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OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal

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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#361 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat May 31, 2025 9:07 pm

Tripod wrote:
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Spates wrote:Haliburton was voted most overrated, maybe we need to revisit simple usage of accolades to make points.

And you know what? You're right, he was just fine that season. That captures his impact pretty well. If fine is how you choose to describe his play why are you bothering to reply to me in a thread celebrating his current level of production?

Keep in mind the all-around putrid play-in performance.
Numerous times you attempt to refute me pointing to Pascal's personal accolades while ignoring the team's complete mediocrity. Great lead playmakers help teams punch above their weight class. Pascal was never great in that role, he was fine, adequate...

He's great doing what he's doing with the Pacers. It's the version of Pascal I've been vying for. Stats back up his superior impact.

I don't understand your angle.


32/9/6 on 60%TS and a +6 in a game they lost by 4. Truly an example of an all-round putrid performance.

Certainly wasn't putrid.

But his 5-11 from the FT line was.


Absolutely. But since a lot of players bricked from the line maybe it had something to do with DeMar's daughter screeching. I've never seen that since, so maybe that is really difficult to shoot through?
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#362 » by Spates » Sat May 31, 2025 9:16 pm

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I don't choose who makes the all-star team.

Haliburton was voted most overrated, maybe we need to revisit simple usage of accolades to make points.

And you know what? You're right, he was just fine that season. That captures his impact pretty well. If fine is how you choose to describe his play why are you bothering to reply to me in a thread celebrating his current level of production?

Keep in mind the all-around putrid play-in performance.
Numerous times you attempt to refute me pointing to Pascal's personal accolades while ignoring the team's complete mediocrity. Great lead playmakers help teams punch above their weight class. Pascal was never great in that role, he was fine, adequate...

He's great doing what he's doing with the Pacers. It's the version of Pascal I've been vying for. Stats back up his superior impact.

I don't understand your angle.


32/9/6 on 60%TS and a +6 in a game they lost by 4. Truly an example of an all-round putrid performance.

Good numbers. There's also a litany of good players putting up numbers on bad teams.

It's sort of analogous to Kyrie Irving. As singular talents they don't have the ability to be an offensive focal points. But they're fantastic in the correct roles playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle to a true primary.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#363 » by Spates » Sat May 31, 2025 9:20 pm

Tripod wrote:
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Spates wrote:Haliburton was voted most overrated, maybe we need to revisit simple usage of accolades to make points.

And you know what? You're right, he was just fine that season. That captures his impact pretty well. If fine is how you choose to describe his play why are you bothering to reply to me in a thread celebrating his current level of production?

Keep in mind the all-around putrid play-in performance.
Numerous times you attempt to refute me pointing to Pascal's personal accolades while ignoring the team's complete mediocrity. Great lead playmakers help teams punch above their weight class. Pascal was never great in that role, he was fine, adequate...

He's great doing what he's doing with the Pacers. It's the version of Pascal I've been vying for. Stats back up his superior impact.

I don't understand your angle.


32/9/6 on 60%TS and a +6 in a game they lost by 4. Truly an example of an all-round putrid performance.

Certainly wasn't putrid.

But his 5-11 from the FT line was.

Also, I'm referring to the team's play with him as a focal point. All-world numbers are less impressive when you play with OG, FVV, Jak, and Barnes and you're merely a play-in team.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#364 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat May 31, 2025 9:33 pm

Spates wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Spates wrote:Haliburton was voted most overrated, maybe we need to revisit simple usage of accolades to make points.

And you know what? You're right, he was just fine that season. That captures his impact pretty well. If fine is how you choose to describe his play why are you bothering to reply to me in a thread celebrating his current level of production?

Keep in mind the all-around putrid play-in performance.
Numerous times you attempt to refute me pointing to Pascal's personal accolades while ignoring the team's complete mediocrity. Great lead playmakers help teams punch above their weight class. Pascal was never great in that role, he was fine, adequate...

He's great doing what he's doing with the Pacers. It's the version of Pascal I've been vying for. Stats back up his superior impact.

I don't understand your angle.


32/9/6 on 60%TS and a +6 in a game they lost by 4. Truly an example of an all-round putrid performance.

Good numbers. There's also a litany of good players putting up numbers on bad teams.

It's sort of analogous to Kyrie Irving. As singular talents they don't have the ability to be an offensive focal points. But they're fantastic in the correct roles playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle to a true primary.


Okay, but in this one instance that was not an all-around putrid performance. After the missed free throws the worst thing he did was rest for 5 minutes.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#365 » by Spates » Sat May 31, 2025 10:48 pm

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32/9/6 on 60%TS and a +6 in a game they lost by 4. Truly an example of an all-round putrid performance.

Good numbers. There's also a litany of good players putting up numbers on bad teams.

It's sort of analogous to Kyrie Irving. As singular talents they don't have the ability to be an offensive focal points. But they're fantastic in the correct roles playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle to a true primary.


Okay, but in this one instance that was not an all-around putrid performance. After the missed free throws the worst thing he did was rest for 5 minutes.

Ease up with the strawman arguments.

I was referring to team performance. I've been criticizing Pascal's tenure as the lead Raptor on the premise that his skillset isn't conducive to being a focal point.

It's not a comment of the quality of player he is isn't. Or the validity of his achievements. It's commentary on the type of player he is
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#366 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Sun Jun 1, 2025 1:41 am

APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#367 » by Badonkadonk » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:36 am

Pascal leading his team in scoring in an ECF clinching game, on great efficiency and strong defense, is a legacy builder.

Chuck, Shaq AND Kenny have been giving him his flowers in this series.

I'm so happy for him, and for how insane that '19 team is aging. It was so stacked.
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Post#368 » by AbC? » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:42 am

HAHAHA EAT SH*T

Selfish Siakam.
Historically bad 3 point shooter Siakam
Holding Barnes back
Cabal Siakam

One of the most disrespected players by fans/front office we've ever had. Can't believe Masai publicly called him out, glad he's thriving away from this toxic team.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#369 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:44 am

Aw it was never Pascals fault. Happy to see him in another NBa finals.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#370 » by canada_dry » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:45 am

Listening on espn radio:

Last time siakam was a supporting piece to kawhi. This time he's going to the finals as The Guy.

I love that hes getting his credit from the American coverage. About time.

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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#371 » by Basketball_Jones » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:47 am

Yeah and Masai didn’t wanna pay him for some reason who knows what the hell happened between them
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#372 » by yoadknux » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:48 am

ECF Finals MVP too. As a Pacers fan, Siakam was our best player this post-season. Maybe not as clutch as Hali, but consistently produced at an elite level.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#373 » by djsunyc » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:48 am

MVP PASCAL!!!!

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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#375 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:49 am

What now haters?
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#376 » by EastonEddy » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:49 am

Pascal MVP of the ECF... I just don't think a lot of people watch the games who are commenting in here.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#377 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:53 am

So many years of garbage here has been wiped away by future hall of famer Pascal Siakam.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#378 » by djsunyc » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:54 am

pascal's never gotten the real respect he deserves across the league. hopefully that changes now.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#379 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:54 am

Masai has to be in shambles tonight after the way this organization treated him on the way out.
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Re: OT - Pascal is the First Scoring Option on a Contender - Apologize To Pascal 

Post#380 » by Raptorfan2012 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:54 am

The good news is if Pascal is your ECF MVP, then the East is truly wide open lol.

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