GT: Raptors (6-5) @ Cavs (7-4) | Nov 13th 7:00 EST

[YogurtProducer]

I’m not gonna get into an other fvv debate but I always said that building around him as the starting pg was gonna stagnate the organization for years to come which it did. His best role was always off the bench and that’s that.

Like I said I hate how this organization loves trying to make bench guys starters when it’s clear their best role for the team is off the bench.

Oh man, this boards inability to be impartial regarding some players is wild.

Dude made an ASG and we still have people arguing he wasn’t good enough to start

I’m sure we would’ve loved to have him as a 6th man. Unfortunately, guys who are good don’t settle for less money and lesser roles.

I HOPE Shead one day is so good we have to complain if he’s a true all star or not one year.

Jamaal magloire was an all star…

Please apply this inpartial argument to yourself as well.

Jamaal Magloire got in due to stupid position requirements.

Not even in the same stratosphere of players my god.

[bape_lovers]

He is like the beef up version of Chris

Mamu is so skilled man

[Duffman100]

I’m not gonna get into an other fvv debate but I always said that building around him as the starting pg was gonna stagnate the organization for years to come which it did. His best role was always off the bench and that’s that.

Like I said I hate how this organization loves trying to make bench guys starters when it’s clear their best role for the team is off the bench.

Oh man, this boards inability to be impartial regarding some players is wild.

Dude made an ASG and we still have people arguing he wasn’t good enough to start

I’m sure we would’ve loved to have him as a 6th man. Unfortunately, guys who are good don’t settle for less money and lesser roles.

I HOPE Shead one day is so good we have to complain if he’s a true all star or not one year.

Jamaal magloire was an all star…

Please apply this inpartial argument to yourself as well.

Fred's pre all star numbers were fantastic. It was after the fact that he fell off a cliff.

[PushDaRock]

Walter has probably been their worst player this year

By far, not even been close. Ochai has sucked equally on offense but been a bit better defensively.

I hate how Ochai was arguably their best wing last year and he’s not getting a chance to outplay dick or Walter who have been worse and have no track record of anything better than what Ochai did last year.

Well, he's injured now or he probably would be playing in front of Walter I think.

[Dennis 37]

This lineup right here might give up the lead. Our two most impactful guys in Barnes and Shead are on the bench.

Ahhhh **** me. I can already see the new love obsession starting. This is FVV circa 2019 all over again.

Can’t wait to build this guy up just to tear him the hell apart

How many times have we seen Shead run into three taller defenders instead of passing out?

[HiJiNX]

Feels like they’re reluctant to blow the whistle for us.

[Reeko]

This lineup right here might give up the lead. Our two most impactful guys in Barnes and Shead are on the bench.

Ahhhh **** me. I can already see the new love obsession starting. This is FVV circa 2019 all over again.

Can’t wait to build this guy up just to tear him the hell apart

I liked Fred, until I didn't. But I love Shead.

[Boogie!]

By far, not even been close. Ochai has sucked equally on offense but been a bit better defensively.

I hate how Ochai was arguably their best wing last year and he’s not getting a chance to outplay dick or Walter who have been worse and have no track record of anything better than what Ochai did last year.

Well, he's injured now or he probably would be playing in front of Walter I think.

I don’t think so

[everdiso]

It's not even IQ v Shead since IQ can easily play 2 guard beside Shead whenever we want.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I guess good job getting fouled, but that was kind of wild by RJ there

[Syd-TK3]

Rj lucky he got that call

[MEDIC]

Shead is the best PG that we have.

We I said he would eventually be better than Fred but not as good as Kyle, I got a lot of push back.

I could see that. He is faster and more athletic than both of them. He is starting to remind me of Kyle a little with his relentless hustle & physicality.

[YogurtProducer]

This lineup right here might give up the lead. Our two most impactful guys in Barnes and Shead are on the bench.

Ahhhh **** me. I can already see the new love obsession starting. This is FVV circa 2019 all over again.

Can’t wait to build this guy up just to tear him the hell apart

How many times have we seen Shead run into three taller defenders instead of passing out?

A few, nothing in personally concerned with.

I’m just hyped we have legit 2 man PG rotation. Big part of our prior era success was awesome PG play.

From Lowry / Vasquez to Lowry / Delon to Lowry / Cory Jo to Lowry / FVV.

2 point guards that are playable is an insane luxury to have. Our next goal is getting that 2nd C.

[PushDaRock]

Walter literally has one job lol and still helping off the shooter 1 pass away

[bape_lovers]

The guy defending rj looks like Dwight Howard

[MainEvent]

He is like the beef up version of Chris

Mamu is so skilled man

Chris was super inconsistent and streaky. Don't forget all his ???? What are you doing moments

[rapsincr]

great half so far, keep it up boys!

[Boogie!]

This lineup right here might give up the lead. Our two most impactful guys in Barnes and Shead are on the bench.

Ahhhh **** me. I can already see the new love obsession starting. This is FVV circa 2019 all over again.

Can’t wait to build this guy up just to tear him the hell apart

How many times have we seen Shead run into three taller defenders instead of passing out?

Yoghurt producer doesn’t seem to get it. If we stop acting like shead will eventually be the future star tint pg and next Kyle Lowry then I guarantee you no one is gonna tear him apart. Let him excel in his role

[HiJiNX]

RJ way out of position.

[HiJiNX]

This lineup is cheeks.