[Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline

[RaptorPride]

I'm of the opinion Masai does nothing and let's the team sink or swim. Fred and Pascal are young superstars with their best days ahead of them.

This is what I want them to do as well. Unless there's a trade we can make giving up minimal assets for a player we plan to keep longterm.

[mtcan]

I don't know if OG has it in him to be more than a 3rd or 4th option on offense. How many all star appearances does he have by end of his career?

My guess? 0.

He won't see the field goal attempts here to do it. Only chance he does is if we trade him to a team like Detroit (like Grant was) and he puts up 20+ a game randomly one year

That is exactly how I feel about the roster as currently contructed.

Having 5 guys on the roster who all deserve to start and all deserve 15-20 shots a game is great until someone becomes unhappy with their role or the other guys start affecting the development of any one of them.

We know Fred and Pascal are going to take the majority of the shots...and so Gary, OG and Scottie are going to fight for the rest of the shots.

I suppose this is a good problem to have since some teams don't even have 2 or 3 such guys.

Does OG have even another level to take? We may never know as long as he has Fred and Pascal running the offense.

[Raptors Realtor]

From Grange.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/raptors-optimistic-core-look-add-pieces-trade-deadline/






I like his thinking. Let's do something, but don't touch the big 5

I'm not sure why it would be hard to explain?

Would be a good thing to add another lotto pick.

If Dragic plus a first round pick somehow nets a young player with very serious potential, you can think about it but don't force it.

Hard to explain to whom? Masai started the season saying this is a development season, not to get into playoff season.

I assume what he means is that it would be hard to justify not making the playoffs, but also landing low in the lottery... If you're not going to make the playoffs at least get a higher lottery pick or vice versa, but don't land in no man's land.

[WaltFrazier]

I'm not sure why it would be hard to explain?

Would be a good thing to add another lotto pick.

If Dragic plus a first round pick somehow nets a young player with very serious potential, you can think about it but don't force it.

Hard to explain to whom? Masai started the season saying this is a development season, not to get into playoff season.

I assume what he means is that it would be hard to justify not making the playoffs, but also landing low in the lottery... If you're not going to make the playoffs at least get a higher lottery pick or vice versa, but don't land in no man's land.

I'd say also, hard to explain to fanbase why we have a good core but didn't try to improve a flawed roster

[MixxSRC]

MFs should be sellers

[Madhouse]

Hard to explain to whom? Masai started the season saying this is a development season, not to get into playoff season.

I assume what he means is that it would be hard to justify not making the playoffs, but also landing low in the lottery... If you're not going to make the playoffs at least get a higher lottery pick or vice versa, but don't land in no man's land.

I'd say also, hard to explain to fanbase why we have a good core but didn't try to improve a flawed roster

Our core is not good enough to desperately be buyers imo.

[WaltFrazier]

I assume what he means is that it would be hard to justify not making the playoffs, but also landing low in the lottery... If you're not going to make the playoffs at least get a higher lottery pick or vice versa, but don't land in no man's land.

I'd say also, hard to explain to fanbase why we have a good core but didn't try to improve a flawed roster

Our core is not good enough to desperately be buyers imo.

Our bench is bad enough to make it necessary.

But not desperately, intelligently

[Badonkadonk]

I assume what he means is that it would be hard to justify not making the playoffs, but also landing low in the lottery... If you're not going to make the playoffs at least get a higher lottery pick or vice versa, but don't land in no man's land.

I'd say also, hard to explain to fanbase why we have a good core but didn't try to improve a flawed roster

Our core is not good enough to desperately be buyers imo.

Fortunately this FO doesn't do anything desperately.

[KL78192020]

What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.

Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.

This post did not age well, and before you blame it on FVV being missing, the Bulls are missing two starters in Ball/Williams and key bench guys in DJJ and Caruso.

[Inevitable]

I'm of the opinion Masai does nothing and let's the team sink or swim. Fred and Pascal are young superstars with their best days ahead of them.

That would indicate a conflict with Nurse, who's been playing 7 guys (before last night) as an obvious cry for help from the FO

Agreed, there is some sort of miscommunication going on. I don't think the situation is tenable.

[Los_29]

What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.

Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.

This post did not age well, and before you blame it on FVV being missing, the Bulls are missing two starters in Ball/Williams and key bench guys in DJJ and Caruso.

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

[KL78192020]

Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.

This post did not age well, and before you blame it on FVV being missing, the Bulls are missing two starters in Ball/Williams and key bench guys in DJJ and Caruso.

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

wrong.

Bulls missing Ball/Patrick Williams/Caruso

[Los_29]

This post did not age well, and before you blame it on FVV being missing, the Bulls are missing two starters in Ball/Williams and key bench guys in DJJ and Caruso.

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

wrong.

Bulls missing Ball/Patrick Williams/Caruso

All three of them significantly worse than Fred.

[Ref_from_hell]

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

wrong.

Bulls missing Ball/Patrick Williams/Caruso

All three of them significantly worse than Fred.

I put that guy on my ignore list, I recommend you do the same. He posted like 50 times yesterday just trashing Fred. Was flooding my notifications. Insufferable.

Pretty sure that's the person drunk MDenny was complaining about

[pingpongrac]

This post did not age well, and before you blame it on FVV being missing, the Bulls are missing two starters in Ball/Williams and key bench guys in DJJ and Caruso.

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

wrong.

Bulls missing Ball/Patrick Williams/Caruso

None of those players are near as good/important as FVV. It's pretty much a wash when you consider we were also without Birch and on a B2B. The fact that we almost stole that game despite sleepwalking through the first 24 minutes and getting our best offensive player tonight thrown out with 2 minutes left just reinforces the theory that we can definitely compete with a team like the Bulls.

Regular season doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of results, but we've played both games against the Bulls very tight because we shut down their offence late in the game -- and that can easily be repeated. We were missing Siakam in the first game and FVV in this game, so it's safe to assume we'd be a bit better in any future games at full strength too. Maybe we'll see that next week.

[Mattatron]

Living rent free in your head.

It’s actually hilarious how this game proves how right I am and you somehow think I was wrong. I wonder why that is.

Back end of a back to back without Fred and we almost won.

wrong.

Bulls missing Ball/Patrick Williams/Caruso

All three of them significantly worse than Fred.

Disqualified

[douggood]

Latest intel from Jake Fisher this morning; nothing new really.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more?share=other

Myles Turner

In addition to the Blazers, the Mavericks, Raptors, Knicks, Hornets and Kings have been mentioned as Turner suitors. The majority of rival executives contacted by B/R have described the Pacers' as demanding far more—multiple first-round picks

Raptors

called San Antonio regarding Jakob Poeltl, as first noted by Marc Stein, but the Spurs have fielded numerous calls on the 26-year-old center and are seeking a strong return in any deal. The Raptors have also been mentioned as a possible Daniel Theis destination.

Toronto has been circling centers for some time. There were discussions regarding a Sabonis-Pascal Siakam swap, but those negotiations stalled, sources said. The Raptors were closely monitoring Andre Drummond's situation in Cleveland prior to last season's deadline, and were lurking in the background of Jarrett Allen's free agency last summer.

[Sandman88]

Latest intel from Jake Fisher this morning; nothing new really.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more?share=other

Myles Turner

In addition to the Blazers, the Mavericks, Raptors, Knicks, Hornets and Kings have been mentioned as Turner suitors. The majority of rival executives contacted by B/R have described the Pacers' as demanding far more—multiple first-round picks

Raptors

called San Antonio regarding Jakob Poeltl, as first noted by Marc Stein, but the Spurs have fielded numerous calls on the 26-year-old center and are seeking a strong return in any deal. The Raptors have also been mentioned as a possible Daniel Theis destination.

Toronto has been circling centers for some time. There were discussions regarding a Sabonis-Pascal Siakam swap, but those negotiations stalled, sources said. The Raptors were closely monitoring Andre Drummond's situation in Cleveland prior to last season's deadline, and were lurking in the background of Jarrett Allen's free agency last summer.

Always lurking, never agressive

[HumbleRen]

Latest intel from Jake Fisher this morning; nothing new really.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more?share=other

Myles Turner

In addition to the Blazers, the Mavericks, Raptors, Knicks, Hornets and Kings have been mentioned as Turner suitors. The majority of rival executives contacted by B/R have described the Pacers' as demanding far more—multiple first-round picks

Raptors

called San Antonio regarding Jakob Poeltl, as first noted by Marc Stein, but the Spurs have fielded numerous calls on the 26-year-old center and are seeking a strong return in any deal. The Raptors have also been mentioned as a possible Daniel Theis destination.

Toronto has been circling centers for some time. There were discussions regarding a Sabonis-Pascal Siakam swap, but those negotiations stalled, sources said. The Raptors were closely monitoring Andre Drummond's situation in Cleveland prior to last season's deadline, and were lurking in the background of Jarrett Allen's free agency last summer.

Always lurking, never agressive

the motto with this team's approach with our bench units

[Madhouse]

Latest intel from Jake Fisher this morning; nothing new really.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952819-nba-head-rumor-intel-latest-on-collins-turner-mccollum-grant-more?share=other

Myles Turner

In addition to the Blazers, the Mavericks, Raptors, Knicks, Hornets and Kings have been mentioned as Turner suitors. The majority of rival executives contacted by B/R have described the Pacers' as demanding far more—multiple first-round picks

Raptors

called San Antonio regarding Jakob Poeltl, as first noted by Marc Stein, but the Spurs have fielded numerous calls on the 26-year-old center and are seeking a strong return in any deal. The Raptors have also been mentioned as a possible Daniel Theis destination.

Toronto has been circling centers for some time. There were discussions regarding a Sabonis-Pascal Siakam swap, but those negotiations stalled, sources said. The Raptors were closely monitoring Andre Drummond's situation in Cleveland prior to last season's deadline, and were lurking in the background of Jarrett Allen's free agency last summer.

Lol, nothing will happen.

The Raptors don't want to break up their core and the asking prices for Poeltl and Turner will be too high for their liking.