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With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche

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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#361 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 8:24 pm

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PushDaRock wrote:Assuming we could have gotten him as a UDFA, signing a 2 way would have made drafting him pointless and a waste of 1m.


Really? Gonna bitch about a 57th pick?


I mean it's kinda cool to hear your name announced & actually being drafted
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Post#362 » by Jcity08 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:59 am

gbball wrote:Interesting video showing some Chomche's personality with his peers. Totally different demeanor than in the interviews I've seen.

Definitely a different mentality than Bruno though.



I like his personality, I hope his game develops nicely, would love an energy big off the bench, something that we've been missing.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#363 » by Fansince95 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 7:28 am

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gbball wrote:Interesting video showing some Chomche's personality with his peers. Totally different demeanor than in the interviews I've seen.

Definitely a different mentality than Bruno though.



I like his personality, I hope his game develops nicely, would love an energy big off the bench, something that we've been missing.

It's def a plus. To have that confidence at his age with his peers and ppl older than him is def something all the stars have. In another video he talked about wanting to kill everyone on the court, ur not his friend when he plays against you.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#364 » by Mark_83 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 5:32 pm

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kalel123 wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:Assuming we could have gotten him as a UDFA, signing a 2 way would have made drafting him pointless and a waste of 1m.


Really? Gonna bitch about a 57th pick?


I mean it's kinda cool to hear your name announced & actually being drafted

Drafting gives us more flexibility as we have his rights and don't have to compete with other teams for his services. It gives us the option to stash him if we want and sign him later, which UDFA would not.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#365 » by PushDaRock » Sat Jul 6, 2024 5:38 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:
kalel123 wrote:
Really? Gonna bitch about a 57th pick?


I mean it's kinda cool to hear your name announced & actually being drafted

Drafting gives us more flexibility as we have his rights and don't have to compete with other teams for his services. It gives us the option to stash him if we want and sign him later, which UDFA would not.


Pretty much which is why a 2 way doesn't make too much sense to me. I assumed they drafted him to get his rights.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#366 » by HangTime » Sat Jul 6, 2024 6:20 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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DreamTeam09 wrote:
I mean it's kinda cool to hear your name announced & actually being drafted

Drafting gives us more flexibility as we have his rights and don't have to compete with other teams for his services. It gives us the option to stash him if we want and sign him later, which UDFA would not.


Pretty much which is why a 2 way doesn't make too much sense to me. I assumed they drafted him to get his rights.


I think we can manipulate "service time" with the two way contract.

So, you sign him to 2 year, 2 way contract.

Let's say he's not ready to play at the NBA level, at all, in those first 2 years.

We keep with the 905, but let him practice withe Raptors when the opportunity arises. Maybe allow him to travel with the team as an "extra" person. Let him attend the the games, and sit behind the bench with the secondary coaches, and have him absorb game info that way.

He'd get valuable playing time, and chance to play with Ja'Kobe, Mogbo, Shead, and anyone that might a 905 assignment.

Then in 2026-27, you sign him to a standard 3-4 year, rookie deal.


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I feel like High school players should be allowed to enter the draft, but have a 1 year "G-league" clause built into their contract.
This way he can do everything with the team parent club, but play the games.

So the idea with Chomche, would be an extreme variation of this.
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#368 » by YelloC » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:24 am

Chomche has some Serge in his game who would be a good player to model his game after.
His lateral movement on D and ability to get up quickly looks special.
I’m going to be watching all the 905 games this year and might even try to catch a few live.
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Post#369 » by mademan » Sun Jul 7, 2024 4:55 pm

Man is a genuine athletic freak. If he's got a work ethic, there's no reason he wont be a rotation player in this league and the sky really is the limit for him. His size/length combined with his speed is special
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#370 » by gbball » Sun Jul 7, 2024 5:09 pm

mademan wrote:Man is a genuine athletic freak. If he's got a work ethic, there's no reason he wont be a rotation player in this league and the sky really is the limit for him. His size/length combined with his speed is special


Exactly, based on his speed and coordination, you'd think he's like 6'8, not close to 7ft. He's also seems really tenacious, so he'll make full use of his abilities.
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Post#371 » by T-d0t » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:16 pm

Is he playing in SL?
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Post#372 » by Thaddy » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:16 pm

T-d0t wrote:Is he playing in SL?

Yes
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Post#373 » by PushDaRock » Sun Jul 7, 2024 7:25 pm

It's odd that we still don't know what kind of contract he's signing.
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Post#374 » by mihaic » Mon Jul 8, 2024 5:31 am

PushDaRock wrote:It's odd that we still don't know what kind of contract he's signing.

It's still possible they stash him for a year, RIGHT? Perhaps they will decide after SL?
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Post#375 » by WetLikeWater » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:52 am

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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#376 » by MavCarter » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:09 pm

mihaic wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:It's odd that we still don't know what kind of contract he's signing.

It's still possible they stash him for a year, RIGHT? Perhaps they will decide after SL?



Have the raptors stashed anyone since the birth of the 905? The last player i can even remember being stashed is deandre daniels
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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#377 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jul 8, 2024 1:46 pm

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mihaic wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:It's odd that we still don't know what kind of contract he's signing.

It's still possible they stash him for a year, RIGHT? Perhaps they will decide after SL?



Have the raptors stashed anyone since the birth of the 905? The last player i can even remember being stashed is deandre daniels


we haven't had 4 rookies drafted in 1 year either for a long time (if ever? i cant recall)
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Post#378 » by ConSarnit » Mon Jul 8, 2024 5:22 pm

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mihaic wrote:It's still possible they stash him for a year, RIGHT? Perhaps they will decide after SL?



Have the raptors stashed anyone since the birth of the 905? The last player i can even remember being stashed is deandre daniels


we haven't had 4 rookies drafted in 1 year either for a long time (if ever? i cant recall)


I’m of the mindset that we shouldn’t be stashing players. If we believe in our development system we should be trying to get our guys in the door as soon as possible. Why leave it up to chance to let someone else mess up his development? Surely time in a real NBA development system has to be worth more in speeding up the process. What’s the point of investing heavily in the G-league if it’s not to develop these types of players? I guess the counter could be that maybe we try and direct him to a Euro team whose development system we trust but I’m not sure if that’s how the process really works.
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Post#379 » by Stromile12 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 5:38 pm

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Re: With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche 

Post#380 » by grant101 » Mon Jul 8, 2024 6:00 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
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Have the raptors stashed anyone since the birth of the 905? The last player i can even remember being stashed is deandre daniels


we haven't had 4 rookies drafted in 1 year either for a long time (if ever? i cant recall)


I’m of the mindset that we shouldn’t be stashing players. If we believe in our development system we should be trying to get our guys in the door as soon as possible. Why leave it up to chance to let someone else mess up his development? Surely time in a real NBA development system has to be worth more in speeding up the process. What’s the point of investing heavily in the G-league if it’s not to develop these types of players? I guess the counter could be that maybe we try and direct him to a Euro team whose development system we trust but I’m not sure if that’s how the process really works.


I agree with this in general, but Chomche is a special case, and is (IMO) just so ridiculously far from contributing. He needs to learn the game. Even with a year or two abroad, he's going to need development time. If you can send him somewhere you trust for a year of seasoning and physical maturity, you can treat next year as a true "first year." He's still so young, that he'll be the same age as most rookies next year.

If they're REALLY serious about it, maybe they assign someone from your staff to keep close tabs on him like we did with Jonas. And, if we are indeed planning to commit all these resources to help the kid develop, it makes sense if you can delay the clock starting on his first contract. Otherwise, the chances of getting any kind of production from him on his rookie contract are near zero.

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