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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#361 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:49 am

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TNRaps4life wrote:https://youtu.be/IDuS0XJiBnY?si=3fmGny8zbtpOgmJM


That might be the most difficult 39 I've ever seen someone score before. Literally nothing was easy, it's crazy how little space he creates for himself, there's always a defender contesting every shot he takes. Impressive in one sense that he is making that many difficult shots in a single game and concerning in another.


Nothing concerning... it will be easier in the nba


lol what? He can't create space against college players but it will be easier to shoot over NBA defenders?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#362 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:55 am

PushDaRock wrote:Isn't that MPJ basically?


Honestly, not too familiar with MPJ's game, but MPJ has been hovering around 18-19 PPG, same as GTJr's peak. I would think Bailey exceeds that.

GTJr at his best seemed a bit more explosive, had three 40+ games, MPJ none. GTJr also has a few on-ball moves that end up in tough jumpers, like Bailey (although GTJr's not good at it), not sure if that's in MPJ's repertoire.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#363 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:55 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Ace with an incredible 39 point performance and people here are comparing him to Gary Trent Jr

LMAO ignorant pinheads. :lol:


GTJr literally had multiple 40 point games in the NBA. A 6'10 GTJr allowing him to have better shooting consistency and a physical advantage over his defenders is a perennial all-star. Imagine this, but every game:


GTJ has very limited shot creation abilities. Again, the comp doesn't make much sense.
MPJ makes a lot more sense as a comparison. But I'd consider that to be the floor for Ace.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#364 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:57 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Ace with an incredible 39 point performance and people here are comparing him to Gary Trent Jr

LMAO ignorant pinheads. :lol:


GTJr literally had multiple 40 point games in the NBA. A 6'10 GTJr allowing him to have better shooting consistency and a physical advantage over his defenders is a perennial all-star. Imagine this, but every game:


GTJ has very limited shot creation abilities. Again, the comp doesn't make much sense.
MPJ makes a lot more sense as a comparison. But I'd consider that to be the floor for Ace.

And what's his ceiling?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#365 » by 720 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:03 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#366 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:05 am

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GTJr literally had multiple 40 point games in the NBA. A 6'10 GTJr allowing him to have better shooting consistency and a physical advantage over his defenders is a perennial all-star. Imagine this, but every game:


GTJ has very limited shot creation abilities. Again, the comp doesn't make much sense.
MPJ makes a lot more sense as a comparison. But I'd consider that to be the floor for Ace.

And what's his ceiling?


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#367 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:07 am

TNRaps4life wrote:How many players are better than MPJ in your team?


Bailey ending up like MPJ would be a disappointment. From the limited highlights, I don't see MPJ having the ability to consistently hit contested shots off the bounce like Ace.

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Ace with an incredible 39 point performance and people here are comparing him to Gary Trent Jr

LMAO ignorant pinheads. :lol:


GTJr literally had multiple 40 point games in the NBA. A 6'10 GTJr allowing him to have better shooting consistency and a physical advantage over his defenders is a perennial all-star. Imagine this, but every game:


GTJ has very limited shot creation abilities. Again, the comp doesn't make much sense.
MPJ makes a lot more sense as a comparison. But I'd consider that to be the floor for Ace.


GTJr had trouble creating separation and could only occasionally hit those contested jumpers. Whereas Bailey has trouble creating separation, but can hit those jumpers. They also both are trigger happy. That's about where the comparisons end. Also, just trolling TNRaps4life with this comparison, so don't take it too seriously.

From MPJ highlights, it looks like he's mostly used off ball - a lot of catch/drive, catch/shoot, catch/one dribble/shoot, cuts. I've yet to see a classic "Bailey turn around contested fadeaway" shot.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#368 » by Jstock12 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:08 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#369 » by junot111 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:08 am

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TNRaps4life wrote:https://youtu.be/IDuS0XJiBnY?si=3fmGny8zbtpOgmJM


That might be the most difficult 39 I've ever seen someone score before. Literally nothing was easy, it's crazy how little space he creates for himself, there's always a defender contesting every shot he takes. Impressive in one sense that he is making that many difficult shots in a single game and concerning in another.

Tall GTJ looks spot on. Mediocre ball handling, can't go left, can't pass, and can't create separation. Scores off difficult shots. Obviously his size will allow him to fare better than GTJ but he has a long way to go to become an all around contributor
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#370 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:08 am

I have no doubts we're drafting Ace if he's on the board for us. So I'm just patiently waiting to see where the chips fall.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#371 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:14 am

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Great game for him tonight and he'll be a riser in my next mock.

But there's nothing "wild" about this assist.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#372 » by Jstock12 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:18 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#373 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:26 am

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PushDaRock wrote:Isn't that MPJ basically?


Honestly, not too familiar with MPJ's game, but MPJ has been hovering around 18-19 PPG, same as GTJr's peak. I would think Bailey exceeds that.

GTJr at his best seemed a bit more explosive, had three 40+ games, MPJ none. GTJr also has a few on-ball moves that end up in tough jumpers, like Bailey (although GTJr's not good at it), not sure if that's in MPJ's repertoire.

GTJr 3.8 assists in HS
Bailey 3.9 assists in HS
MPJ 5 assists in HS


MPJ is a career 60 eFG% and 62 TS%, that's extremely elite especially for a guy that doesn't get to the line much. I would doubt Bailey is ever going to score at that level of efficiency. He might score more though but that will depend on the situation he's in. MPJ has never played on a bad team so never got to a chance to stat pad.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#374 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:36 am

The truth is that you don't want a guy like Bailey being the star player of your team. Within the context of a winning team he's a guy who you'd ideally have as a 3rd or 4th option. He can be a good and valuable player in the right situation, but if you're hoping he's going to be a guy who can be your #1 option on a championship team, I think you're fooling yourself.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#375 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:43 am

junot111 wrote:
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TNRaps4life wrote:https://youtu.be/IDuS0XJiBnY?si=3fmGny8zbtpOgmJM


That might be the most difficult 39 I've ever seen someone score before. Literally nothing was easy, it's crazy how little space he creates for himself, there's always a defender contesting every shot he takes. Impressive in one sense that he is making that many difficult shots in a single game and concerning in another.

Tall GTJ looks spot on. Mediocre ball handling, can't go left, can't pass, and can't create separation. Scores off difficult shots. Obviously his size will allow him to fare better than GTJ but he has a long way to go to become an all around contributor


His success in the NBA seems entirely reliant on how good of a shooter he becomes, right now he's still a mediocre one.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#376 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:49 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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LoveMyRaps wrote:Ace with an incredible 39 point performance and people here are comparing him to Gary Trent Jr

LMAO ignorant pinheads. :lol:


GTJr literally had multiple 40 point games in the NBA. A 6'10 GTJr allowing him to have better shooting consistency and a physical advantage over his defenders is a perennial all-star. Imagine this, but every game:


GTJ has very limited shot creation abilities. Again, the comp doesn't make much sense.
MPJ makes a lot more sense as a comparison. But I'd consider that to be the floor for Ace.


That's an extremely high floor if you expect him to be a 60 eFG% guy in the league which I don't.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#377 » by 720 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:56 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#378 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 6:02 am



Pure Bucket getter....Prolly one of the best scorers in the class....Hes got lots of haters to prove wrong...But the more he gets comfy in college im sure we will see more games like this...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#379 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 7:51 am

39 points on 55% as the only option on the floor and people still tryna discredit his skill lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#380 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:10 am

Bailey is a pure scorer. The fact he's scoring tough buckets is a positive, not negative. He'll get easier shots in NBA. It's fine if 1 of your 5 players on the court has a score first mentality as long as he's good at it, especially at that size. No opinion on his defense yet.
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