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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#381 » by RaptorNews » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:25 am

Then again Lowry whacked Deron on a drive and they didn't call it
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#382 » by Xepa777 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:29 am

RaptorNews wrote:Then again Lowry whacked Deron on a drive and they didn't call it


There are like 2 straight pages on the Nets gameday thread that compared this call to the time Deron was called for a foul on the exact same play. Check their board, all crying ref rigging and how the NBA wants a 7 game series out of this.

...basketball easily has 300+ instances of possible fouls/no fouls every game, and fans only remember the 4% that's incredibly egregious against them to cry conspiracy/terrible reffing....on both sides. This is why you should just never blame your result on reffing.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#383 » by Crazy_NBA_Fan » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:40 am

Wizdome wrote:
Donaghy: Raps are up against Nets, and referees


http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/


This was a great read, thanks bro. It gave me goosebumps, everything Donaghy said is exactly what I said and thought before this series even started. I even named Donahgy in my original posting. The only thing I didn't agree with that he said was about our crowd. He's wrong, our crowd will get on the refs if they call a BS call, especially after a replay on the jumbotron. I don't know how he missed that.

Again everyone, check out that article its not all conspiracy talk. The guy has inside information, and everything that has happened in these 2 games has been accurate.
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Post#384 » by Double Bubble » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:49 am

Fairview4Life wrote:...ok?

Sheldon Cooper is addressing your state of confusion, check out his posts.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#385 » by asham27 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:54 am

Crazy_NBA_Fan wrote:
Wizdome wrote:
Donaghy: Raps are up against Nets, and referees


http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/


This was a great read, thanks bro. It gave me goosebumps, everything Donaghy said is exactly what I said and thought before this series even started. I even named Donahgy in my original posting. The only thing I didn't agree with that he said was about our crowd. He's wrong, our crowd will get on the refs if they call a BS call, especially after a replay on the jumbotron. I don't know how he missed that.

Again everyone, check out that article its not all conspiracy talk. The guy has inside information, and everything that has happened in these 2 games has been accurate.


Lol at anyone who takes anything Donaghy says seriously

Might as well ask Bernie Madoff for investment advice
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#386 » by Crazy_NBA_Fan » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:02 am

asham27 wrote:
Crazy_NBA_Fan wrote:


This was a great read, thanks bro. It gave me goosebumps, everything Donaghy said is exactly what I said and thought before this series even started. I even named Donahgy in my original posting. The only thing I didn't agree with that he said was about our crowd. He's wrong, our crowd will get on the refs if they call a BS call, especially after a replay on the jumbotron. I don't know how he missed that.

Again everyone, check out that article its not all conspiracy talk. The guy has inside information, and everything that has happened in these 2 games has been accurate.


Lol at anyone who takes anything Donaghy says seriously


Come on bro? The man is definitely a cheater, and screwed over a lot of teams while officiating but you really think he's full of sh*t? I watch tons of basketball games, and I see everything he says. Even if he didn't speak so openly about NBA reffing, I would still react the same way. Look at Howard being called for his 6th foul in that Portland game, that clearly was not a foul if anything it should've been an offensive foul. What do you think about that play, was it not a foul to you?
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#387 » by cammac » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:53 am

Refereeing is inconsistent simply because there are few good refereeing teams.
Do I believe some referees have a agenda against some teams or players yes.
Do I believe some referees shave points for profit yes.
Do I believe the NBA wants star calls stopped no.
Do I believe some referees are incompetent yes.
Do referees favor teams from major USA markets yes.

But I think in todays game with all the analytics that referees should be scouted as much as teams and a scouting report on the there tendencies should be part of the game plan.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#388 » by Rhythm043 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:47 pm

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/ ... -referees/

Entering game two, Donaghy doesn’t expect the Raptors to see much of an improvement from the officials.

“When I look at refs for tonight’s game for example… if you’re putting Gary Zielinski and David Jones in an arena like Portland where the fans are very boisterous and come down on you at every call, then that home team will have an advantage. They’re what we consider to be in the referee world kind of like homer refs. They don’t like to go against the tough crowd.

“This isn’t a knock on Toronto or their fans, but they don’t have that type of crowd. If they did, I would say Toronto would be in good shape tonight.”


The fans got on the refs last night on pretty much every questionable call. I saw a couple makeup calls immediately after.

If anything in the article is true about the refs I won't be watching a rigged sport much longer.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#389 » by Truthrising » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:53 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/

Entering game two, Donaghy doesn’t expect the Raptors to see much of an improvement from the officials.

“When I look at refs for tonight’s game for example… if you’re putting Gary Zielinski and David Jones in an arena like Portland where the fans are very boisterous and come down on you at every call, then that home team will have an advantage. They’re what we consider to be in the referee world kind of like homer refs. They don’t like to go against the tough crowd.

“This isn’t a knock on Toronto or their fans, but they don’t have that type of crowd. If they did, I would say Toronto would be in good shape tonight.”


The fans got on the refs last night on pretty much every questionable call. I saw a couple makeup calls immediately after.

If anything in the article is true about the refs I won't be watching a rigged sport much longer.

It's ok if the NBA is rigged..just try not to take it as seriously that's all, honestly you should try and see the NBA much like WWE..and look past the fairness in competition and just be entertained by the storylines of the NBA.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#390 » by Patman » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:57 pm

asham27 wrote:
Crazy_NBA_Fan wrote:


This was a great read, thanks bro. It gave me goosebumps, everything Donaghy said is exactly what I said and thought before this series even started. I even named Donahgy in my original posting. The only thing I didn't agree with that he said was about our crowd. He's wrong, our crowd will get on the refs if they call a BS call, especially after a replay on the jumbotron. I don't know how he missed that.

Again everyone, check out that article its not all conspiracy talk. The guy has inside information, and everything that has happened in these 2 games has been accurate.


Lol at anyone who takes anything Donaghy says seriously

Might as well ask Bernie Madoff for investment advice


You do realize that law enforcement catches a lot of criminals with information from other criminals, right?

Obviously, you take what they say with a grain of salt, but you don't just dismiss it.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#391 » by Rhythm043 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:57 pm

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Rhythm043 wrote:http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/

Entering game two, Donaghy doesn’t expect the Raptors to see much of an improvement from the officials.

“When I look at refs for tonight’s game for example… if you’re putting Gary Zielinski and David Jones in an arena like Portland where the fans are very boisterous and come down on you at every call, then that home team will have an advantage. They’re what we consider to be in the referee world kind of like homer refs. They don’t like to go against the tough crowd.

“This isn’t a knock on Toronto or their fans, but they don’t have that type of crowd. If they did, I would say Toronto would be in good shape tonight.”


The fans got on the refs last night on pretty much every questionable call. I saw a couple makeup calls immediately after.

If anything in the article is true about the refs I won't be watching a rigged sport much longer.

It's ok if the NBA is rigged..just try not to take it as seriously that's all, honestly you should try and see the NBA much like WWE..and look past the fairness in competition and just be entertained by the storylines of the NBA.


I hope your joking about the WWE, lol. But no man, if any of that is true, it's not okay and I can't watch a sport that is being decided by anything other than the players on the court and I can't not take it seriously either. I doubt Donaghy is making it ALL up.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#392 » by pbj » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:01 pm

Xepa777 wrote:
RaptorNews wrote:Then again Lowry whacked Deron on a drive and they didn't call it


There are like 2 straight pages on the Nets gameday thread that compared this call to the time Deron was called for a foul on the exact same play. Check their board, all crying ref rigging and how the NBA wants a 7 game series out of this.

...basketball easily has 300+ instances of possible fouls/no fouls every game, and fans only remember the 4% that's incredibly egregious against them to cry conspiracy/terrible reffing....on both sides. This is why you should just never blame your result on reffing.


There's this fool at work that comes in after game 1 and says "This is why I can't watch basketball - 0 fouls in the 4th quarter? It's like the WWE"

The guys a big curling fan, so I guess he's just not used to contact sports
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#393 » by Rhythm043 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:04 pm

pbj wrote:
Xepa777 wrote:
RaptorNews wrote:Then again Lowry whacked Deron on a drive and they didn't call it


There are like 2 straight pages on the Nets gameday thread that compared this call to the time Deron was called for a foul on the exact same play. Check their board, all crying ref rigging and how the NBA wants a 7 game series out of this.

...basketball easily has 300+ instances of possible fouls/no fouls every game, and fans only remember the 4% that's incredibly egregious against them to cry conspiracy/terrible reffing....on both sides. This is why you should just never blame your result on reffing.


There's this fool at work that comes in after game 1 and says "This is why I can't watch basketball - 0 fouls in the 4th quarter? It's like the WWE"

The guys a big curling fan, so I guess he's just not used to contact sports


So you really think there should have been 0 fouls that whole 4th quarter of game 1?
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Post#394 » by Rhythm043 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:10 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... -1.1765245

Nba released a statement on Donaghy comments

An NBA spokesman issued this statement: “Tim Donaghy is a convicted felon looking for any opportunity for people to listen to his baseless allegations. For Mr. Donaghy to continually try to challenge his former colleagues’ ethics is distasteful and says more about his own integrity than it could ever say about our referees, who are the best and most scrutinized game officials in the world.”
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#395 » by Truthrising » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:12 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:
truthrising wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donaghy-raptors-battling-nets-referees/



The fans got on the refs last night on pretty much every questionable call. I saw a couple makeup calls immediately after.

If anything in the article is true about the refs I won't be watching a rigged sport much longer.

It's ok if the NBA is rigged..just try not to take it as seriously that's all, honestly you should try and see the NBA much like WWE..and look past the fairness in competition and just be entertained by the storylines of the NBA.


I hope your joking about the WWE, lol. But no man, if any of that is true, it's not okay and I can't watch a sport that is being decided by anything other than the players on the court and I can't not take it seriously either. I doubt Donaghy is making it ALL up.

You do realize it's not just basketball..things like match fixing happens in all sports ie football, baseball etc. Honestly it's pretty hard to get rid of especially when you have underground organizations such as the mafia involved.
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Post#396 » by pbj » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:14 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:
pbj wrote:
Xepa777 wrote:
There are like 2 straight pages on the Nets gameday thread that compared this call to the time Deron was called for a foul on the exact same play. Check their board, all crying ref rigging and how the NBA wants a 7 game series out of this.

...basketball easily has 300+ instances of possible fouls/no fouls every game, and fans only remember the 4% that's incredibly egregious against them to cry conspiracy/terrible reffing....on both sides. This is why you should just never blame your result on reffing.


There's this fool at work that comes in after game 1 and says "This is why I can't watch basketball - 0 fouls in the 4th quarter? It's like the WWE"

The guys a big curling fan, so I guess he's just not used to contact sports


So you really think there should have been 0 fouls that whole 4th quarter of game 1?


Yes, that's what I said
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#397 » by Lukeem » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:16 pm

Did espn give some angles TSN didnt last game ( most notably fields over the back (?) foul on garnett in 4 th

That and the constant illegal screens by garnett that never get called ( much worse than JVs which constantly toe the line) those and some questionable (strips) are my only problems with last game.

The questionable strips are routine missed / star biased calls. The garnett vs Jv illegal screens is pure NBA star treatment.

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Post#398 » by Rhythm043 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:19 pm

pbj wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:
pbj wrote:
There's this fool at work that comes in after game 1 and says "This is why I can't watch basketball - 0 fouls in the 4th quarter? It's like the WWE"

The guys a big curling fan, so I guess he's just not used to contact sports


So you really think there should have been 0 fouls that whole 4th quarter of game 1?


Yes, that's what I said


Watch the tape again bro. We got fouled. Brk got 8 FT in the fourth quarter which was the margin of victory.
That guy you work with is right.
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Post#399 » by pbj » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:01 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:
pbj wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:
So you really think there should have been 0 fouls that whole 4th quarter of game 1?


Yes, that's what I said


Watch the tape again bro. We got fouled. Brk got 8 FT in the fourth quarter which was the margin of victory.
That guy you work with is right.


I was being sarcastic, obviously there were fouls they missed.

I just thought it was ridiculous he was say that's why he can't watch BASKETBALL when refs make/miss terrible calls in every sport.
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Re: Update: The BIASED referee calling against the Raptors 

Post#400 » by Crazy_NBA_Fan » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:04 pm

truthrising wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:
truthrising wrote:It's ok if the NBA is rigged..just try not to take it as seriously that's all, honestly you should try and see the NBA much like WWE..and look past the fairness in competition and just be entertained by the storylines of the NBA.


I hope your joking about the WWE, lol. But no man, if any of that is true, it's not okay and I can't watch a sport that is being decided by anything other than the players on the court and I can't not take it seriously either. I doubt Donaghy is making it ALL up.

You do realize it's not just basketball..things like match fixing happens in all sports ie football, baseball etc. Honestly it's pretty hard to get rid of especially when you have underground organizations such as the mafia involved.


I predominantly watch basketball, football, baseball, and boxing and I have to say basketball is the easier sport to rig. There's just so many aspects of basketball where you can influence a game. For example, calling an unnecessary foul/flagrant, technical, or claim the ball went off another team when it wasn't the case. I have to say Football is probably the least likely sport to be rigged, the refs aren't blatantly bias when officiating. I've seen a couple awful calls that decided the outcome of a game when the replacement refs were officiating early in the season last year but other than that not too much comes to mind. I agree with you though, its pretty hard to eliminate fixing entirely from all sports even if the president got involved lol. Kinda reminds me of eliminating B6-13 from the television show Scandal, you can try but it will never die.

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