Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"
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If BC was still the GM, Masai would have fleeced him. Lowry + Svi for Maxey + FRP.
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YogurtProducer wrote:Los_29 wrote:Bull-E wrote:Everyone really needs to take themselves back to the summer of 2021 to know why Kyle for Maxey should have been a no brainer for Philly. The man affected winning. I'm sure all of the 76ers, Heat and Lakers would have pulled the trigger in retrospect, having fell well short of expectations.
Old heads will remember the 1992 Blue Jays, who traded a future MVP and 5-time all star (Jeff Kent) for a few months of David Cone. No regrets, Champions don't have regrets.
Lowry would have made them far better that year, there is no question about that. With Lowry they likely get past Atlanta. Then the Bucks would've been a competitive series. Probably would still favour the Bucks though as Giannis is just on another level and you got excellent supporting pieces in Jrue, Middleton and Brook. I think ultimately they made the right decision as there was no guarantee Lowry would've re-signed with them and he's shown his age the past year while on the Heat. Lowry isn't an impact player anymore. Maxey obviously has his limitations but he can carve out a nice role in this league as a scorer.
But when do you take a risk then? If you never take a risk, you will never, ever, ever win in this league. How much closer than going to 7 games to make the ECF do you honestly get?
So instead of doing Maxey/Thubuller for Lowry they ended up doing Simmons/Curry/2 first for Harden (which they still could have done).
But Lowry/Green/Simmons/Harris/Embiid is easily blow-for-blow as good as Holiday/Middleton/Tucker/Giannis/Lopez, and a year later they could have been Lowry/Green/Harden/Harris/Embiid which would be still be really **** good (and IMO, Lowry > Maxey as your 4th or 5th best player, up until probably this season). If you have a LEGIT 2 year championship window you just have to go for it.
Maxey is great, I love him as a player, but you don't not trade a guy who you play 13mpg against Atlanta and give up a real championship run just so 2 years later he finally starts playing well.
That's fair. Yeah I can see where you're coming from. With Philly it actually kind of makes sense to go for it considering the health of Embiid. Lowry would have made them better for the playoffs and at least would have given them a fighting chance. If they lost Maxey they can always go out in the free agent market and pick up guys like Sexton who garnered very little interest in the open market and does a lot of the same things that Maxey does.
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YogurtProducer wrote:raincityraptors wrote:I wanted Precious more than Maxey. I was wrong.
Same. No one would have thought he would be THIS good though. Not even the biggest Sixers homer would have thought two years later he would have been averaging 24ppg on 65.2TS%. Not one.
He won't continue this pace though and he's still a sieve on the defensive side of the ball. Maxey was better than Precious last year and he's better than him this year. You have to take chances in this league though. Precious' upside is higher than Maxey's if he can figure it all out. Whether he figures it out remains to be seen. But you take that chance because your ultimate goal is to win the championship and if a guy like Precious hits, he hits big. Look how important athletic, defensive-minded wings were in the playoffs last year. That seems to be the way the league is heading. The more wings you have who can handle and shoot the ball, defend every position, the better your team will be. Players like Maxey became less and less important as the playoffs progressed. If you can't defend your position, great teams will take advantage of that.
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Don’t forget the blocks he had! How is this guy playing defense too, Nurse is a genius
2019 Eastern Conference All Stars
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
Derozan
Lowry
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Van Vleet
Delon Wright
Lebron
Embiid
There are only 2 teams in the league that rank in the top 6 in offensive and defensive efficiency: the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors.
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Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
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what a fail lol not trading lowry for maxey.
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Los_29 wrote:
It all worked out in the end. We got Achiuwa who I think has more potential than Maxey. But wow, Sixers could've won a title last year with Lowry.
Is the jury still out on Precious having more potential than Maxey, or can we draw a conclusion yet?
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KL78192020 wrote:what a fail lol not trading lowry for maxey.
I don’t understand this. How is it a fail? He wasn’t offered reportedly.
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Duffman100 wrote:Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
Why? Because he wasn't a very good player. Just follow the OPs posts through this thread to learn that. Pay no attention to how he's playing.
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WaltFrazier wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
Why? Because he wasn't a very good player. Just follow the OPs posts through this thread to learn that. Pay no attention to how he's playing.
Windhorst is one of the most plugged in guys in the league if he said he wasn't on the table I'll believe him.
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Zeno wrote:KL78192020 wrote:what a fail lol not trading lowry for maxey.
I don’t understand this. How is it a fail? He wasn’t offered reportedly.
The bigger fail is the Sixers thinking George Hill was an acceptable plan B. Real chance they win it all with Kyle that season.
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Los_29 wrote:Canadian6ersFan wrote:Los_29 wrote:It all worked out in the end. We got Achiuwa who I think has more potential than Maxey. But wow, Sixers could've won a title last year with Lowry.
Oh I don't know about that one, chief...
Really? How so?
It was a tough call for sure, to say which one was better
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WaltFrazier wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
Why? Because he wasn't a very good player. Just follow the OPs posts through this thread to learn that. Pay no attention to how he's playing.
Because of the deals that were reported to be on the table?
Lakers refused to include THT but Philly was willing to give up Maxey? None of it makes sense.
The offers for Lowry seemingly were just meh role players.
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Still kind of odd he wasn't selected for Team USA, guess they wanted more size but they could have certainly used his shooting and scoring ability.
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The sad thing is even if Maxey wasn't on the table, we'd have been much better now with Thybulle than Achiuwa. (Vaccination foibles notwithstanding)
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WaltFrazier wrote:The sad thing is even if Maxey wasn't on the table, we'd have been much better now with Thybulle than Achiuwa. (Vaccination foibles notwithstanding)
Yeah really didnn't see Thybulle being able to shoot. I wonder if that continues
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Duffman100 wrote:Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
I didn't think Maxey would be this good. But there's also no indication that he was actually offered. It's been strongly suggested that Masai asked for 2 young prospects or picks, but every report afterwards has always said Masai and Morey were miles apart.
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brownbobcat wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Would have loved Maxey but I firmly believe he wasn't even on the table for the Lowry trade. Why would he have been?
I didn't think Maxey would be this good. But there's also no indication that he was actually offered. It's been strongly suggested that Masai asked for 2 young prospects or picks, but every report afterwards have always said Masai and Morey were miles apart.
Yeah, it's ridiculous to call anything a 'fail' when you have zero idea what the actual negotiations were.
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Duffman100 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:The sad thing is even if Maxey wasn't on the table, we'd have been much better now with Thybulle than Achiuwa. (Vaccination foibles notwithstanding)
Yeah really didnn't see Thybulle being able to shoot. I wonder if that continues
Just think, he could have been our first defensive acquisition who actually improved his shooting

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