If the draft is rigged...

[billy_hoyle]

The number 1 came up multiple times for specific teams over several drafts. The poster thinks that is suspicious and suggestive of fixing. Ignoring the bad statistical math, it doesn't even make sense why they would rig it for one specific number to show up more often

Nice strawman. They’re not rigging it for one number nor did I ever say that. The potential reasoning why it occurs is another subject. Yogurt also has no clue what we’re talking about nor did you explain it to him.

Calculating for a specific number showing up multiple times vs an arbitrary number showing up multiple times has different implications on the probability.

Example, if in one draft, you get:
1 2 3 4
1 5 6 7
1 8 9 10

And in another draft you get:
3 2 4 5
3 6 7 8
3 9 10 11

Then the probability that this occurs in consecutive drafts is not THAT small, because it’s two arbitrary numbers, 1 and 3.

For the first three draws, actual results show:
2017
1 7 9 10
1 2 6 10
1 2 8 9

2018
1 6 9 12
1 3 11 13
1 4 5 12

2021
1 5 11 13
1 2 3 10
1 6 7 11

2022
1 6 13 14
2 7 9 14
1 3 6 12
1 2 10 12

Is it an arbitrary number that is repeating itself, or a specific number?

If you guys don’t think this yields a low probability, then you guys provide the odds. Give me a number or stop shilling. Even you consider it as arbitrary, give me the odds.

This is also not the only oddity. There are around 4-5.

A second oddity is having three repeats for three different arbitrary numbers within the same draft. Calculate the probability, what are the odds?

Where did you even get this ping pong ball number per team data? Can you post the link for all historical ones?

Ya. Where is this data?

Combinations per team, and results?

[RoteSchroder]

Where did you even get this ping pong ball number per team data? Can you post the link for all historical ones?

YouTube “NBA draft lotto [year] State Farm”

“State Farm” makes it easier to find

Would be nice for someone to double check the numbers. Hope I didn’t have a head fart and write down the numbers wrong (also doing it on my phone, easy to be prone to mistakes).

[YogurtProducer]

What are you even going off about here about the #1 coming up?

LIke legitimately I must have missed something here.

The number 1 came up multiple times for specific teams over several drafts. The poster thinks that is suspicious and suggestive of fixing. Ignoring the bad statistical math, it doesn't even make sense why they would rig it for one specific number to show up more often

Nice strawman. They’re not rigging it for one number nor did I ever say that. The potential reasoning why it occurs is another subject. Yogurt also has no clue what we’re talking about nor did you explain it to him.

Calculating for a specific number showing up multiple times vs an arbitrary number showing up multiple times has different implications on the probability.

Example, if in one draft, you get:
1 2 3 4
1 5 6 7
1 8 9 10

And in another draft you get:
3 2 4 5
3 6 7 8
3 9 10 11

Then the probability that this occurs in consecutive drafts is not THAT small, because it’s two arbitrary numbers, 1 and 3.

For the first three draws, actual results show:
2017
1 7 9 10
1 2 6 10
1 2 8 9

2018
1 6 9 12
1 3 11 13
1 4 5 12

2021
1 5 11 13
1 2 3 10
1 6 7 11

2022
1 6 13 14
2 7 9 14
1 3 6 12
1 2 10 12

Is it an arbitrary number that is repeating itself, or a specific number?

If you guys don’t think this yields a low probability, then you guys provide the odds. Give me a number or stop shilling. Even you consider it as arbitrary, give me the odds.

This is also not the only oddity. There are around 4-5.

A second oddity is having three repeats for three different arbitrary numbers within the same draft. Calculate the probability, what are the odds?

So you cherry pick 3 years and are using that as proof..?

There is a 28% chance a 1 will pop up in a 4 # combination. I am not going to act like I am great here, but by my calcs that means there is a 7% chance of 3 1's popping up if 4 combinations are selected.

That happening 4 times in the last decade, while unlikely, is not some crazy event that is "impossible".

Perfect analogy is that a roulette table any given number has a 2.6% chance of happening. Yet, there are plenty of instances where you will see the same # pop up twice in a row, or 3, 4, or 5 times in a 10-spin range.

Whatever the **** it is you are trying to prove with the 1's popping up is just you trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. For some reason you cherry picked 4 drafts (instead of looking at them all), and are looking at INCREDIBLY small sample to try and conclude something.

Your analysis also ignores when they have to "redo" a pick because there is always the chance that the second lottery drawing could be the same team as the first. So while you posted the 4 winning combinations, there is a chance there was more than 4 draws.

[Raps in 4]

I was just catching up on the Hasan Piker situation, and it made me think of this debate.

Hasan is an American citizen and a prominent leftist commentator and media personality. He was recently detained and questioned about his political beliefs by border agents after he flew into Chicago.

Hasan accused the Trump administration of deliberately targeting him in an attempt to sow fear among dissenters.

The Trump administration released a public statement saying that these types of detentions are entirely random and that Hasan was randomly selected for questioning.

At this point, we could take the word of the Trump administration at face value, because what they say is plausible. Trump did swear an oath to uphold the rule of law, after all. Or, we could take the facts of the situation in context and arrive at the conclusion that the Trump administration is lying.

Everyone who maintains that the NBA lottery isn't rigged should categorically deny Hasan's side of the story here. There is no reason to believe that a democratically elected government would lie about their motivations to detain someone. Targeting individuals for detention would be both morally wrong and illegal (the NBA rigging the draft would only be morally wrong), therefore, it cannot be the case. Suggesting that the government could be doing this would be engaging in conspiratorial thinking.

I hope everyone can see how ridiculous it is to trust the word of unaccountable elites, but I'm not holding my breath. We live in a time when critical thinking is discouraged.

Yep, you are deep into conspiracy territory right now.

At this point he must just think the entire world is a lie.

Sad life to live, I guess.

The term is escaping me now, but people would rather believe that every bad thing that happens in the world is the result of malice and a conspiracy, and doesn't want to believe that some things that happen simply happen and it is what it is. Accepting that the world can just be random and/or bad makes people feel powerless.

1. If a suspicious coincidence occurs, I ask myself, "is a billionnaire and/or politician involved?"
2. If yes, I ask myself "can the billionnaire and/or politician benefit from the coincidence?"
3. If yes, then I conclude that the billionnaire and/or politician has most likely orchestrated the coincidence to benefit themselves.

In a world where the ruling elite are accountable to no one, those elites will do anything and everything in their power to enrich themselves. We have all of human history as evidence of this. It's not a conspiracy. It's reality.

[YogurtProducer]

Yep, you are deep into conspiracy territory right now.

At this point he must just think the entire world is a lie.

Sad life to live, I guess.

The term is escaping me now, but people would rather believe that every bad thing that happens in the world is the result of malice and a conspiracy, and doesn't want to believe that some things that happen simply happen and it is what it is. Accepting that the world can just be random and/or bad makes people feel powerless.

1. If a suspicious coincidence occurs, I ask myself, "is a billionnaire and/or politician involved?"
2. If yes, I ask myself "can the billionnaire and/or politician benefit from the coincidence?"
3. If yes, then I conclude that billionnaire and/or politician has most likely orchestrated the coincidence to benefit themselves.

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

When one lives in a world where the ruling elite are accountable to no one, those elites will do anything and everything in their power to enrich themselves. We have all of human history as evidence of this. It's bot a conspiracy. It's reality.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

[Raps in 4]

At this point he must just think the entire world is a lie.

Sad life to live, I guess.

The term is escaping me now, but people would rather believe that every bad thing that happens in the world is the result of malice and a conspiracy, and doesn't want to believe that some things that happen simply happen and it is what it is. Accepting that the world can just be random and/or bad makes people feel powerless.

1. If a suspicious coincidence occurs, I ask myself, "is a billionnaire and/or politician involved?"
2. If yes, I ask myself "can the billionnaire and/or politician benefit from the coincidence?"
3. If yes, then I conclude that billionnaire and/or politician has most likely orchestrated the coincidence to benefit themselves.

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

When one lives in a world where the ruling elite are accountable to no one, those elites will do anything and everything in their power to enrich themselves. We have all of human history as evidence of this. It's bot a conspiracy. It's reality.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

[MainEvent]

I knew when I started reading this thread it was a mistake lol

[Shakril]

1. If a suspicious coincidence occurs, I ask myself, "is a billionnaire and/or politician involved?"
2. If yes, I ask myself "can the billionnaire and/or politician benefit from the coincidence?"
3. If yes, then I conclude that billionnaire and/or politician has most likely orchestrated the coincidence to benefit themselves.

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

When one lives in a world where the ruling elite are accountable to no one, those elites will do anything and everything in their power to enrich themselves. We have all of human history as evidence of this. It's bot a conspiracy. It's reality.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

At this point i would not be surprised if you are a MAGA person.

[YogurtProducer]

1. If a suspicious coincidence occurs, I ask myself, "is a billionnaire and/or politician involved?"
2. If yes, I ask myself "can the billionnaire and/or politician benefit from the coincidence?"
3. If yes, then I conclude that billionnaire and/or politician has most likely orchestrated the coincidence to benefit themselves.

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

When one lives in a world where the ruling elite are accountable to no one, those elites will do anything and everything in their power to enrich themselves. We have all of human history as evidence of this. It's bot a conspiracy. It's reality.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

[billy_hoyle]

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

At this point i would not be surprised if you are a MAGA person.

What does MAGA (voters that choose nationalistic and fiscally conservative policy) have anything to do with conspiracy theorists about the draft lottery?

[Raps in 4]

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

At this point i would not be surprised if you are a MAGA person.

You're the one who just a few posts up said you don't think Trump is targeting dissenters.

Blind faith in the ruling elite is precisely how MAGA (and every other fascist government ever) came to power.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

I always love how much power people think individual politicians have......They have 100x more checks and balances in government then any corporate type.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

I always love how much power people think individual politicians have......They have 100x more checks and balances in government than any corporate type.

[JB7]

I am not going to act like billionaires or politicians are guilt-free, but what a **** way to live your life.

Be skeptical of whatever you like, but don't just ignore the facts when they are presented to you.

Cool - then why would 13 billionaires willingly tank the value of their own investment to prop up the 14th? You think Washington thinks the Wizards are more valuable drafting Ace Bailey instead of Cooper Flagg?

You don't think one owner over the course of the lottery would have said "**** that" and exposed the entire system? You don't think one journalist would have noticed something "off" with the lottery and questioned it / exposed it? A journalist has a LOT more to gain by exposing a massive conspiracy than they do being complicit. Unless of course, your conspiracy extends to the journalists who are being bribed or something.

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

Team valuations are more about the fact there are only 30 teams in a league sharing billions in TV revenue. When an owner buys into a team, they could care less what players are on that team. They are buying into a very small group of owners to a league with only 30 teams (for now), that as a whole generates massive amounts of revenue through media contracts, and also controls the division of the revenue 50/50 with players. So it is in all owners interest to build the overall revenue of the league (grow their 50%), and the limited access to this league is what helps drive team valuations.

[YogurtProducer]

They aren't tanking their individual investments. They make decisions that benefit the NBA as a whole, which in turn benefits every franchise. Revenue is shared. The Luka trade benefitted every single team by increasing interest in a league that has been struggling with viewership as of late.

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

Team valuations are more about the fact there are only 30 teams in a league sharing billions in TV revenue. When an owner buys into a team, they could care less what players are on that team. They are buying into a very small group of owners to a league with only 30 teams (for now), that as a whole generates massive amounts of revenue through media contracts, and also controls the division of the revenue 50/50 with players. So it is in all owners interest to build the overall revenue of the league (grow their 50%), and the limited access to this league is what helps drive team valuations.

That is really not true. There is a reason why different teams have different valuations, and why when teams are successful the value goes up.

The biggest overall earnings a team will ever experience is when they sell. That is independent to the league as a whole. Playoff revenues also benefit teams. Making the playoffs = more money. That doesn't get split equally among the entire league.

[RoteSchroder]

So you cherry pick 3 years and are using that as proof..?

4 years out of 10 if it's based on 3 repeats. 6 years out of 10 if you consider the 2 repeats out of 4 draws.

There is a 28% chance a 1 will pop up in a 4 # combination. I am not going to act like I am great here, but by my calcs that means there is a 7% chance of 3 1's popping up if 4 combinations are selected.

That happening 4 times in the last decade, while unlikely, is not some crazy event that is "impossible".

Yes, odds of this happening 4 times within 10 years is low (~0.3 to 0.8% depending on the conditions), but certainly within the realm of possibility. That's the starting point, you've completed step one, congrats.

That's not even considering constricting 1 to the first three draws in three out of 10 drafts, which is an oddity that lowers the overall probability from ~0.3% to ~0.07%.. Correct me if this number is incorrect.

STEP 2:
Do the rest. Calculate other anomalies, like clustered/pooled numbers. E.g. only 7 numbers appearing in 4 out of 5 draws for 2017 (e.g. 1.83%), also within the realm of possibility.

Or the odds of the same team being selected three times in a row (e.g. 1.56%), which is also within the realm of possibility.

Ignore any anomalies that don't appear in any other drafts to give a conservative estimate.

STEP 3:
Remove intra-dependencies between the anomalies. Calculate: what are the odds that each draft occurred the way it did?

Then line it up. E.g. What are the odds that draft 1 shows a circumstance of 0.1% odds, draft 2 shows an oddity of 0.05%, draft 3 shows 0.001%, draft 4: 5%, etc.

One 0.07% anomaly over 10 years, while strange and unlikely, is still ok. If there are two independent 0.07% anomalies occurring within 10 years, then we're talking about the 1 in 1+ millions.

Perfect analogy is that a roulette table any given number has a 2.6% chance of happening. Yet, there are plenty of instances where you will see the same # pop up twice in a row, or 3, 4, or 5 times in a 10-spin range.

Bad analogy. The lotto balls, the resulting outcomes and it's implications is much different than roulette. E.g. combinations and sequences of numbers do not tie into outcomes. Each spin is independent. Whereas in the draft, repeated outcomes based on sequences along with statistical anomalies in sequences can tie into a possible underlying mechanism.

You're the one who gave the coin flip analogy and was asking about "wHaT dO yOu mEaN 1's". In other words, you didn't even look at the numbers and your first reaction was to ridicule and come up with nonsensical arguments, very common shill tactics. Hard to take your rebuttals seriously.

Whatever the **** it is you are trying to prove with the 1's popping up is just you trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. For some reason you cherry picked 4 drafts (instead of looking at them all), and are looking at INCREDIBLY small sample to try and conclude something.

I looked at 2015-2025, i.e. what I found online. I'm not making anything pop up, these are the lotto ball results, I cannot control them.

Not trying to conclude anything yet, that seems to be what you are doing. I'm going where the evidence takes me. If the lotto balls didn't display multiple similarly patterned anomalies, then I wouldn't try to be calculating something that doesn't exist. Showing a single 0.5% oddity isn't a big deal and I wouldn't consider it strong evidence, but I do want a ballpark number on the probability of these combined events. An opinion can be formed AFTER that.

Your analysis also ignores when they have to "redo" a pick because there is always the chance that the second lottery drawing could be the same team as the first. So while you posted the 4 winning combinations, there is a chance there was more than 4 draws.

pre-2019 only has three lotto winners. Hard to take your rebuttals seriously when you're showing so much ignorance and haven't looked into it in-depth at all. Which begs the question, why resort to a polemic or agenda-driven response without even looking at the draft or numbers.

I have previously given the numbers for the 4-5 draws in prior drafts and the draft winner for each draw, at least check if I got the numbers and teams correct. Repeat winners has occurred in multiple drafts.

[Tripod]

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

Team valuations are more about the fact there are only 30 teams in a league sharing billions in TV revenue. When an owner buys into a team, they could care less what players are on that team. They are buying into a very small group of owners to a league with only 30 teams (for now), that as a whole generates massive amounts of revenue through media contracts, and also controls the division of the revenue 50/50 with players. So it is in all owners interest to build the overall revenue of the league (grow their 50%), and the limited access to this league is what helps drive team valuations.

That is really not true. There is a reason why different teams have different valuations, and why when teams are successful the value goes up.

The biggest overall earnings a team will ever experience is when they sell. That is independent to the league as a whole. Playoff revenues also benefit teams. Making the playoffs = more money. That doesn't get split equally among the entire league.

Yeah Charlotte is not going to make more money or he worth more of Flagg is known Dallas vs being in Charlotte.

It's silly to believe the team that tanked owners are "in" on the draft results...lol.

[basketballto]

Are you **** kidding?

You cant look at 2 drafts and determine if there is randomness or not. That is like flipping a coin twice, getting tails two times, and concluding the coin is tails on both sides.

**** did our education system fail you guys. My god. This is base level math.

This has happened 5 times in the last 40 years when it should only happen once every 50 years at 2%. The chance this is random is very low. These are the easy to see and verify numbers.

If I rolled a 50 sided dice 40 times and got the number 44 5 times those would be the dice odds.

Man.. go a roulette table and sit there for 38 spins (there are 38 numbers with 0 and 00). I GUARANTEE you don't see every number hit once, and you most likely will see a number get hit 4+ times.

And then when you are done, sign up for a high school math class.

It's time you went to university and took a math class. High school only gets you so far. Here is why:

Chance a specific number (like number one in the draft hits) 1.7%

Chance any number hits 4 times: 66%

Plus we are looking at 1 in 50 chance which changes the calculations to:.

Specific number
0.69%

Any number 4+ more
34.3%

It's possible the odds will flatten over the next 1,000 years but right now things look improbable.

Even that's too high because it's 5.
0.12%
5.88%

Maybe things will even out over the next 10,000 seasons

[JB7]

Revenue is shared to a point. Not all revenue is shared and some teams definitely make more than others.

But team valuations is where the money is made. A team with Cooper Flagg has more value than a team with Jordan Poole. No owner is going to willingly give away that piece. Cooper Flagg going to DAL instead of CHA does not make the NBA more money.

Team valuations are more about the fact there are only 30 teams in a league sharing billions in TV revenue. When an owner buys into a team, they could care less what players are on that team. They are buying into a very small group of owners to a league with only 30 teams (for now), that as a whole generates massive amounts of revenue through media contracts, and also controls the division of the revenue 50/50 with players. So it is in all owners interest to build the overall revenue of the league (grow their 50%), and the limited access to this league is what helps drive team valuations.

That is really not true. There is a reason why different teams have different valuations, and why when teams are successful the value goes up.

The biggest overall earnings a team will ever experience is when they sell. That is independent to the league as a whole. Playoff revenues also benefit teams. Making the playoffs = more money. That doesn't get split equally among the entire league.

Yes, big market teams clearly have more value than small market teams. I'm just saying, players probably don't factor much into that valuation because they come and go. Owners are not paying a lot for an organization because of the player there. They are paying to own 1 of the 30 teams in a prestigious league, and then it depends on market size.

The league creates such a high baseline for team valuations because of the structure that guarantees consistent revenue for every team. 12 of the top 50 teams valuations (according to Forbes), are NBA teams, which is the second most for a league, next to the NFL which has 29 teams on the list.

[NinjaBro]

It's 100% rigged no doubt about it. Can't believe there's so many insane people here who actually thinks the nba is a legit clean company smh.