2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[isyed]

Only way i can think off singing Kwahi is if the Clippers agree to receive Gary Trent Junior. Assuming Kwahi doesn't want to resign and threaten to outright sing with someone like Mavs or Heat will force Clippers to make the deal an get some value back.

Kawhi S&T for GTJ(Rights) + Boucher + Baynes + Hood(re-negotiate to extend his decline date) + a couple 1st rounders (Lotto protected) picks + Flynn

Clippers get GTJ who they can extend ,Flynn, a couple picks and Boucher. They can waive Baynes and Hood to save money.

We get to resign Lowry , use the MLE for maybe Iabaka and BAE for Birch. Keep our top pick and maybe get someone like Green.

FVV/Second Rounders
Lowry/Green
OG/Watson
Kwahi/Yuta
Siakam/Ibaka/Birch

Maybe bring back Gasol and Green on Ver Min to bring back the old crew.

[DreamTeam09]

Bulls fan here... I think Boucher would be a good fit next to Vucevic. Thoughts?

Chicago Receives:
Chris Boucher & Rodney Hood

Toronto Receives:
Lauri Markkanen

I kinda feel like they do the same thing and the only reason why Lauri would be considered better is because he's younger so ppl will attach the potential label next to him. I think Boucher is the better player for the next 2 seasons at least.

I'd decline simply because Boucher is the better defender. They both can't stay on the court in certain situations, but I think Boucher can be more versatile on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't mind having both on our team tho.

[TorontoRapsFan]

Trade FVV and Baynes for Wiggins and number 14 or number 6, or whatever it drops to if you can
Resign Lowry (can trade mid season if other players have stepped up)
Sign Nerlens Noel and Birch with non tax payer MLE
Re-sign GTJ

go into season with a 10 man rotation of Lowry, Wiggins, OG, Siakam, Noel --GTJ, Boucher, Flynn, Birch, which ever draft pick is ready for rotation. Fill out roster with other pick, Bembry & watanabe. G league Harris, and the two 2nd rounders.

Almost all players are fairly trade friendly, and can be replaced by a bench player who is ready for bigger role if trades happen for future assets or 2 for 1 player type

(yes it's possible for Flynn to be ready to start by mid season next year.)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

No world where we trade FVV with the goal of Lowry being our pg for the next couple of years. Lowry would only be back on a trade friendly contract. We are not in position to win the championship and should be looking to build a new young core or gather picks

[mdenny]

No world where we trade FVV with the goal of Lowry being our pg for the next couple of years. Lowry would only be back on a trade friendly contract. We are not in position to win the championship and should be looking to build a new young core or gather picks

These FVV trade suggestions are nuts. We're not trading the most clutch performer in the league no matter what the return

[TorontoRapsFan]

No world where we trade FVV with the goal of Lowry being our pg for the next couple of years. Lowry would only be back on a trade friendly contract. We are not in position to win the championship and should be looking to build a new young core or gather picks

My last sentence talks about Flynn possibly being ready to start mid season. How do you get the trade being about Lowry?

Personally I look to trade FVV cause' as good as he has been he is still probably the starter with the worst shooting percentage in the league (I don;t want to argue about him here). He's still great defender, intangibles, and decent long range shooter. So maybe he gets you a good return in a supposed guard heavy deep draft with multiple teams who have multiple 1st round picks.

You get more players to build while maintaining a playoff roster, have a decent stop gap with Lowry, and already have OG and GTJ with the potential to become more of an offensive threat, and Flynn showing he just might be starting caliber sometime in the next few years. And I specifically said players are on trade friendly terms. That includes GTJ and Lowry, and even Wiggins if you add one of the rookie contracts if you're consolidating for an upgrade player. Point is right now it might be possible that the Raps are actually looking like they can afford to trade one of their established starters. Ideally it's not OG, and Siakam's value might be too low right now.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

No world where we trade FVV with the goal of Lowry being our pg for the next couple of years. Lowry would only be back on a trade friendly contract. We are not in position to win the championship and should be looking to build a new young core or gather picks

My last sentence talks about Flynn possibly being ready to start mid season. How do you get the trade being about Lowry?

Personally I look to trade FVV cause' as good as he has been he is still probably the starter with the worst shooting percentage in the league (I don;t want to argue about him here). He's still great defender, intangibles, and decent long range shooter. So maybe he gets you a good return in a supposed guard heavy deep draft with multiple teams who have multiple 1st round picks.

You get more players to build while maintaining a playoff roster, have a decent stop gap with Lowry, and already have OG and GTJ with the potential to become more of an offensive threat, and Flynn showing he just might be starting caliber sometime in the next few years. And I specifically said players are on trade friendly terms. That includes GTJ and Lowry, and even Wiggins if you add one of the rookie contracts if you're consolidating for an upgrade player. Point is right now it might be possible that the Raps are actually looking like they can afford to trade one of their established starters. Ideally it's not OG, and Siakam's value might be too low right now.

If we’re trading FVV we might as well trade Pascal and I think the Warriors would be happy to move the 6th pick and Wiseman for him and Boucher. Also look to move Lowry to LA for THT and their pick and draft 20

Giving the keys to Flynn to run our offense for more than 18 minutes means we have given up on winning for that season lol. Might as well fully blow it up then.

[gobullschi]

Bulls fan here... I think Boucher would be a good fit next to Vucevic. Thoughts?

Chicago Receives:
Chris Boucher & Rodney Hood

Toronto Receives:
Lauri Markkanen

I kinda feel like they do the same thing and the only reason why Lauri would be considered better is because he's younger so ppl will attach the potential label next to him. I think Boucher is the better player for the next 2 seasons at least.

I'd decline simply because Boucher is the better defender. They both can't stay on the court in certain situations, but I think Boucher can be more versatile on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't mind having both on our team tho.

Is there anything Chicago can offer that you think is fair? I just love Boucher's fit next to Vucevic.

[Mattatron]

Only way i can think off singing Kwahi is if the Clippers agree to receive Gary Trent Junior. Assuming Kwahi doesn't want to resign and threaten to outright sing with someone like Mavs or Heat will force Clippers to make the deal an get some value back.

Kawhi S&T for GTJ(Rights) + Boucher + Baynes + Hood(re-negotiate to extend his decline date) + a couple 1st rounders (Lotto protected) picks + Flynn

Clippers get GTJ who they can extend ,Flynn, a couple picks and Boucher. They can waive Baynes and Hood to save money.

We get to resign Lowry , use the MLE for maybe Iabaka and BAE for Birch. Keep our top pick and maybe get someone like Green.

FVV/Second Rounders
Lowry/Green
OG/Watson
Kwahi/Yuta
Siakam/Ibaka/Birch

Maybe bring back Gasol and Green on Ver Min to bring back the old crew.

My eyes bleedin' reading this, dawg

[Federalies]

Good morning all, what’s the consensus on considering Bobby Portis as a relatively low cost option at C?

He has a $3.8 mil player option with the bucks but after posting 11.4 ppg, 7.1 rpg, while shooting a ridiculous 47% on 3 pointers (yes, I had to double check that) and 74% from the line, all on less than 21 minutes per game, I’m assuming he’ll turn that option down. Bobby is 6’ 11” with a 7’1.5” wingspan and is now tipping the scale at 250 lbs. perhaps we can split the MLE with Kehm and have them battle it out for starters minutes? At 26 I believe he’s still mobile enough to play some 4 in a jumbo lineup! Thoughts?

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[tecumseh18]

Good morning all, what’s the consensus on considering Bobby Portis as a relatively low cost option at C?

He has a $3.8 mil player option with the bucks but after posting 11.4 ppg, 7.1 rpg, while shooting a ridiculous 47% on 3 pointers (yes, I had to double check that) and 74% from the line, all on less than 21 minutes per game, I’m assuming he’ll turn that option down. Bobby is 6’ 11” with a 7’1.5” wingspan and is now tipping the scale at 250 lbs. perhaps we can split the MLE with Kehm and have them battle it out for starters minutes? I believe he’s still mobile enough to play some 4 in a jumbo lineup! Thoughts?

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Hah, Portis' eyes are so crazy you can't tell if that thumbnail is a real pic or a screen grab from NBA2021.

I've mentioned Portis a few times in this thread. As you say, the 3-pt shooting is crazy. I'd like to start him, park him behind the arc and tell him to empty the clip. Defence has usually been an issue with Portis, but he seems better now. Bucks don't have his Bird rights and are in the tax, so our non-taxpayer MLE should be enough.

Which raises the issue of how the hell we pay Birch? I'd like to bring him back as a bench C, but I don't think the BAE ($3.8 mill) will be enough. The only option would be to let Kyle walk and sign Portis - or Kelly O. or Theis - with cap space. That would allow us to slightly outbid other teams offering only the full MLE, and then sign Birch with the room exception of $4.7 mill (or cap space if that's not enough).

[hyper316]

Sign me up for Bobby Portis

[Ell Curry]

Hah, Portis' eyes are so crazy you can't tell if that thumbnail is a real pic or a screen grab from NBA2021.

I've mentioned Portis a few times in this thread. As you say, the 3-pt shooting is crazy. I'd like to start him, park him behind the arc and tell him to empty the clip. Defence has usually been an issue with Portis, but he seems better now. Bucks don't have his Bird rights and are in the tax, so our non-taxpayer MLE should be enough.

Which raises the issue of how the hell we pay Birch? I'd like to bring him back as a bench C, but I don't think the BAE ($3.8 mill) will be enough. The only option would be to let Kyle walk and sign Portis - or Kelly O. or Theis - with cap space. That would allow us to slightly outbid other teams offering only the full MLE, and then sign Birch with the room exception of $4.7 mill (or cap space if that's not enough).

Birch seems like the kind of guy who might not get the offers he should. 28, so not much upside. Not a 3 pt shooter or the kind of big body that contenders might want one of their 2 centers to be to deal with Embiid in the East or Jokic in the West. He'd be a big upgrade for a team like Golden State or Charlotte, but they might have other plans in mind. Campazzo got a 2 year deal for the BAE. Maybe Khem would take 7.6M over 2 years with us?

[hyper316]

Let Lowry go in FA
Some cap to sign Portis
MLE birch
Extend GTJ
Draft pick

FVV/Flynn
GTJ/Harris
OG/Watson
Siakam/Boucher/Watanabe
Portis/Birch/Gillespie

[Saul Goodman]

I really want to sell high on Boucher. Love the guy but his timeline is a bit off from ours. He can be a key piece for a team with title hopes. I see quite a few options out there.


To Boston:
Boucher



To Toronto
Thompson
#16





To golden state
Boucher
Memphis 2nd


To Toronto
Looney
#14




To New York
Boucher


To Toronto
Kevin Knox
#19





To Phoenix
Boucher



To Toronto
Jalen Smith

[WeTheNorth123]

Let me ask you guys a simple question....

This time last year (1 year ago) Cede Cunningham was playing in high school and he was ranked the best player in the country (Rightfully so)

Today Alperen Sengun is the same age Cede was 1 year ago while cede was in high school. Alperen Sengun today is putting up over 19ppg in a league with former nba players (sam dekker, amile jefferson, thomas robinson, johnny obryant, and kyle oquinn etc)

if Sengun was playing in US high school right now like Cede was at his age, how much would he dominate and would his production be better than Cede or any other high school player in the last 5 years?

alternatively, if you reduced 1 year from Cede (took him back to last year of high school/18) and put him in the Besiktas team, would cede be able to produce the numbers Alperen is producing?

[WeTheNorth123]

I really want to sell high on Boucher. Love the guy but his timeline is a bit off from ours. He can be a key piece for a team with title hopes. I see quite a few options out there.


To Boston:
Boucher



To Toronto
Thompson
#16





To golden state
Boucher
Memphis 2nd


To Toronto
Looney
#14




To New York
Boucher


To Toronto
Kevin Knox
#19





To Phoenix
Boucher



To Toronto
Jalen Smith

unfortunately, none of those teams would do it except perhaps PHX

[douggood]

I really want to sell high on Boucher. Love the guy but his timeline is a bit off from ours. He can be a key piece for a team with title hopes. I see quite a few options out there.


To Boston:
Boucher



To Toronto
Thompson
#16





To golden state
Boucher
Memphis 2nd


To Toronto
Looney
#14




To New York
Boucher


To Toronto
Kevin Knox
#19





To Phoenix
Boucher



To Toronto
Jalen Smith

Reassess the market. Last off-season 6th man of the year Dennis Schroeder was traded for 28th pick (and Danny green).

[Federalies]

Let Lowry go in FA
Some cap to sign Portis
MLE birch
Extend GTJ
Draft pick

FVV/Flynn
GTJ/Harris
OG/Watson
Siakam/Boucher/Watanabe
Portis/Birch/Gillespie

I’d be down for this with a few tweaks!

First off, I’d look to sign and trade Lowry. I have to assume letting him sit and not risk injury at the end of the season was partially a wink wink let’s keep your health and value high and we’ll work to find a sign and trade that’s beneficial to all. So I’m hoping for one “decent” but likely flawed prospect, expiring filler and a low end first rounder (I.e. Lowery agrees to 3 yr deal at $20-25 per with the final year being a team option, goes to win now capped out team like Philly (or the Heat/Lakers) for George Hill, Danny Green, Thybulle and a pick (hopefully a late first rounder but a high second could do).

We split the MLE (approximately $9.25 mil) between Portis and Kehm (say $5.25 mil for Portis and $4 mil for Kehm). Next we draft Cade, I mean draft BPA post lottery and follow the rest of your plan.

Extend GTJ

FVV/Flynn
GTJ or pick(Cade-Green-Suggs-Keon-Moody)/Harris
OG/Watanabe or pick (Barnes-Jalen Johnson)
Siakam/Boucher
Portis/Birch/Gillespie (unless we pick Mobley)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Let me ask you guys a simple question....

This time last year (1 year ago) Cede Cunningham was playing in high school and he was ranked the best player in the country (Rightfully so)

Today Alperen Sengun is the same age Cede was 1 year ago while cede was in high school. Alperen Sengun today is putting up over 19ppg in a league with former nba players (sam dekker, amile jefferson, thomas robinson, johnny obryant, and kyle oquinn etc)

if Sengun was playing in US high school right now like Cede was at his age, how much would he dominate and would his production be better than Cede or any other high school player in the last 5 years?

alternatively, if you reduced 1 year from Cede (took him back to last year of high school/18) and put him in the Besiktas team, would cede be able to produce the numbers Alperen is producing?

Unless I was confident that he was the next Embiid I would still pass on him. Mobley is a top prospect because of his AD level defense while having the scoring and ball handling and passing. Sengun isn’t a sure fire defensive threat and can’t shoot at the moment so any team that drafts him better have 4 other guys that can space the floor (we don’t, Siakam would have a tough time driving with Sengun standing in the dunker spot the whole game unless he wants to stand on the perimeter as a non threat)

For what we need at the C position it would be a waste to get him at 7-8 just for him to be a PnR rim runner when we could move Boucher for a mid first and get Garuba or Isaiah etc