Official Immanuel Quickley Thread

[HumbleRen]

Some positives and warning signs that I’ve seen after seeing all of his possessions with us again.

Let’s start with the positives.

- the pull up threat is REAL, teams will adjust but so far it’s better than advertised

- he’s a positive defender, I think he’s slightly average on ball but great off the ball

- elite touch, we should not discourage him from taking floaters, he’s currently 6th best in the league at it

- a fantastic movement shooter with an insane motor. He instinctively knows how to create space on the floor with his movements when off the ball

-great at pushing the pace


Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)


All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

[anotherhomer]

Some positives and warning signs that I’ve seen after seeing all of his possessions with us again.

Let’s start with the positives.

- the pull up threat is REAL, teams will adjust but so far it’s better than advertised

- he’s a positive defender, I think he’s slightly average on ball but great off the ball

- elite touch, we should not discourage him from taking floaters, he’s currently 6th best in the league at it

- a fantastic movement shooter with an insane motor. He instinctively knows how to create space on the floor with his movements when off the ball

-great at pushing the pace


Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)


All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

I'm not expecting him to be a star but being an above average pg with spacing is a real win already

[Brinbe]

Could always be ancillery all star one day presuming we're a good contending team in a few years but it's fine if he doesn't get to that level. He's a good, young two-way player who plays to Scottie's strengths (And vice versa) and that's already a win.

If we get a few more guys like that, like say an Okongwu or Jalen Smith for example, who blossoms in a larger role and offers things we lack as a team, we're in good shape.

[TDots97]

He screams future All-NBA guard, I don't think people realize it yet.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)

All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

I know this will continue to be a thing, but I don't think it's fair to Quickley to draw the side-by-side comparison to Maxey. Maxey is literally the fastest guy in the league with the ball in his hands, whereas Quickley has always been more of a quick-release shooter. For Quickley's development, we're not going to want him knifing into the paint at will. He's like a 180lbs, maybe. It's only going to end up in injuries. We're going to want him to add volume to his pull-up shooting, both midrange and from 3, and some playmaking.

The high end of this kind of player is Steph and Jamal Murray, the more reasonable outcome is like Tyler Herro. The low end is what he has been so far, a bench gunner. But as ballhandlers these guys are looking for their jump shot, not rim pressure.

[HumbleRen]

Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)

All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

I know this will continue to be a thing, but I don't think it's fair to Quickley to draw the side-by-side comparison to Maxey. Maxey is literally the fastest guy in the league with the ball in his hands, whereas Quickley has always been more of a quick-release shooter. For Quickley's development, we're not going to want him knifing into the paint at will. He's like a 180lbs, maybe. It's only going to end up in injuries. We're going to want him to add volume to his pull-up shooting, both midrange and from 3, and some playmaking.

The high end of this kind of player is Steph and Jamal Murray, the more reasonable outcome is like Tyler Herro. The low end is what he has been so far, a bench gunner. But as ballhandlers these guys are looking for their jump shot, not rim pressure.

I don’t think it’s fair either but I’m just highlighting what Quickley needs to get better at to get to the next level.

Just even doubling his rim attempts would be a significant boom to our offence. I think it’s achievable too due to his touch and the fact that he’s able to get near the rim at will. Doesn’t have to be this year or even next year but he’s going to need it in his bag.

I personally think he’s already near Herro’s level with starter minutes.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Herro has a deeper bag, and a lot of playoff reps. The Raptors have to establish IQ as that guy first, and then he'll start to get like, more b.s. calls and stuff to add to his FTAs.

One aspect of both RJ and IQ that doesn't get enough attention is that they both have defensive fundamentals baked into them from Thibs. They might not always achieve good outcomes, but they won't cheat on effort. The guy has only ever given a free pass to his primary options (Rose and now Brunson). On offense he just wants people staying in their lane. Darko is a development guy. He convinced Bane to improve versatility as a creator. He was trying to run offense through Precious. I think we'll see both on them double their assist totals by the end of next season. The harder stuff for young players to get is team defense, and they had literally the best coach in the league to teach them that. Now they're going to get someone that writes papers on the pick and roll. I'd be shocked if they're both stagnant on offense by next year. They might not improve in FG efficiency because the demands in this line-up on scoring is going to be overwhelming once Siakam is traded, but they'll have more versatility as playmakers.

[manjusaka]

I want him to keep shooting with high efficiency. Scottie will be the main creator. IQ can be the floor spacer and the go to guy, in Dame’s fashion would be awesome.

[niQ]

You just gotta love IQ's energy/vibe (period).

I look forward to the future IQ & Scottie joint celebrations...they're gonna be stuff we look back at fondly as fans.

I can't wait for the vibes.

We got this for now

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[Madhouse]

Quickley can average 20/4/4 on 60% TS for the rest of the season.

I think next season he takes a big step with a full offseason.

[niQ]

Man, life changes fast. Feels like just the other day Darko said 'It's not like we have Steph Curry sitting on the bench.'
Now we have this flamethrower hit 5s vs the Grizz.

It's not always going to be pretty, ie: cold streaks, or even just the first quarter of that game, but I'm actually interested in tuning in now. Like they say, Enjoy the ride!

[PushDaRock]

Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)

All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

I know this will continue to be a thing, but I don't think it's fair to Quickley to draw the side-by-side comparison to Maxey. Maxey is literally the fastest guy in the league with the ball in his hands, whereas Quickley has always been more of a quick-release shooter. For Quickley's development, we're not going to want him knifing into the paint at will. He's like a 180lbs, maybe. It's only going to end up in injuries. We're going to want him to add volume to his pull-up shooting, both midrange and from 3, and some playmaking.

The high end of this kind of player is Steph and Jamal Murray, the more reasonable outcome is like Tyler Herro. The low end is what he has been so far, a bench gunner. But as ballhandlers these guys are looking for their jump shot, not rim pressure.

For him to really take the superstar leap, I think he's either going to need to up his volume on 3's even more and hit at a similar percentage or really master the floater to the point where he's shooting KD, SGA percentages in that mid paint area. His FTR is already higher than Maxey's so just with more touches and minutes, getting about 6 FT's attempt a game should be doable pretty comfortably.

Smaller guards constantly attacking the rim gets them banged up and a lot more wear and tear on the body. FVV in his first 4 years relentlessly attacked the rim where he was terrible finishing and would constantly get bumps and bruises from doing it. He eventually adjusted his game and picked his spots a lot more which resulted in at least passable finishing at the rim his last couple years here. IQ can still finish fairly well at the rim for a guard (65% career) but he just really picks his spots when he does.

[alpngso]

IQ comparison to Maxey is unwarranted. They look similar and have a pull up game.

But Maxey might be the fastest guy I've seen from end to end since John Wall and Westbrook from guard position. IQ is not that.

[Yeezus_]

Hoping the playmaking takes a step forward next season.

[Kingsway_fan]

Some positives and warning signs that I’ve seen after seeing all of his possessions with us again.

Let’s start with the positives.

- the pull up threat is REAL, teams will adjust but so far it’s better than advertised

- he’s a positive defender, I think he’s slightly average on ball but great off the ball

- elite touch, we should not discourage him from taking floaters, he’s currently 6th best in the league at it

- a fantastic movement shooter with an insane motor. He instinctively knows how to create space on the floor with his movements when off the ball

-great at pushing the pace


Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)


All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

Yes. Good summary. I think he will be best pg in franchise history... yes, way better than Kyle.

[OakleyDokely]

I think 20 ppg is the lower end of his upside. Just based on his role here alone, I think 23-25 is a lot more likely. He's going to be a big part of the offense.

But more important than ppg, it will be his efficiency that will determine whether he's just an average, good, or great scorer.

[Duffman100]

IQ comparison to Maxey is unwarranted. They look similar and have a pull up game.

But Maxey might be the fastest guy I've seen from end to end since John Wall and Westbrook from guard position. IQ is not that.

He's not Maxey speed (elite) but he's still pretty damn fast.

[BetterCallSaul]

Some positives and warning signs that I’ve seen after seeing all of his possessions with us again.

Let’s start with the positives.

- the pull up threat is REAL, teams will adjust but so far it’s better than advertised

- he’s a positive defender, I think he’s slightly average on ball but great off the ball

- elite touch, we should not discourage him from taking floaters, he’s currently 6th best in the league at it

- a fantastic movement shooter with an insane motor. He instinctively knows how to create space on the floor with his movements when off the ball

-great at pushing the pace


Some warning signs.

- he’s good at driving but he does not get to the rim enough, Maxey gets there 4X more than him on a per game basis

- he’s a slightly average to above average passer for his position, doesn’t seem to be aware of how much passing lanes are open to him due to his shooting gravity (he has a lot of development to do as a playmaker with the ball in his hands)


All in all, I think we got a guard that can average 20/5/5 in his sleep in his prime. For him to be a multi time all star ? That all depends on his development in finishing at the rim and playmaking.

I think IQ is TOO aware of the passing lanes and options available to him. His head is constantly on a swivel and sometimes he makes that clear obvious, easy pass and other times he seems caught between two minds. He seems to be a really high IQ player and not selfish at all. It seems like he's always looking to see if the floor (his teammates) develops the way he envisions before looking for his shot.
I think Darko told him to just focus on his scoring and be aggressive because he knows that once IQ starts commanding scouting reports like he can, then the floor will start shifting in his favour and the passing game will slow down for him.

[BetterCallSaul]

He screams future All-NBA guard, I don't think people realize it yet.

Would be lovely. Not sure about All NBA. But does Calipari/Kentucky ever **** around and not deliver on these types of guards?

[seanbig]

Dudes three and floater are nice

I’ve only seen him hit a bank shot/layup on the right side- the rest have been horrible misses aka Fred style leading to a transition bucket