MEDIC wrote:Why not have both?
That's the dream
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MEDIC wrote:Why not have both?
MEDIC wrote:I believe they view Chomche as a future 1st round pick that they have stashed away.
He has that much potential. He is getting closer to a "can't miss.prospect" in my mind..
TimeForChange wrote:
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Boogie! wrote:TimeForChange wrote:
see this is what the **** i'm talking about. when battle was with the big club, he was shooting 40% from 3. Now he's in the g league where the competition is lesser, he's killing it shooting 59%. This is why the gradey dick situation concerns me. This guy went to the gleague and shot 27%... he got worse. I'm really hoping he pans out as a shooter, but this is exactly what nba players should be doing in the gleague is dominating.
Yeezus_ wrote:Boogie! wrote:TimeForChange wrote:
see this is what the **** i'm talking about. when battle was with the big club, he was shooting 40% from 3. Now he's in the g league where the competition is lesser, he's killing it shooting 59%. This is why the gradey dick situation concerns me. This guy went to the gleague and shot 27%... he got worse. I'm really hoping he pans out as a shooter, but this is exactly what nba players should be doing in the gleague is dominating.
There’s lots of articles that speak about how players perform worse in the g league and its not correlated in the NBA.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:. And in terms of volume Gradey is easily one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
MEDIC wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:. And in terms of volume Gradey is easily one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
I have never looked at the stats, but that is surprising. Definitely doesn't match the eye test.
I can't figure out how he misses so many wide open catch and shoot 3's. I have more faith in RJ's C&S wide open 3 point shot.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:MEDIC wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:. And in terms of volume Gradey is easily one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
I have never looked at the stats, but that is surprising. Definitely doesn't match the eye test.
I can't figure out how he misses so many wide open catch and shoot 3's. I have more faith in RJ's C&S wide open 3 point shot.
So for reference I'll use everyone with more than 3.5 spot up attempts, which is top 80 in volume. Gradey is 4.2 attempts, and his 83.7th percentile is only behind Trey Murphy, Derrick White, Norm Powell, Grayson Allen, Malik Beasley, NAW, Harrison Barnes, MPJ, Reaves and Boucher. So 11th out of 80 highest volume spot up attempts. C&S is not the same as spot up, though. But again, 38.2% on C&S on his volume is in the range of very good results. Someone said he misses wide open threes and then when he misses them, which is going to happen more than half the time for even the best shooters, the eye test is biased to the misses and confirms the false opinion.
MEDIC wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:MEDIC wrote:
I have never looked at the stats, but that is surprising. Definitely doesn't match the eye test.
I can't figure out how he misses so many wide open catch and shoot 3's. I have more faith in RJ's C&S wide open 3 point shot.
So for reference I'll use everyone with more than 3.5 spot up attempts, which is top 80 in volume. Gradey is 4.2 attempts, and his 83.7th percentile is only behind Trey Murphy, Derrick White, Norm Powell, Grayson Allen, Malik Beasley, NAW, Harrison Barnes, MPJ, Reaves and Boucher. So 11th out of 80 highest volume spot up attempts. C&S is not the same as spot up, though. But again, 38.2% on C&S on his volume is in the range of very good results. Someone said he misses wide open threes and then when he misses them, which is going to happen more than half the time for even the best shooters, the eye test is biased to the misses and confirms the false opinion.
I understand the difference. That's why I made them.seperate points. I really haven't been paying as much attention to spot up.
When Battle or even Ochai shoots a wide open 3, I automatically think it's probably going in.....and it usually does.
There have been far too many games where GD misses 3 or more C&S threes with a defender 10 feet away. You read the game thread & there are often comments about it. I am not the only one noticing it.
He is shooting sub 35% overall from 3 on the season, which is terrible for someone that is considered to be an elite shooter.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Tripod wrote:MEDIC wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
So for reference I'll use everyone with more than 3.5 spot up attempts, which is top 80 in volume. Gradey is 4.2 attempts, and his 83.7th percentile is only behind Trey Murphy, Derrick White, Norm Powell, Grayson Allen, Malik Beasley, NAW, Harrison Barnes, MPJ, Reaves and Boucher. So 11th out of 80 highest volume spot up attempts. C&S is not the same as spot up, though. But again, 38.2% on C&S on his volume is in the range of very good results. Someone said he misses wide open threes and then when he misses them, which is going to happen more than half the time for even the best shooters, the eye test is biased to the misses and confirms the false opinion.
I understand the difference. That's why I made them.seperate points. I really haven't been paying as much attention to spot up.
When Battle or even Ochai shoots a wide open 3, I automatically think it's probably going in.....and it usually does.
There have been far too many games where GD misses 3 or more C&S threes with a defender 10 feet away. You read the game thread & there are often comments about it. I am not the only one noticing it.
He is shooting sub 35% overall from 3 on the season, which is terrible for someone that is considered to be an elite shooter.
Because when Ochai misses, few mention it.
When Gradey misses it, Boogie and a few others mentions it EVERY time....then go on a tirade about it later on.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
dagger wrote:On Gradey Dick on the 905. I watched a couple of his games and that 905 team was nothing like what they are playing this season. There was no ball movement, no system, just a couple of guys like Freeman-Liberty hunting shots, Gradey would occasionally get a shot in less than ideal situations. This year's regular crew on that team, like Omoruyi, Rhoden and Lawson, are playing within the system. Then having multiple NBA guys in and out of the lineup also helps maintain the system play. It's a virtuous circle that is helping everyone develop.