ESPN: Teams inquiring about Bargnani, Calderon

Greg Stink · Post #381 » by **Greg Stink** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:03 pm

revvolutions wrote:i think we've already made the judgment call on bayless when we didn't extend him. i doubt he gets offered much.

Crazy-Canuck wrote:The only thing Bayless has shown this year is his inability to stay healthy.

Nobody will offer him starting money, or anything long-term. I would have extended him at $4-5 per last summer but now I'm thinking a move to China would be brilliant for him.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #382 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:07 pm

I still think he is talented and preferred for him to pan out for us, but the kid just cant shake that injury bug.

J-Roc · Post #383 » by **J-Roc** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:29 pm

It's a sign of how great they've been that teams are inquiring about Bargs and Jose.

Saciid11 · Post #384 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:11 pm

How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

Plushberry · Post #385 » by **Plushberry** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:23 pm

Saciid11 wrote:How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

We would need to get rid of DD, but where do I sign? Harden is going to be an all-star.

hankscorpioLA · Post #386 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:24 pm

cb4_jo6 wrote:Calderon was always on the trading block, IMO. They're looking for a draft pick in return I would say.

On the basis of exactly what information do you draw this conclusion?

Saciid11 · Post #387 » by **Saciid11** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:26 pm

Plushberry wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

We would need to get rid of DD, but where do I sign? Harden is going to be an all-star.

Derozen is small forward and you keep him as small forward ...

hankscorpioLA · Post #388 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Plushberry wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

We would need to get rid of DD, but where do I sign? Harden is going to be an all-star.

You can sign up for this trade in your pipe dreams.

There is absolutely no reason why OKC would make this deal.

dagger · Post #389 » by **dagger** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:51 pm

Saciid11 wrote:
Plushberry wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

We would need to get rid of DD, but where do I sign? Harden is going to be an all-star.

Derozen is small forward and you keep him as small forward ...

He may play like a small forward at times, but by his own admission he is 6'5" (forget the 6'7" crap, he says that's bull) and that's not nearly tall enough the way he would play the position.

Live Free · Post #390 » by **Live Free** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:15 pm

If Jennings is not in play Raps should just take Devin Harris + Draft pick for Jose, call it a night, If Harris works out great.. if he doesn't.. go after Jennings in free agency (same year Harris expires)

zilby · Post #391 » by **zilby** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:22 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
cb4_jo6 wrote:Calderon was always on the trading block, IMO. They're looking for a draft pick in return I would say.

On the basis of exactly what information do you draw this conclusion?

The fact that he's been involved in rumors for the past three years and the fact that there was a trade verbally agreed upon before the 10-11 season. (The one to the bobcats)

bboyskinnylegs · Post #392 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:23 pm

Live Free wrote:If Jennings is not in play Raps should just take Devin Harris + Draft pick for Jose, call it a night, If Harris works out great.. if he doesn't.. go after Jennings in free agency (same year Harris expires)

what draft pick do you expect to get from the Jazz? Right now the Jazz keep their pick if it's in the lottery this year (if it's not, the Wolves get it), and they own the Warriors pick, top 7 protected as well. Those picks are at #11 and #12 right now, so while the Jazz would keep both, I definitely don't see them moving either pick to upgrade from Harris to Jose.

BirdmanPresents · Post #393 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:25 pm

Saciid11 wrote:How about Ed Davis + Calderon+ future 1rd for Harden + Nasr Mohammed

Being a Thunder fan (second to being a Raptors fan of course) I can confidently say there is no way in HELL OKC bites on this. Even if you include this year's first and Bargnani instead of Jose, they are a championship contending team with a young core. Why start messing wit it? The only thing I can see them making a move for is an inside scorer (Ed Davis does not qualify as inside scorer) and they still aren't moving Durant, Westbrook or Harden for that.

zilby · Post #394 » by **zilby** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:30 pm

I think this deadline we get rid of Jose, and really it isn't idealistic to trade bargs unless you're winning the deal. His value's been high but he's been injured most of the season, and if he continues his play into next year, it'll only go higher and perhaps we can get something good out of it.

hankscorpioLA · Post #395 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:15 pm

zilby wrote:
hankscorpioLA wrote:
cb4_jo6 wrote:Calderon was always on the trading block, IMO. They're looking for a draft pick in return I would say.

On the basis of exactly what information do you draw this conclusion?

The fact that he's been involved in rumors for the past three years and the fact that there was a trade verbally agreed upon before the 10-11 season. (The one to the bobcats)

Just because you are willing to trade a player for a top-tier center does not mean he is "on the trading block".

Plus, as far as I know, that is the last time the Raptors have had serious discussions about trading Calderon.

Hardly "on the block" if you asked me.

S.W.A.N · Post #396 » by **S.W.A.N** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:28 pm

TrueToCaesar wrote:Don't kid yourself, the difference between them is not just "One guy blocks more shots, the other guy rebounds more but besides that they're the same".

Magloire can't really do anything at a high level... Reggie was a tough defender that played mind games and was one of the best rebounders in THE LEAGUE. He was leading the league for a while IIRC.

I am going to have to disagree with you on that one.

While Reggie is an Elite rebounder his defense was not even close to being good. Calling him a tough defender is false. Sure he not afraid to rub a guys nuts to make him think twice before backing into him but that didn't make him tough or smart.

And While Reggie got us 3-4 extra shots with his offensive rebounding he usually wasted two of them with dumb offfensive attempts.

Magloire gives us an equal if not more amount of toughness, veteran leadership, and is a bigger body that can defend Centers.

With Bargs being a PF this year Reggie was pretty freaking redundant as he useless as a center. So one trick pony has no spot on our team (and I like reggie )

raptor21_85 · Post #397 » by **raptor21_85** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:13 pm

Seems like a trade is closer. ALvaro Martin, ESPN comentator twitted this:

AlvaroNBAMartin Alvaro Martin
TorontoSun: offers for #JoseManuelCalderon and his $10.5 million expiring contract "piling in", but if traded, who would play the point?

https://twitter.com/#!/AlvaroNBAMartin

Plushberry · Post #398 » by **Plushberry** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:16 pm

If we trade Calderon we are going to compete for the worst record in the L

illy · Post #399 » by **illy** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:27 pm

why the talk of who plays pg? pick up jonny flynn where ever he is.

ty123 · Post #400 » by **ty123** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:34 pm

Plushberry wrote:If we trade Calderon we are going to compete for the worst record in the L

So keeping Calderon & making us 5th worst is a better option?