronto raptor.

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