Jalen Suggs vs. Jalen Green

[DelAbbot]

1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)



TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Yeah I agree with all of this.

I think the Bosh/AD ceiling for Mobley will take many years (3-4) to reach, and very high risk of him not reaching that ceiling. Compare this to the fact that Suggs has little risk to reach his ceiling of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups (he needs to improve his shot and tighten his handle), and the fact that he is more NBA ready (Suggs+FVV backcourt will immediately be good complementary offense and a terror on defense) - I feel strongly about Suggs > Mobley for our team.

I am not confident Suggs falls to us, however...

[UnderdogRaptors]

I hate the cavs man, every *** year they get granted a top pick in the draft it's sickening.

They're about to trade their pick and a piece to okc or something I just hope they don't ** up our chances at our top desired pick.

What an embarrassment they will be back there next year lol

[EliteSmarts]

1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)


TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Cade is going to be a good player and all but he plays nothing alike Grant Hill. They score in completely different ways, as Grant Hill used more his quickness and athleticism to score, Cade uses his size, and strength to get baskets. The only thing they have in common is that they're both tall. I think that's a lazy comparison people are making.

Fair & excellent analysis. You prob grew up in the 90s so you watched G Hill live and I didn't. I only saw G Hill highlgihts so IM TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT that this comparison is bad.

So who would you compare Cade to?

[mcgrady_1]

I'm gonna stick to my prediction of Mobley falling to 4. But between Suggs and Green? My filipino body would probably give me diarrhea for 6 months if I said Suggs over Green out loud so I choose Green.

[CANsportsguru]

1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)



TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Green and Mobley also have the highest chances of being draft busts. Again they both need to put on significant muscle. Green plays nothing like Carter nor Tmac. He's quicker but not as smooth nor as powerful as those guys were. His shot starts out very low and he'll get stripped a lot in the NBA. He's raw and will be 3-5 years before you actually know what you have. In 3 years Cade and Suggs will be All-stars.

[Los_29]

1. Cunningham
2. Mobley
3. Suggs
4. Green

That’s how I rank them, and that’s the order I think they’ll get drafted.

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)



TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Green and Mobley also have the highest chances of being draft busts. Again they both need to put on significant muscle. Green plays nothing like Carter nor Tmac. He's quicker but not as smooth nor as powerful as those guys were. His shot starts out very low and he'll get stripped a lot in the NBA. He's raw and will be 3-5 years before you actually know what you have. In 3 years Cade and Suggs will be All-stars.

Yeah the top 4 all have some weaknesses to their game but Mobley and Green probably have a few more they need to address. Green has great potential but I don't like his shot mechanics and as athletic as he is, he needs to improve his lateral quickness and overall defensive awareness as he got shredded in the G-league.

[Blood Orange]

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)


TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Cade is going to be a good player and all but he plays nothing alike Grant Hill. They score in completely different ways, as Grant Hill used more his quickness and athleticism to score, Cade uses his size, and strength to get baskets. The only thing they have in common is that they're both tall. I think that's a lazy comparison people are making.

Fair & excellent analysis. You prob grew up in the 90s so you watched G Hill live and I didn't. I only saw G Hill highlgihts so IM TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT that this comparison is bad.

So who would you compare Cade to?

Cade is more like Carmelo with better passing instincts. He knows how to exploit weaker defenders with his size and strength and does a good job overall of attacking poorly run defences. He actually has higher BBallIQ than what I originally gave him credit for, as he knows where his and his team's advantages are in the half court setting. He knows how to probe the defence but he doesn't always make the correct play and adjust according to what the defence is giving him. He at times has tunnel vision and when he gets double or tripled team, he still tries to score despite being at a major disadvantage.

I think he's going to be a great scorer but he's going to have to learn to adjust the way he scores at the next level, cause he may not always be able to overpower weaker defenders because most players are going to be far stronger and superior than the college competition he was up against.

[duppyy]

If suggs and green get taken 2 and 3, it will be sad having to take Mobley, however Mobley might be really good, especially with a coach like Nurse.

[EH15]

1. Jalen Green
2. Cade Cunningham
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Evan Mobley

That's how I rank these players

Jalen Green = Vince Carter/TMac 2.0, and having wing like that in today NBA is DANGEROUS. He can get you bucket anytime, think of today NBA stars like Devin Booker & Dononvan Mitchell!

Cade Cunningham = He's basically Grant Hill 2.0, less scoring ability than HIll but more playmaking than HIll. Really high floor and in today NBA I easily he a superstar!

Jalen Suggs = Mixture of Tony Parker/Chauney BIillups/Brandon Roy

Evan Mobley = If this was Pre 21st century Basketball. Mobley would be my #2 prospect and Cade Cunningham would be my #1. But it isn't and were playing 2021 NBA Basketball of pace and space, more focus on playmaking and shooting and guards/wings having more freedom to shine!

Evan Mobley is talented player, mixture of Bosh/Ant Davis. But you can't win in today NBA having those guys being your #1 option. (Embiid and Jokic have chance to prove me wrong as well.)


TIER 1
GJalen Green
G/F Cade Cunningham

TIER 2
G Jalen Suggs
C Evan Mobley

TIER 3
F Scottie Barnes
F Jonathan Kuminga

Cade is going to be a good player and all but he plays nothing alike Grant Hill. They score in completely different ways, as Grant Hill used more his quickness and athleticism to score, Cade uses his size, and strength to get baskets. The only thing they have in common is that they're both tall. I think that's a lazy comparison people are making.

Fair & excellent analysis. You prob grew up in the 90s so you watched G Hill live and I didn't. I only saw G Hill highlgihts so IM TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT that this comparison is bad.

So who would you compare Cade to?

You’re not wrong at all to compare him to Hill. I see some of it too. Hill was an elite level athlete while Cade is simply not. But their stride cadence is uncanny. I think Hill is a good comparison. As does the Pistons GM.

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[Basketball_Jones]

Mobley looks more advanced then Bosh was. Bosh just made a big jump in year 2 and the rest was history. Don’t know if Mobley can do the same but he’ll be further along then a rookie Bosh I predict

[simple_jack]

Don’t hate but I think Raps might pass on Suggs if he drops to us.


I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s not particularly great at one thing. He’s a great player but I don’t see superstar/all star

[Young_Buc]

Grant Hill is a tough player for a comp. His first step and passing was rare. Scottie Pippen is the only one who is close (and nearly identical) to Hill.

Jalen Green reminds me in build and quickness to a Uconn version of Ray Allen. Nowhere near the shooter though.

Suggs again reminds me of DRose at Memphis

Haven't seen enough of Mobley but from what I have seen I like him better as a prospect than I liked Bosh out of GT

[PD28]

Cade is going to be a good player and all but he plays nothing alike Grant Hill. They score in completely different ways, as Grant Hill used more his quickness and athleticism to score, Cade uses his size, and strength to get baskets. The only thing they have in common is that they're both tall. I think that's a lazy comparison people are making.

Fair & excellent analysis. You prob grew up in the 90s so you watched G Hill live and I didn't. I only saw G Hill highlgihts so IM TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT that this comparison is bad.

So who would you compare Cade to?

You’re not wrong at all to compare him to Hill. I see some of it too. Hill was an elite level athlete while Cade is simply not. But their stride cadence is uncanny. I think Hill is a good comparison. As does the Pistons GM.

Read on Twitter

I feel like the Pistons franchise is trying to sell Cade as Hill to get some fans to care and show up to games. Hill in his prime, could go over you, around you with a right to left crossover, or go through you with force.

Cade doesn't have the physical tools to go over or through most SFs in the league. Pistons just straight disrespecting Hill lol

[Raps Next GM]

Don’t hate but I think Raps might pass on Suggs if he drops to us.
I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s not particularly great at one thing. He’s a great player but I don’t see superstar/all star

I have similar sense. I think he will be a solid starter but I don’t see him being a star. I could see the Raptors trading out of #4 if he’s the one left.

However I do believe he is more ready to contribute from day 1 than Green and perhaps Mobley too.
For that reason, I wonder though how much self preservation will factor into what Cleveland does: can Koby Altman afford another wasted season with a player like Green who may not be ready to contribute until after another GM has taken over?
Altman might feel pressure to show ownership that winning is coming. I think Suggs and the return on a Sexton deal might buy Altman more time than waiting on Green to develop.
Hopefully this can work in the Raptors’ favour.

[PD28]

Don’t hate but I think Raps might pass on Suggs if he drops to us.


I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s not particularly great at one thing. He’s a great player but I don’t see superstar/all star

I can totally see what you mean. I've seen lots of posters talk about Suggs being our closer/finisher. I guess they don't know that he's not much of a shooter yet and when they do they gonna be real mad.

[RaptorReloaded]

Don’t hate but I think Raps might pass on Suggs if he drops to us.


I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s not particularly great at one thing. He’s a great player but I don’t see superstar/all star

I can totally see what you mean. I've seen lots of posters talk about Suggs being our closer/finisher. I guess they don't know that he's not much of a shooter yet and when they do they gonna be real mad.

I see him as being amazing for our system and a huge contributor to successful regular seasons. But when we're in the playoffs first/second round we are going to run into the same problem we've had before and after Kawhi of not having a closer. I'd rather take the risk on Kuminga. He could be a huge misfire. But this kid is not Bruno.

[Phezmo123]

Don’t hate but I think Raps might pass on Suggs if he drops to us.


I think he’s a bit overrated. He’s not particularly great at one thing. He’s a great player but I don’t see superstar/all star

I can totally see what you mean. I've seen lots of posters talk about Suggs being our closer/finisher. I guess they don't know that he's not much of a shooter yet and when they do they gonna be real mad.

I see him as being amazing for our system and a huge contributor to successful regular seasons. But when we're in the playoffs first/second round we are going to run into the same problem we've had before and after Kawhi of not having a closer. I'd rather take the risk on Kuminga. He could be a huge misfire. But this kid is not Bruno.

To me, Suggs is a retooling move and Kuminga is a rebuilding move. If we choose Kuminga, then we should look to move Siakam/FVV since they’re now entering the prime.

[suntzuballin]

I have feeling that if Jalen green is there at the 4th pick raptors pass on him for kuminga cause he seems like the mold/ type of player masai likes. I really hope I'm wrong.....

[RaptorReloaded]

I can totally see what you mean. I've seen lots of posters talk about Suggs being our closer/finisher. I guess they don't know that he's not much of a shooter yet and when they do they gonna be real mad.

I see him as being amazing for our system and a huge contributor to successful regular seasons. But when we're in the playoffs first/second round we are going to run into the same problem we've had before and after Kawhi of not having a closer. I'd rather take the risk on Kuminga. He could be a huge misfire. But this kid is not Bruno.

To me, Suggs is a retooling move and Kuminga is a rebuilding move. If we choose Kuminga, then we should look to move Siakam/FVV since they’re now entering the prime.

True but it's not like when Kuminga develops, 3 maybe 4 seasons, that any of the core are close to over the hill. He grows with a winner and could reach part of his potential sooner. Being pushed by guys who've already won a chip and were not top lottery picks would be amazing for him.

[NotMyKawhi]

I can totally see what you mean. I've seen lots of posters talk about Suggs being our closer/finisher. I guess they don't know that he's not much of a shooter yet and when they do they gonna be real mad.

I see him as being amazing for our system and a huge contributor to successful regular seasons. But when we're in the playoffs first/second round we are going to run into the same problem we've had before and after Kawhi of not having a closer. I'd rather take the risk on Kuminga. He could be a huge misfire. But this kid is not Bruno.

To me, Suggs is a retooling move and Kuminga is a rebuilding move. If we choose Kuminga, then we should look to move Siakam/FVV since they’re now entering the prime.

Kuminga put up better numbers against better competition playing on a team w better players. He also is already physically built and can handle contact.


I think Kuminga puts up way better numbers on both ends of the floor than Suggs right from jump. Especially if a crap team like the magic take him?

He will average close to 20 and fill all the other stats imo