maternal85 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:maternal85 wrote:
He's an average athlete IN THE NBA at best. Many average guards off the top of my head could run him out the gym. In the NBA he's not staying in front of Trae Young, Booker, Lillard, Curry, etc. 6'4 is hardly great size for a 2 guard at the NBA level. PG Jrue Holiday would body him easily. Harden, Leonard/George,Tatum/Brown, James/Westbrook, etc would eat him up alive. He has to work on his body. Don't let the ESPN hype machine get to you. He's a bigger project/risk than Scottie, but that's subjective I guess.
Yikes...A 6"4 PG (Bigger than Most PGs in the NBA) Who can throw down 360 Windmills + Off the backboard Dunks is not athletic? ...If that is the case what are all these undersized 6 foot PGs to you? Is Lowry not athletic to you just cause hes 6 foot and can barley touch the rim? Lmao you sound like a hater at its finest ....Just cause we grabbed Barnes and your more of a fan of him doesn't mean you needa make up fictional stuff to drive your narrative about Suggs being a bad player....Its not an ESPN Hype Machine either cause most of us actually watch College basketball and Suggs was special on his run...
Its our own eyes telling us he has some special qualities to him i don't need ESPN to tell me anything i have my own eyes and as i see it right now Barnes is very much more raw of a player than Suggs is and its not really that close tbh.....Does Barnes have a higher upside cause of his size? Maybe but Suggs is far more the polished player coming into the NBA with more skills all aroundCalling Suggs an unathletic PG your basically dissing 90 percent of PGs in the league
Oh boy, the ESPN hype machine is kicking in. An average NBA player can throw down windmills with ease. 35 year old Chris Paul is still putting it down with 2 hands, off the bounce with ease. Stop trying to make it seem he extended on that 360 windmill like Vince Carter did. My guys were doing off the backboard dunks in the 11th grade easily, in a game. He's an average athlete at best IN THE NBA. If he was some athlete freak like a D. Rose his rookie year, he would have went 1st overall. Stop it guys.
Lowry can dunk easily. I've seen him do it in the lay up line off the dribble. You see people are comparing NBA players athleticism to that of the guys they play against at their local YMCA. Yes Suggs would be an athletic freak at the YMCA, but not in the NBA. Yes your eyes tells you he's a good NCAA player. But your eyes can't tell you what he'll be in the NBA. AGAIN, Tyler Hansbrough was probably the most polished player entering the draft. Why didn't he go 1st overall ?
You keep bringing up Hansbrough...This isnt about Suggs being just a good College basketball player lol he also has elite skills thats why all year he was considered going top 3 mostly and in the top 4 for sure sometimes even 2nd ....He had an amazing year and showed he has all around skills ....Hansbrough spent all his years in college and when he went into the draft he was 22 years old...You clearly just sound like a Hater....
I like Barnes as well cause he is a Raptor now but im not going to be bias towards him and make up lies for him and say hes already the better player between him and Suggs cause that would be a lie ...In every statistic Suggs has him beat as a basketball player....
Barnes Is an athletic player based on his size and measurements alone but in terms of his speed/quickness hes not elite at all in fact hes very flat footed and has a slow movement to him...Suggs has a better first step and more explosive of a driver to the Rim...
Suggs also averaged the same amount of rebounds and almost the same amount of blocks as a PG being 5 inches shorter...Barnes might be the better player at the end of the day than Suggs but at this very moment Suggs is better at basketball than Barnes is