2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

[TNRaps4life]

Bailey is a pure scorer. The fact he's scoring tough buckets is a positive, not negative. He'll get easier shots in NBA. It's fine if 1 of your 5 players on the court has a score first mentality as long as he's good at it, especially at that size. No opinion on his defense yet.

He plays pretty good 1on 1 defense. He sometimes over helps and then loses his man. Overall a willing defender. He is a top 3 pick. He is the most scrutinized player in college and only 18 years old.. a lot of room to grow.

[TNRaps4life]

39 points on 55% as the only option on the floor and people still tryna discredit his skill lol

Exactly when the other players cannot even score.

[DeKobe DeBryant]

I went from having Bailey as my #1 last year to cooling off on him, and now I'm back to having him firmly in the top 3.

Feel like he's being overthought. The handle is shaky and the rim pressure is definitely rough, but he's not a finished product at all. He's still athletic, so he'll give you dunks off cuts and transition. He comes out the gate as an big shotmaker. People have used the MPJ comparison to downplay him but that just shows that his floor is still a good player. The fact that he's showed a lot of defensive upside, and a drive for rebounding and shot blocking is huge.

You take him, you work on his handle all summer and you get a franchise changing talent.

[DeKobe DeBryant]

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That might be the most difficult 39 I've ever seen someone score before. Literally nothing was easy, it's crazy how little space he creates for himself, there's always a defender contesting every shot he takes. Impressive in one sense that he is making that many difficult shots in a single game and concerning in another.

Difficult is the wrong word. He doesn't create space and the shots are contested, but he doesn't look uncomfortable taking any of these shots. They're the shots he looks for. It's a thin line because it really comes down to how good of a shooter he is, and if he can make those consistently. Think KD in the last few years. Older and doesn't have much explosion or space creation, but can still shoot over everyone and hit shots from his spots.

[DG88]

That was Ace's best game in terms of handle and putting pressure at the rim. Showed some wiggle that was not there to start the year. Let's see if he can build on this game.

[HumbleRen]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

He’s like one of the worst downhill prospects of all time when it comes to wing players that went top 3 in a draft. Averaging less than 1 assist is disgusting, there’s no excuse for it. His FT’s are very shaky and he just doesn’t make the game easy for himself.

I like that he’s able to make tough shots and he has the willingness to play some very good defence but man. If we do get him, I see him being the RJ replacement in terms of having a wing who can actually guard and spread the floor for Scottie and everyone else on the roster. The issue is, I don’t think he solves the #1 option issue because of those serious red flags but baby steps I guess.

I personally think his ceiling is being a 3rd or 4th guy on a contender.

[Son Goku 25]

Just from highlights he has improved and looks to be getting the ball more outside and making a move. I can see Masai and Bobby liking him and thinking once he improves his handles he can be elite.

The more I think about it he's a really good fit beside Scottie.

Still need help but we're making progress that way. Let's hope we get top 3 pick.

[TNRaps4life]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

He’s like one of the worst downhill prospects of all time when it comes to wing players that went top 3 in a draft. Averaging less than 1 assist is disgusting, there’s no excuse for it. His FT’s are very shaky and he just doesn’t make the game easy for himself.

I like that he’s able to make tough shots and he has the willingness to play some very good defence but man. If we do get him, I see him being the RJ replacement in terms of having a wing who can actually guard and spread the floor for Scottie and everyone else on the roster. The issue is, I don’t think he solves the #1 option issue because of those serious red flags but baby steps I guess.

I personally think his ceiling is being a 3rd or 4th guy on a contender.

Watch a full Rutgers game and you will understand. Harper gets 90 % of his assists from Ace Bailey. Most of Bailey's are from Harper.

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[TNRaps4life]

That was Ace's best game in terms of handle and putting pressure at the rim. Showed some wiggle that was not there to start the year. Let's see if he can build on this game.

Because Harper was sick. This is similar to his high school days.

High school

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6 assts. People over scrutinizing this 18 yr old. Gms at the gym most nights.

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KD on Ace Bailey. Ball knows ball

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[Jstock12]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

[RoteSchroder]

He would easily be averaging a triple double if we had even just some more competent players on the roster.

Calling on Scase to read this last page.

See what I mean with the Bargnani excuses? Everyone’s averaging a triple double, if only they had better teammates.

This line of reasoning comes up every month on realgm for everyone’s favorite player.

[PushDaRock]

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That might be the most difficult 39 I've ever seen someone score before. Literally nothing was easy, it's crazy how little space he creates for himself, there's always a defender contesting every shot he takes. Impressive in one sense that he is making that many difficult shots in a single game and concerning in another.

Difficult is the wrong word. He doesn't create space and the shots are contested, but he doesn't look uncomfortable taking any of these shots. They're the shots he looks for. It's a thin line because it really comes down to how good of a shooter he is, and if he can make those consistently. Think KD in the last few years. Older and doesn't have much explosion or space creation, but can still shoot over everyone and hit shots from his spots.

Not sure how "difficult" is the wrong word. Just because he's comfortable taking them doesn't mean they are not difficult shots. I've already said the same thing. His outcome is almost entirely reliant on how great of a shooter he becomes.

[PushDaRock]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

He’s like one of the worst downhill prospects of all time when it comes to wing players that went top 3 in a draft. Averaging less than 1 assist is disgusting, there’s no excuse for it. His FT’s are very shaky and he just doesn’t make the game easy for himself.

I like that he’s able to make tough shots and he has the willingness to play some very good defence but man. If we do get him, I see him being the RJ replacement in terms of having a wing who can actually guard and spread the floor for Scottie and everyone else on the roster. The issue is, I don’t think he solves the #1 option issue because of those serious red flags but baby steps I guess.

I personally think his ceiling is being a 3rd or 4th guy on a contender.

I would be fine drafting him as well but some of the projections are just far fetched and expecting all of his weaknesses to turn into strengths.

[PushDaRock]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

He’s like one of the worst downhill prospects of all time when it comes to wing players that went top 3 in a draft. Averaging less than 1 assist is disgusting, there’s no excuse for it. His FT’s are very shaky and he just doesn’t make the game easy for himself.

I like that he’s able to make tough shots and he has the willingness to play some very good defence but man. If we do get him, I see him being the RJ replacement in terms of having a wing who can actually guard and spread the floor for Scottie and everyone else on the roster. The issue is, I don’t think he solves the #1 option issue because of those serious red flags but baby steps I guess.

I personally think his ceiling is being a 3rd or 4th guy on a contender.

Watch a full Rutgers game and you will understand. Harper gets 90 % of his assists from Ace Bailey. Most of Bailey's are from Harper.

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well it must be true if realiest231 says so

[Clutch0z24]

The truth is that you don't want a guy like Bailey being the star player of your team. Within the context of a winning team he's a guy who you'd ideally have as a 3rd or 4th option. He can be a good and valuable player in the right situation, but if you're hoping he's going to be a guy who can be your #1 option on a championship team, I think you're fooling yourself.

Can't write a player off who has not even played in the NBA yet....How many people on this board thought Scottie Barnes after watching his college season and how slow he looked thought he would be ROY? Not many....A player like Bailey if he develops a few things (That are teachable) does have superstar potential....Because he already does the things every star player needs and thats shot creation and tough shot making at a pretty elite level....Everything else he "Can't" do right now can be developed over time....They are not stuff he can't unlock....Can't teach his size/speed/shot making ability....I still like Harper over Bailey but i deff think Ace could be a star in the NBA in the future.

[Psubs]

I like Ace. I’d be pretty happy if we landed him but man does he have some red flags.

He’s like one of the worst downhill prospects of all time when it comes to wing players that went top 3 in a draft. Averaging less than 1 assist is disgusting, there’s no excuse for it. His FT’s are very shaky and he just doesn’t make the game easy for himself.

I like that he’s able to make tough shots and he has the willingness to play some very good defence but man. If we do get him, I see him being the RJ replacement in terms of having a wing who can actually guard and spread the floor for Scottie and everyone else on the roster. The issue is, I don’t think he solves the #1 option issue because of those serious red flags but baby steps I guess.

I personally think his ceiling is being a 3rd or 4th guy on a contender.

I still like his Rashard Lewis comp. If he grows another inch he'd be Rashard Lewis in Jabari Smith Jr's body.

[Reeko]

The truth is that you don't want a guy like Bailey being the star player of your team. Within the context of a winning team he's a guy who you'd ideally have as a 3rd or 4th option. He can be a good and valuable player in the right situation, but if you're hoping he's going to be a guy who can be your #1 option on a championship team, I think you're fooling yourself.

Can't write a player off who has not even played in the NBA yet....How many people on this board thought Scottie Barnes after watching his college season and how slow he looked thought he would be ROY? Not many....A player like Bailey if he develops a few things (That are teachable) does have superstar potential....Because he already does the things every star player needs and thats shot creation and tough shot making at a pretty elite level....Everything else he "Can't" do right now can be developed over time....They are not stuff he can't unlock....Can't teach his size/speed/shot making ability....I still like Harper over Bailey but i deff think Ace could be a star in the NBA in the future.

I’m not writing him off, I just don’t think that he’s going to be a 1st option type.

[Psubs]

The truth is that you don't want a guy like Bailey being the star player of your team. Within the context of a winning team he's a guy who you'd ideally have as a 3rd or 4th option. He can be a good and valuable player in the right situation, but if you're hoping he's going to be a guy who can be your #1 option on a championship team, I think you're fooling yourself.

Can't write a player off who has not even played in the NBA yet....How many people on this board thought Scottie Barnes after watching his college season and how slow he looked thought he would be ROY? Not many....A player like Bailey if he develops a few things (That are teachable) does have superstar potential....Because he already does the things every star player needs and thats shot creation and tough shot making at a pretty elite level....Everything else he "Can't" do right now can be developed over time....They are not stuff he can't unlock....Can't teach his size/speed/shot making ability....I still like Harper over Bailey but i deff think Ace could be a star in the NBA in the future.

I’m not writing him off, I just don’t think that he’s going to be a 1st option type.

Though he might be a clutch #2a like Kyrie. Kyrie couldn't get his teams to the playoffs but is a great 2a.

[ArthurVandelay]

The truth is that you don't want a guy like Bailey being the star player of your team. Within the context of a winning team he's a guy who you'd ideally have as a 3rd or 4th option. He can be a good and valuable player in the right situation, but if you're hoping he's going to be a guy who can be your #1 option on a championship team, I think you're fooling yourself.

Can't write a player off who has not even played in the NBA yet....How many people on this board thought Scottie Barnes after watching his college season and how slow he looked thought he would be ROY? Not many....A player like Bailey if he develops a few things (That are teachable) does have superstar potential....Because he already does the things every star player needs and thats shot creation and tough shot making at a pretty elite level....Everything else he "Can't" do right now can be developed over time....They are not stuff he can't unlock....Can't teach his size/speed/shot making ability....I still like Harper over Bailey but i deff think Ace could be a star in the NBA in the future.

I’m not writing him off, I just don’t think that he’s going to be a 1st option type.

That isn’t how the Raptors want to play though. Under Darko they play a team passing game. The ball will find scorers. But when they need to create a bucket, Ace can get his shot. This whole first option stuff is leftover from the Nurse era. One guy get their shot and everyone else crash the glass to win the shot attempt battle.

[Psubs]

Can't write a player off who has not even played in the NBA yet....How many people on this board thought Scottie Barnes after watching his college season and how slow he looked thought he would be ROY? Not many....A player like Bailey if he develops a few things (That are teachable) does have superstar potential....Because he already does the things every star player needs and thats shot creation and tough shot making at a pretty elite level....Everything else he "Can't" do right now can be developed over time....They are not stuff he can't unlock....Can't teach his size/speed/shot making ability....I still like Harper over Bailey but i deff think Ace could be a star in the NBA in the future.

I’m not writing him off, I just don’t think that he’s going to be a 1st option type.

That isn’t how the Raptors want to play though. Under Darko they play a team passing game. The ball will find scorers. But when they need to create a bucket, Ace can get his shot. This whole first option stuff is leftover from the Nurse era. One guy get their shot and everyone else crash the glass to win the shot attempt battle.

Well it worked, ... right?!?!?

Boston just won with Tatum and Brown getting theirs as usual and the others spamming 3's when open.