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Re: Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested 

Post#381 » by douggood » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:31 pm

Asif16 wrote:Dallas and Denver are 2 other teams I think to keep an eye on in regards to Lowry. Lowry would fit well in both teams.

Powell also makes a lot of sense for Dallas. Can we just Package Lowry and Powell for Porzingus?

One thing every single reporter has said, masai will work with Kyle to see where he wants to go.

I don't think Kyle will prefer dallas or denver when phi and miami are at the table.
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Post#382 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:32 pm

Asif16 wrote:I dont care how good this Precious guy is...if the Raps don't come out with Herro or Duncan Robinson in any Lowry trade to the heat.....Masai lost. Plain and simple

duncan gonnas get paid this offseason, his defense is garb and hes been inconsistent. also teams locking him up as the only thing he does is shoot of screens. Duncan may become a negative asset real quick.

we have to go after herro, a lineup of

fvv
herro
og
siakam
achiuwa is young with potential, find a way to make this happen even if it means trading norm
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Post#383 » by Asif16 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:34 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Asif16 wrote:I dont care how good this Precious guy is...if the Raps don't come out with Herro or Duncan Robinson in any Lowry trade to the heat.....Masai lost. Plain and simple

duncan gonnas get paid this offseason, his defense is garb and hes been inconsistent. also teams locking him up as the only thing he does is shoot of screens. Duncan may become a negative asset real quick.

we have to go after herro, a lineup of

fvv
herro
og
siakam
achiuwa is young with potential, find a way to make this happen even if it means trading norm


Regardless, Robinson is still far better than a package built around Kendrick Nunn. If we see Robinson declining, we can flip him for another asset. Right now it's about getting the best value.

But yes I do agree with you that Herro is the most ideal player to get for Lowry
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Post#384 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:41 pm

Asif16 wrote:
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Asif16 wrote:I dont care how good this Precious guy is...if the Raps don't come out with Herro or Duncan Robinson in any Lowry trade to the heat.....Masai lost. Plain and simple

duncan gonnas get paid this offseason, his defense is garb and hes been inconsistent. also teams locking him up as the only thing he does is shoot of screens. Duncan may become a negative asset real quick.

we have to go after herro, a lineup of

fvv
herro
og
siakam
achiuwa is young with potential, find a way to make this happen even if it means trading norm


Regardless, Robinson is still far better than a package built around Kendrick Nunn. If we see Robinson declining, we can flip him for another asset. Right now it's about getting the best value.

But yes I do agree with you that Herro is the most ideal player to get for Lowry

yea nunn is even worse, my point being we have to find a way to get herro even if it means giving up something else other than kl, like td or something else
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Post#385 » by Spida888 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:44 pm

Tomorrow's Denver game might be interesting depending on whether Kyle/Norm plays in it. If you're running so close to the trade deadline, do you still want to play these guys and risk scrapping any potential deals.

Miami not letting go of Herro makes sense, they probably don't want to pay for Robinson either. Maxey not being on the table is interesting, I'm guessing Raptors just want Thybulle more which I can see that. Hilarious if Philly is actually saying no to the deal if they need to include Maxey, like c'mon lol.
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Post#386 » by Spida888 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:48 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:duncan gonnas get paid this offseason, his defense is garb and hes been inconsistent. also teams locking him up as the only thing he does is shoot of screens. Duncan may become a negative asset real quick.

we have to go after herro, a lineup of

fvv
herro
og
siakam
achiuwa is young with potential, find a way to make this happen even if it means trading norm


Regardless, Robinson is still far better than a package built around Kendrick Nunn. If we see Robinson declining, we can flip him for another asset. Right now it's about getting the best value.

But yes I do agree with you that Herro is the most ideal player to get for Lowry

yea nunn is even worse, my point being we have to find a way to get herro even if it means giving up something else other than kl, like td or something else


Yeah I have no problem adding anybody else besides FVV/OG. TD will need to be renewed as well, and can be used as a sweetener. Personally, if we got Herro + Achiuwa for Lowry + Norm, I would still be satisfied even without the 2025 pick.
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Re: Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested 

Post#387 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:52 pm

Why in the world do you guys want Duncan Robinson??
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Post#388 » by mintsa » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:54 pm

I read the windhorst article. I agree. The Lowry free agent sweepstakes are actually happening now.....

Lowry wants either A) trade to heat with extension/re-signing already worked out. B) trade to Philly with extension/re-signing already worked out. C) already has wink wink deal to comeback to Toronto next year.

If Lowry is not dealt by Thursday, he’s back as a Raptor.
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Post#389 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:55 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:Why in the world do you guys want Duncan Robinson??

I feel the exact same way. It doesn’t make sense to pay him Joe Harrish money in our situation. Might as well keep Powell in that case.
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Re: Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested 

Post#390 » by MavCarter » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:02 pm

Unless lowry threatens to sign an extension with philly right away i dont see why the heat would give up herro when they can just chase lowry in the offseason
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Re: Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested 

Post#391 » by mtcan » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:03 pm

Windhorst on the Hoop Collective Podcast from yesterday mentioned that at least one team would want a Danny Green at the deadline...so there is a possibility he gets rerouted either before or at the trade deadline to generate another asset.

I'm curious to see if Danny gets traded prior to the deadline...because it could be a sign that Philly is either looking to sweeten a deal for Lowry or have decided to move on since Danny's expiring contract would absolutely need to be included in any Philly package...

...and which team would possibly want Danny Green? I'm thinking the Clippers...slowly trying to reassemble the 2019 Raptors roster.
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Post#392 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:04 pm

MavCarter wrote:Unless lowry threatens to sign an extension with philly right away i dont see why the heat would give up herro when they can just chase lowry in the offseason

i mean hes been inconsistent and lowry for the next few years gives them a better chance. If we trade klow to philly he probably signs. Lowry would fit miami like a glove, imagine having 2 jimmy butlers on the floor?
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Post#393 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:05 pm

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Post#394 » by mtcan » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:05 pm

MavCarter wrote:Unless lowry threatens to sign an extension with philly right away i dont see why the heat would give up herro when they can just chase lowry in the offseason

The idea here...is that whoever trades for Lowry likely has the inside scoop on resigning him...so Lowry won't likely even test the market if he agrees to go to that particular team...so while the Heat MAY have cap space to sign him...they may not get the chance to.
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Re: Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested 

Post#395 » by bozothepope » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:05 pm

Is it at all possible that Kyle is angling to go somewhere with DeMar? And is it at all possible that place is...Toronto?
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Post#396 » by Spida888 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:07 pm

mintsa wrote:I read the windhorst article. I agree. The Lowry free agent sweepstakes are actually happening now.....

Lowry wants either A) trade to heat with extension/re-signing already worked out. B) trade to Philly with extension/re-signing already worked out. C) already has wink wink deal to comeback to Toronto next year.

If Lowry is not dealt by Thursday, he’s back as a Raptor.

Man if it turns out to be C) that would be a massive turn off lol. Biggest tease ever and end ups being so anti-climatic.


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Post#397 » by Raptors_128 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:07 pm

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Post#398 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:10 pm

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Damn, is Danny Ainge negotiating on behalf of Reily?
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Post#399 » by Klayforspicy » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:11 pm

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Absolute garbage.

Its not thaaaat bad if Duncan is added, the issue is Duncan will be getting paid like Norm.

Also replace Dragic with Precious
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Post#400 » by MavCarter » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:12 pm

People dont want to pay norm but want to pay duncan robinson???
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