2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Psubs]

What about Jeff Green for say 1 year $4 million?
Aron Baynes for 1 year at $6 million?

Let Marc walk and sign Ibaka to $18-16-18-16 million?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Boucher
C Ibaka - Baynes - Green

Draft BPA at #29.

[LJKO]

Pascal+Norm+2020 1st&2nd RD Pick for Beal+Rui Hachimura and sign Kostas Antetokounmpo then call it a offseason & see if we can trade Lowry to a contender for pieces and sign him for vet when Giannis comes

FVV/Whatever we get for Lowry
Beal/TD
OG/Thomas
Hachimura/Kostas
Ibaka/Boucher

Then when we get Giannis

Lowry/FVV
Beal/TD
OG
Hachimura/Kostas
Giannis/Ibaka

[Raptorfan2012]

What do you guys see as some realistic trades for Norm this off-season? I think Norm has still some value ($10 mill a season for what he can do as a gunner off the bench), but I think his days are truly numbered. He is most likely going to exercise his PO in 2021, and I don't think we will be paying him. We also have some good SGs on the bench waiting to take his place (Matt, Watson, TD).

[tecumseh18]

What do you guys see as some realistic trades for Norm this off-season? I think Norm has still some value ($10 mill a season for what he can do as a gunner off the bench), but I think his days are truly numbered. He is most likely going to exercise his PO in 2021, and I don't think we will be paying him. We also have some good SGs on the bench waiting to take his place (Matt, Watson, TD).

I think Norm will go out with the draft pick, either to get great long term value or for a rental to clear cap space for 2021. You would think Norm + FRP would have some value. Ideally another big wing, since that's our weakness right now. Jerami Grant? But Nuggets don't really need another guard. If the decision is to let Fred walk, then I wouldn't mind getting Delon back.

[StopitLeo]

What about Jeff Green for say 1 year $4 million?
Aron Baynes for 1 year at $6 million?

Let Marc walk and sign Ibaka to $18-16-18-16 million?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Boucher
C Ibaka - Baynes - Green

Draft BPA at #29.

I'm not a big fan of Jeff Green.

I'm 100% on board with Aron Baynes though. He'd be a perfect short-term addition to replace Gasol. Similar skill set minus the playmaking.

Ibaka is a solid vet and you need some continuity year-to-year; I'm not sure he'll sign a short enough deal (i.e., 1 year) since it'll likely be his last sizable contract. He's been good this season but I wouldn't want to commit multiple years with his age.

If we are going to sign a big for multiple years I'd take a serious look at Tristan Thompson IF we can make it work for our cap moving forward.

[Psubs]

What about Jeff Green for say 1 year $4 million?
Aron Baynes for 1 year at $6 million?

Let Marc walk and sign Ibaka to $18-16-18-16 million?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Boucher
C Ibaka - Baynes - Green

Draft BPA at #29.

I'm not a big fan of Jeff Green.

I'm 100% on board with Aron Baynes though. He'd be a perfect short-term addition to replace Gasol. Similar skill set minus the playmaking.

Ibaka is a solid vet and you need some continuity year-to-year; I'm not sure he'll sign a short enough deal (i.e., 1 year) since it'll likely be his last sizable contract. He's been good this season but I wouldn't want to commit multiple years with his age.

If we are going to sign a big for multiple years I'd take a serious look at Tristan Thompson IF we can make it work for our cap moving forward.

Thompson should accept the MLE for 4 years. His A/T is over 1 and he shot 9 for 23 from 3, so who knows, he could develop a 3-pt shot.

Do you think Baynes would take a 1 year deal worth $4 million with a team option 2nd for $5 million?

Do you think Thompson would take a 4 year deal starting at $6 million with raises? 6-5-6-7 4th year player option?

[zilby]

What do you guys see as some realistic trades for Norm this off-season? I think Norm has still some value ($10 mill a season for what he can do as a gunner off the bench), but I think his days are truly numbered. He is most likely going to exercise his PO in 2021, and I don't think we will be paying him. We also have some good SGs on the bench waiting to take his place (Matt, Watson, TD).

Norm will likely be packaged with a first round pick either this year or next year to acquire some higher-end talent. We need a move to raise our potential ceiling this offseason and find a go-to scorer next to Pascal.

All that being said, Victor Oladipo makes the most sense for a laundry list of reasons:

- His value is extremely low since he hasn't been healthy in a year and a half and looked extremely shaky in his return this year (similar to Kawhi situation in that manner), plus reports of Indy not wanting to extend him and him preferring a trade if he doesn't get said extension
- When healthy, is a top 20 player in the league and a perfect complement to the team. He'll be able to take pressure off Pascal as a go-to scorer, can take over ball-handling duties which allows Fred to play off the ball, gives us size defensively
- Given his health is one of the bigger concerns, Raptors would be able to control his rehab with McKechnie, who has a penchant for bringing players back to life
- Oladipo is tight with Masai, Dipo is a part of the NBA Africa project so there is already a connection
- Personality wise, he fits the Raptors organization like a glove. Built off hard work, blue collar type player, great two-way guard who wants to win badly
- Raps would have an inside track on his free agency. Dipo is currently set to expire in 2021, but with a solid year behind him and provided everything works out, we'll have a year to sell him on our organization, culture, and city.
- Absolute worst case scenario is the move doesn't work and Oladipo doesn't re-sign, in which case we easily move on, we're not on the hook for Norm's final year, and we've sacrificed no assets beyond 2021
- Other teams likely won't be willing to put in an offer if they don't feel confident they can re-sign him. I can only see realistically, Dallas, New York, and maybe Brooklyn submitting offers (and BKN doesn't do it unless Beal is firmly unavailable)

Based on all that, I put this on previous page, but the initial deal I proposed is Norm, McCaw and our 2021 FRP for Oladipo. Indiana saves money and probably safely avoids luxury tax this way, get a draft asset and good value in Norm, who probably slots as a 6th man and gives Indy bench scoring they sorely lacked this season, or maybe they start him if Brogdon doesn't want to play SG.

Kyle/Fred/Oladipo/OG/Pascal as next season's starting 5. Use exceptions to add some size and scoring off the bench and we're rolling with a very versatile two-way team.

[HeadtopChunes]

What do you guys see as some realistic trades for Norm this off-season? I think Norm has still some value ($10 mill a season for what he can do as a gunner off the bench), but I think his days are truly numbered. He is most likely going to exercise his PO in 2021, and I don't think we will be paying him. We also have some good SGs on the bench waiting to take his place (Matt, Watson, TD).

Norm will likely be packaged with a first round pick either this year or next year to acquire some higher-end talent. We need a move to raise our potential ceiling this offseason and find a go-to scorer next to Pascal.

All that being said, Victor Oladipo makes the most sense for a laundry list of reasons:

- His value is extremely low since he hasn't been healthy in a year and a half and looked extremely shaky in his return this year (similar to Kawhi situation in that manner), plus reports of Indy not wanting to extend him and him preferring a trade if he doesn't get said extension
- When healthy, is a top 20 player in the league and a perfect complement to the team. He'll be able to take pressure off Pascal as a go-to scorer, can take over ball-handling duties which allows Fred to play off the ball, gives us size defensively
- Given his health is one of the bigger concerns, Raptors would be able to control his rehab with McKechnie, who has a penchant for bringing players back to life
- Oladipo is tight with Masai, Dipo is a part of the NBA Africa project so there is already a connection
- Personality wise, he fits the Raptors organization like a glove. Built off hard work, blue collar type player, great two-way guard who wants to win badly
- Raps would have an inside track on his free agency. Dipo is currently set to expire in 2021, but with a solid year behind him and provided everything works out, we'll have a year to sell him on our organization, culture, and city.
- Absolute worst case scenario is the move doesn't work and Oladipo doesn't re-sign, in which case we easily move on, we're not on the hook for Norm's final year, and we've sacrificed no assets beyond 2021
- Other teams likely won't be willing to put in an offer if they don't feel confident they can re-sign him. I can only see realistically, Dallas, New York, and maybe Brooklyn submitting offers (and BKN doesn't do it unless Beal is firmly unavailable)

Based on all that, I put this on previous page, but the initial deal I proposed is Norm, McCaw and our 2021 FRP for Oladipo. Indiana saves money and probably safely avoids luxury tax this way, get a draft asset and good value in Norm, who probably slots as a 6th man and gives Indy bench scoring they sorely lacked this season, or maybe they start him if Brogdon doesn't want to play SG.

Kyle/Fred/Oladipo/OG/Pascal as next season's starting 5. Use exceptions to add some size and scoring off the bench and we're rolling with a very versatile two-way team.

I think Fred is more likely to be moved in a dipo deal although i can see Norm being moved to a 3rd team to make it work.

- Fred is more valuable than Norm (makes the package more enticing for Indy)
- Fred, Siakam and Dipo on the books means no max room in 21
- Dipo plays the same role as Fred

[StopitLeo]

Thompson should accept the MLE for 4 years. His A/T is over 1 and he shot 9 for 23 from 3, so who knows, he could develop a 3-pt shot.

Do you think Baynes would take a 1 year deal worth $4 million with a team option 2nd for $5 million?

Do you think Thompson would take a 4 year deal starting at $6 million with raises? 6-5-6-7 4th year player option?

I don't think Baynes will take a 1 year + team option making less than he does this year.

I think Thompson will take what the market offers. He probably thinks he's worth more than $6M/y.

[Psubs]

I think Fred is more likely to be moved in a dipo deal although i can see Norm being moved to a 3rd team to make it work.

- Fred is more valuable than Norm (makes the package more enticing for Indy)
- Fred, Siakam and Dipo on the books means no max room in 21
- Dipo plays the same role as Fred

Oladipo is a much better playmaker than Powell. Oladipo is making $21 million in 2020/2021 and and the Raptors would have his rights. Being former teammates with OG, and being African, would he work with Giannis to fit in Toronto financially; 20-22-24-26-28 (player option 4th, team option 5th). Lowry MLE for 5 years (4th and 5th years are like rewards for taking a massive paycut).

PG Lowry - TD - UDFA
SG Oladipo - Thomas - TD
SF OG - Watson - #59Diakite
PF Siakam - Giannis - Boucher
C Giannis - Ibaka - #29Oturu

[nabbs]

I look at a guy like Theis and I think to myself that no way in hell should a non superstar centre be making more than 10-15 million a year. We need that kind of value at the centre spot

[Raptorfan2012]

What about Jeff Green for say 1 year $4 million?
Aron Baynes for 1 year at $6 million?

Let Marc walk and sign Ibaka to $18-16-18-16 million?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Green - Boucher
C Ibaka - Baynes - Green

Draft BPA at #29.

I'm not a big fan of Jeff Green.

I'm 100% on board with Aron Baynes though. He'd be a perfect short-term addition to replace Gasol. Similar skill set minus the playmaking.

Ibaka is a solid vet and you need some continuity year-to-year; I'm not sure he'll sign a short enough deal (i.e., 1 year) since it'll likely be his last sizable contract. He's been good this season but I wouldn't want to commit multiple years with his age.

If we are going to sign a big for multiple years I'd take a serious look at Tristan Thompson IF we can make it work for our cap moving forward.

Thompson should accept the MLE for 4 years. His A/T is over 1 and he shot 9 for 23 from 3, so who knows, he could develop a 3-pt shot.

Do you think Baynes would take a 1 year deal worth $4 million with a team option 2nd for $5 million?

Do you think Thompson would take a 4 year deal starting at $6 million with raises? 6-5-6-7 4th year player option?

I can see TT take a 1 year deal to be back home and prove his worth, then maybe try to hit the market again in 2021 when lots of teams have cap space. I have TT penciled in as a Gasol/Ibaka replacement (should those two vets leave us this offseason).

I am also interested in Giles - I think this young man has lots of potential. I would rather roll with Giles than bring back Boucher.

[Raptorfan2012]

What do you guys see as some realistic trades for Norm this off-season? I think Norm has still some value ($10 mill a season for what he can do as a gunner off the bench), but I think his days are truly numbered. He is most likely going to exercise his PO in 2021, and I don't think we will be paying him. We also have some good SGs on the bench waiting to take his place (Matt, Watson, TD).

Norm will likely be packaged with a first round pick either this year or next year to acquire some higher-end talent. We need a move to raise our potential ceiling this offseason and find a go-to scorer next to Pascal.

All that being said, Victor Oladipo makes the most sense for a laundry list of reasons:

- His value is extremely low since he hasn't been healthy in a year and a half and looked extremely shaky in his return this year (similar to Kawhi situation in that manner), plus reports of Indy not wanting to extend him and him preferring a trade if he doesn't get said extension
- When healthy, is a top 20 player in the league and a perfect complement to the team. He'll be able to take pressure off Pascal as a go-to scorer, can take over ball-handling duties which allows Fred to play off the ball, gives us size defensively
- Given his health is one of the bigger concerns, Raptors would be able to control his rehab with McKechnie, who has a penchant for bringing players back to life
- Oladipo is tight with Masai, Dipo is a part of the NBA Africa project so there is already a connection
- Personality wise, he fits the Raptors organization like a glove. Built off hard work, blue collar type player, great two-way guard who wants to win badly
- Raps would have an inside track on his free agency. Dipo is currently set to expire in 2021, but with a solid year behind him and provided everything works out, we'll have a year to sell him on our organization, culture, and city.
- Absolute worst case scenario is the move doesn't work and Oladipo doesn't re-sign, in which case we easily move on, we're not on the hook for Norm's final year, and we've sacrificed no assets beyond 2021
- Other teams likely won't be willing to put in an offer if they don't feel confident they can re-sign him. I can only see realistically, Dallas, New York, and maybe Brooklyn submitting offers (and BKN doesn't do it unless Beal is firmly unavailable)

Based on all that, I put this on previous page, but the initial deal I proposed is Norm, McCaw and our 2021 FRP for Oladipo. Indiana saves money and probably safely avoids luxury tax this way, get a draft asset and good value in Norm, who probably slots as a 6th man and gives Indy bench scoring they sorely lacked this season, or maybe they start him if Brogdon doesn't want to play SG.

Kyle/Fred/Oladipo/OG/Pascal as next season's starting 5. Use exceptions to add some size and scoring off the bench and we're rolling with a very versatile two-way team.

I think Fred is more likely to be moved in a dipo deal although i can see Norm being moved to a 3rd team to make it work.

- Fred is more valuable than Norm (makes the package more enticing for Indy)
- Fred, Siakam and Dipo on the books means no max room in 21
- Dipo plays the same role as Fred

I don't know if the Pacers have any interest in Fred on a long term deal... Isn't Brogdan their starting PG? Also not sure if Fred wants to go to the Pacers, but who knows. We may also need to pick a pick to make it worthwhile for the Pacers, and even then, not sure if other teams can outbid us for Vic.

[HeadtopChunes]

Norm will likely be packaged with a first round pick either this year or next year to acquire some higher-end talent. We need a move to raise our potential ceiling this offseason and find a go-to scorer next to Pascal.

All that being said, Victor Oladipo makes the most sense for a laundry list of reasons:

- His value is extremely low since he hasn't been healthy in a year and a half and looked extremely shaky in his return this year (similar to Kawhi situation in that manner), plus reports of Indy not wanting to extend him and him preferring a trade if he doesn't get said extension
- When healthy, is a top 20 player in the league and a perfect complement to the team. He'll be able to take pressure off Pascal as a go-to scorer, can take over ball-handling duties which allows Fred to play off the ball, gives us size defensively
- Given his health is one of the bigger concerns, Raptors would be able to control his rehab with McKechnie, who has a penchant for bringing players back to life
- Oladipo is tight with Masai, Dipo is a part of the NBA Africa project so there is already a connection
- Personality wise, he fits the Raptors organization like a glove. Built off hard work, blue collar type player, great two-way guard who wants to win badly
- Raps would have an inside track on his free agency. Dipo is currently set to expire in 2021, but with a solid year behind him and provided everything works out, we'll have a year to sell him on our organization, culture, and city.
- Absolute worst case scenario is the move doesn't work and Oladipo doesn't re-sign, in which case we easily move on, we're not on the hook for Norm's final year, and we've sacrificed no assets beyond 2021
- Other teams likely won't be willing to put in an offer if they don't feel confident they can re-sign him. I can only see realistically, Dallas, New York, and maybe Brooklyn submitting offers (and BKN doesn't do it unless Beal is firmly unavailable)

Based on all that, I put this on previous page, but the initial deal I proposed is Norm, McCaw and our 2021 FRP for Oladipo. Indiana saves money and probably safely avoids luxury tax this way, get a draft asset and good value in Norm, who probably slots as a 6th man and gives Indy bench scoring they sorely lacked this season, or maybe they start him if Brogdon doesn't want to play SG.

Kyle/Fred/Oladipo/OG/Pascal as next season's starting 5. Use exceptions to add some size and scoring off the bench and we're rolling with a very versatile two-way team.

I think Fred is more likely to be moved in a dipo deal although i can see Norm being moved to a 3rd team to make it work.

- Fred is more valuable than Norm (makes the package more enticing for Indy)
- Fred, Siakam and Dipo on the books means no max room in 21
- Dipo plays the same role as Fred

I don't know if the Pacers have any interest in Fred on a long term deal... Isn't Brogdan their starting PG? Also not sure if Fred wants to go to the Pacers, but who knows. We may also need to pick a pick to make it worthwhile for the Pacers, and even then, not sure if other teams can outbid us for Vic.

I think the idea would be to pair Fred/Brogdan backcourt to replace Dipos production.

Also Fred can defend the quick gaurds that Brogdan is too slow for.

Yeah they might ask for a first and you’d need Fred to actually want to go to Indy to make this work

[StopitLeo]

I can see TT take a 1 year deal to be back home and prove his worth, then maybe try to hit the market again in 2021 when lots of teams have cap space. I have TT penciled in as a Gasol/Ibaka replacement (should those two vets leave us this offseason).

I am also interested in Giles - I think this young man has lots of potential. I would rather roll with Giles than bring back Boucher.

Forgot about Giles. He would be an excellent low-risk high-reward signing.

Toronto has a reputation now for developing young players so you'd have to think that would be a big selling point for someone in Giles' position.

[2muchTLC]

Pascal for Beal?

[Rapsfan07]

I'm not a big fan of Jeff Green.

I'm 100% on board with Aron Baynes though. He'd be a perfect short-term addition to replace Gasol. Similar skill set minus the playmaking.

Ibaka is a solid vet and you need some continuity year-to-year; I'm not sure he'll sign a short enough deal (i.e., 1 year) since it'll likely be his last sizable contract. He's been good this season but I wouldn't want to commit multiple years with his age.

If we are going to sign a big for multiple years I'd take a serious look at Tristan Thompson IF we can make it work for our cap moving forward.

Thompson should accept the MLE for 4 years. His A/T is over 1 and he shot 9 for 23 from 3, so who knows, he could develop a 3-pt shot.

Do you think Baynes would take a 1 year deal worth $4 million with a team option 2nd for $5 million?

Do you think Thompson would take a 4 year deal starting at $6 million with raises? 6-5-6-7 4th year player option?

I can see TT take a 1 year deal to be back home and prove his worth, then maybe try to hit the market again in 2021 when lots of teams have cap space. I have TT penciled in as a Gasol/Ibaka replacement (should those two vets leave us this offseason).

I am also interested in Giles - I think this young man has lots of potential. I would rather roll with Giles than bring back Boucher.

I'm very interested in Giles. I think he has the chance to be special with the right coaching and development.

[Kingsway_fan]

Pascal for Beal?

and Washington does this for ???

[LoveMyRaps]

If Suns continue to struggle and Booker wants out.
I'd go all in for him and build a package around Siakam and TD. Include a plethora of draft picks as well if you have to.

Siakam and Ayton have a good relationship, and Siakam always has great games against the Suns so they definitely have a good impression of him.

Booker loves Toronto and is close friends with Drake.

[execoftheyear]

I think Fred is more likely to be moved in a dipo deal although i can see Norm being moved to a 3rd team to make it work.

- Fred is more valuable than Norm (makes the package more enticing for Indy)
- Fred, Siakam and Dipo on the books means no max room in 21
- Dipo plays the same role as Fred

Oladipo is a much better playmaker than Powell. Oladipo is making $21 million in 2020/2021 and and the Raptors would have his rights. Being former teammates with OG, and being African, would he work with Giannis to fit in Toronto financially; 20-22-24-26-28 (player option 4th, team option 5th). Lowry MLE for 5 years (4th and 5th years are like rewards for taking a massive paycut).

PG Lowry - TD - UDFA
SG Oladipo - Thomas - TD
SF OG - Watson - #59Diakite
PF Siakam - Giannis - Boucher
C Giannis - Ibaka - #29Oturu

when were Oladipo and OG teammates?