Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread

[panthermark]

It is really bad when Turk has less value than Eddy Curry.

But you are correct....NY will probably use Curry at the deadline to go after Melo....

Well....use the TPE and go from there...

[nitrous]

If Bosh leaves...

Hedo for Eddy Curry. Yes Curry sucks...but at least you can get out from under Hedo's contract.

Or...

Using the TPE you. (This one one big deal that is broken out into smaller deals to work under the CBA)

Use the TPE (broken into two parts) to absorb Peja and collison from N.O.
Send Hedo, Jack, Weems, and the rights to your pick this year for Okafor and Collison.

It turns out to be Hedo, Jack, Weems and a #1 for Collison, Okafor and Peja.

Collison
Derozen
Peja
Bargs
Okafor

Right now, there is no reason for N.O. to give up Collison, he is really good and really cheap...so it will cost you quite a bit to get him. Cutting about $10M of their salary will do that.

DO NOT LIKE.

Definately cant get rid of jack or weems... No way Calderon can be with the raptors, send him instead, weems is needed also.

[sump]

I didnt go through all the replies but how this situation:

Toronto trades:

Andrea Bargnani + Amir Johnson

For

Biedrins + Ellis

We get a big body in the paint for CB4

and we can through Ellis in the backcourt with Jack

Davis+Ellis worked so why can't Jack+Ellis work ?

Also if this does occur then the Raptors move Hedo+Sonny for Eddy Curry
then we let Eddy+Banks+Reggie expire at the end of 2011 or we trade them for a team desperate for expirings and willing to mvoe talent

Thoughts ?

Edit: Does anyone know when the lottery is ? I know the NHL just had theirs and we just shipped the #2 pick to Boston.

[Rhettmatic]

If we're looking to save Bosh, something like Bargs/Jack/Reggie for Kaman/Davis.

Hedo/Banks to GSW for Biedrins/Turiaf.

If we do both, we wind up with:

Baron/Calderon
DeRozan/Belinelli
Weems
Bosh/Turiaf
Kaman/Biedrins

Thin at the wings, but I like it overall. Probably look to move Calderon & Belinelli for a starting 2 or 3, then bring in more wings/point guards with our pick and the MLE.

[panthermark]

If Bosh leaves...

Hedo for Eddy Curry. Yes Curry sucks...but at least you can get out from under Hedo's contract.

Or...

Using the TPE you. (This one one big deal that is broken out into smaller deals to work under the CBA)

Use the TPE (broken into two parts) to absorb Peja and collison from N.O.
Send Hedo, Jack, Weems, and the rights to your pick this year for Okafor and Collison.

It turns out to be Hedo, Jack, Weems and a #1 for Collison, Okafor and Peja.

Collison
Derozen
Peja
Bargs
Okafor

Right now, there is no reason for N.O. to give up Collison, he is really good and really cheap...so it will cost you quite a bit to get him. Cutting about $10M of their salary will do that.

DO NOT LIKE.

Definately cant get rid of jack or weems... No way Calderon can be with the raptors, send him instead, weems is needed also.

You are going to have to get rid of someone decent to get something decent back.

OK..how about (in two separate deals).

Use the TPE on Posey or Peja

Then trade a 2nd rounder, Evans and Benelli for MoPete and Collison? (Or some blend of this deal)

I'm just looking at ways to add talent to your roster. Getting Collison would be a start.

Dumping Caldaron and Turk is going to be difficult.

[pass first]

NY won't trade Curry for Hedo ever. They rather have space than Hedo. You may have heard they're targeting a SF in free agency. Also their best two players on the roster next year are.. you guessed it, Small Forwards.

For José, really, they might, if Knicks fans opinions count as a source anyway. But I think that's not too realisitc either myself. They'll be hesitant imo to tie all that precious space they created up again to average players. I think they'd rather pay Luke Ridnour 9M for one year or Steve Blake or whoever..

[panthermark]

I was thinking to would keep Lee and go after Joe Johnson.

But yeah...I think you guys might be stuck with Hedo this year.

The Knicks also like Arroyo...and he will be a lot cheaper than taking on Caldy.

TPE it is....

[gangstaff]

If we're looking to save Bosh, something like Bargs/Jack/Reggie for Kaman/Davis.

Hedo/Banks to GSW for Biedrins/Turiaf.

If we do both, we wind up with:

Baron/Calderon
DeRozan/Belinelli
Weems
Bosh/Turiaf
Kaman/Biedrins

Thin at the wings, but I like it overall. Probably look to move Calderon & Belinelli for a starting 2 or 3, then bring in more wings/point guards with our pick and the MLE.

That is fantastic. To even it out I'd try to get Mags instead of Beans, since Amir should be kept and fills out our rotation up front.

Baron/Calderon
Mags/DD
Weems/pick
Bosh/Amir
Kaman/Turiaf

Frick that is awesome. Bring back Smitch to kick Baron's ass (or more realistically JVG or Avery) and that is a top 3 team in the East next year. Too bad it'll never happen, there isn't one euro in the starting lineup.

[TheCritic]

The fan and media consensus is that Calderon must go. He is the worst defensive player on one of the all-time worst defensive teams. Although he is a valuable offensive player, why would a team want a point guard that cannot defend? How will BC make this happen? He always seems to be able to trade srubs (Hoffa for Humphries, Delfino and Ukic for Amir and Sonny) for valuable assets, but truly, how will he pull this one off?

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I am 95% sure that Colangelo will go after Darren Collison this offseason.

This is a player who, I think, can be a difference maker for this team. He's averaged 18 ppg. and 9 apg. as a starter. I just believe he's an excellent PG, who you could legitimately build around. It may sound like I'm overrating him, but I've seen enough of the Hornets games to make a pretty good assessment on Collison as a player.

A must get for BC this offseason.

As far as getting Bosh to stay...well, I think BC has a pretty good idea as to what direction Bosh is leaning towards. He'll make his decisions based on that.

[pass first]

Lol @ the Clippers being even remotely interested in a Bargs/Kaman swap. Even if means they get cheaper why the F would they. I'm even pretty sure they'd be more interested in Turkoglu for a bad contract (Baron) as they don't have a SF and they could re-sign Blake as the new pg.

[Rapsobsessed7]

You know what may work...

Bargnani + Banks + Evans for Okafor + Collison + Posey

then. you have Calderon + #12 to dangle for a SG

Collison/Jack/Banks
SG/Derozan/Belinelli
Hedo/Weems
Bosh/Posey/Dorsey
Okafor/Johnson/Powell

[pass first]

I'd love to get Collison, he's very athletic and allround, he learned from the best. I think a lot of teams would be in the hunt for him though.

[Rapsobsessed7]

well they dump the extra year owed to posey. Get a secondary scorer for Paul. I just think their team would be better.

Paul/Banks
Henry(#11)/Thorton
Peja/Peterson/Wright
West/Evans
Bargnani/Songila

Imagine Paul with Bargnani. Bargnani would become a 20+ scorer EASILY.

[Rhettmatic]

Has New Orleans done anything to indicate Darren Collison could be on the trade block? Honest question, because I keep seeing his name pop up in these hypothetical trades.

[Rapsobsessed7]

well there have been rumors of them using him + Peja expiring to improve the team. I just thought Bargnani for Collison is fair value basically then it comes down to Okafor + Posey for expiring contracts which i dont think they could do much better for both.

[pass first]

well they dump the extra year owed to posey. Get a secondary scorer for Paul. I just think their team would be better.

Paul/Banks
Henry(#11)/Thorton
Peja/Peterson/Wright
West/Evans
Bargnani/Songila

Imagine Paul with Bargnani. Bargnani would become a 20+ scorer EASILY.

yeah not bad. Although they'll inherit our rebounding problems. I think they'd be better off drafting say Aldrich and start Thornton within that scenario though btw.

What I meant to say though, if Collison is on the block teams will be interested. And so it may turn in to a bidding war and I'm not sure the Raps would be able to win that. Somebody mentioned in the S&T Bosh ideas thread a possibility of Bosh to NO to join CP3 and Collison coming back. That might be the best possibility. But if Bosh stays I think - besides dumping salary - they'd be looking for a comparable talent but playing a different position. What would make sense to me is a Rudy Fernandez/Collison type of trade. Frees up two talented guys who are backing up an All Star and both teams don't hurt their youth. So not sure if the Raptors could beat offers like those, except maybe with the 12th pick or something or if they happen to love DeRozan...

[TimoCruz]

You know what may work...

Bargnani + Banks + Evans for Okafor + Collison + Posey

then. you have Calderon + #12 to dangle for a SG

Collison/Jack/Banks
SG/Derozan/Belinelli
Hedo/Weems
Bosh/Posey/Dorsey
Okafor/Johnson/Powell

That is sick, but Collison has learnt to play the pick n roll and run the offense with the ball in his hands. I think if were gonna still with Hedo we gotta primary scoring PG

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Has New Orleans done anything to indicate Darren Collison could be on the trade block? Honest question, because I keep seeing his name pop up in these hypothetical trades.

Well, the thinking is that his trade value is at an all-time high. I don't think it can get any higher, especially if he's backing up Chris Paul at PG, playing 15-20 mpg. He's too good to be a backup PG. It's kind of a situation similar to the one the Raps had with Ford and Calderon. Calderon being the guy who had a lot of trade value, something that we failed to capitalize on. Maybe, New Orleans will bite the bullet, and deal him.

But, if I'm the Hornets GM, I'm reluctlant to deal Collison...unless I can get rid of my bad contracts which would give me a ton of cap flexibility when Chris Paul becomes a FA, AND/OR I can get a player who has similar production-to-contract value. I believe we've got some pieces to offer that would be enticing, mainly the TPE from a Bosh S&T, Sonny Weems or our draft pick (I hate to do it, but..), and Marcus Banks' expiring.

I mean, it all comes down to what value you place on Darren Collison. Do you think he's a game-changer, franchise-type PG? If so, a hefty price wouldn't be that hard to pay.

[SBC Packers]

Not sure if this is a "trade idea" but...

I've been thinking lately that one scenario that could very well happen is Minnesota landing the number one pick in the draft. They'd be crazy to look pass drafting John Wall and would mean they will have three young and talented point guards: Wall, Flynn and Rubio. I think if that happens BC should try to peel Rubio out of their hands. Then trade Jose and give JJ the starting job while they wait for Ricky to get here. Jack would also be an awesome mentor for Rubio. Steve Nash would be better but I dunno what you have to do to get him from Phoenix other than a 4 game sweep in the first round against Portland.

Ahhhh to dream the impossible dream... Hehehe.