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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#41 » by marcroboy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:59 pm

Realist is Contender.... right???
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#42 » by zilby » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:08 am

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J-Roc wrote:I will assume Mark Price wasn't a defensive stalwart. What's the truth?

It's the name that's turning you off, isn't it? :thinking:

Here's some footage of him, if it helps:


I know Mark Price the great offensive player. But I'm wondering about D. Jack needs help on that end, too. But definitely Jack needs better handles, so I hope Price is helping him with that, too.

Oh yeah, definitely Price is helping Jack with his handles.

I am wondering about that too, but he looks to be competent at hustling, making steals and drawing charges.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#43 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:23 am

I loved Price back in his Gtech days with Salley, Dalrymple etc..

The Cavs were my first team because of him and helped me to appreciate the game.

Price made the most of his physical limitations by understanding the game. JJ will be a better pg just from being around Price.

Price would be a great guy to have on our staff along with Aw; 2 guys that knew how to play the game the right way.

Price is a GT alum that has ties with JJ and Bosh. He also has ties with Embry from the Cleveland days.

Price has a pretty good coaching resume and knows his x's and o's.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#44 » by Throwback24 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 am

marcroboy wrote:Realist is Contender.... right???


Contender was a far better poster, let's not insult his elgacy now.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#45 » by Undefeated » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:27 am

Jarrett has some pretty good handles actually. But just overdribbles at times by doing too much.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#46 » by J-Roc » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:36 am

Undefeated wrote:Jarrett has some pretty good handles actually. But just overdribbles at times by doing too much.


You're thinking of his drives into the lane. I'm thinking of the times he can't handle full court pressure D. Not good enough for a starting PG.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#47 » by Reignman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:37 pm

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Choker wrote:I wish our players did the same. Imagine DeRozan working with like say, Clyde Drexler? Bargnani with Kevin McHale?


With Demar I'm not really concerned. If we know one thing it's that the kid has the work ethic and desire to get as close to his potential ceiling as possible.


i'm genuinely curious. how are we so certain about this with demar? it seems everyone on this board is so damn sure that demar is such a hard worker, yet all i've heard about him are the same generic comments given to every newcomer in the league.


I'll do it chronologically:

- Steady progress throughout the NCAA season which reflected on his on-court play
- Arrived in the NBA with better handles / jumper / FT shooting than most were expecting (lots of room for improvement but during the draft everyone was talking about those things being extremely poor)
- Heard regularly throughout the season that he was putting in work with Hughes most evenings (don't know how you missed that)
- Don't follow twitter but many of his followers here have posted how he has been working out twice a day (I doubt he'd be lying)
- Lights up the Drew league and shows off a new turnaround J
- Comes back to Toronto just last week for additional workouts (team officials / media point out that it has rarely happened here).
- Media points out that Demar looks like he's added muscle

Demar's work ethic is not a concern.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#48 » by Ripp » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:43 pm

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Undefeated wrote:Jarrett has some pretty good handles actually. But just overdribbles at times by doing too much.


You're thinking of his drives into the lane. I'm thinking of the times he can't handle full court pressure D. Not good enough for a starting PG.


+1.

Think about Jrue Holiday and the Indiana guards abused him. Dude's handle is pretty suspect. This is why I wouldn't mind selling high on him...he could easily have a very bad year without Hedo handling the ball and Bosh consuming most of the possessions.

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Post#49 » by Undefeated » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:19 pm

J-Roc wrote:You're thinking of his drives into the lane. I'm thinking of the times he can't handle full court pressure D. Not good enough for a starting PG.


But isn't having the ability to breakdown the defense and getting inside the paint more difficult because of the heavy traffic? The ability to not handle a full court pressure defense isn't that big of a deal because Jarrett can just easily throw the pass at mid-court and just wait to re-gain his dribble.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#50 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:46 pm

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J-Roc wrote:You're thinking of his drives into the lane. I'm thinking of the times he can't handle full court pressure D. Not good enough for a starting PG.


But isn't having the ability to breakdown the defense and getting inside the paint more difficult because of the heavy traffic? The ability to not handle a full court pressure defense isn't that big of a deal because Jarrett can just easily throw the pass at mid-court and just wait to re-gain his dribble.


Jack doesnt overdribble when he attacks the paint. He generally makes his move and tucks the ball away like a running back in a goalline situation.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#51 » by J-Roc » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:52 pm

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J-Roc wrote:You're thinking of his drives into the lane. I'm thinking of the times he can't handle full court pressure D. Not good enough for a starting PG.


But isn't having the ability to breakdown the defense and getting inside the paint more difficult because of the heavy traffic? The ability to not handle a full court pressure defense isn't that big of a deal because Jarrett can just easily throw the pass at mid-court and just wait to re-gain his dribble.


Jack doesnt overdribble when he attacks the paint. He generally makes his move and tucks the ball away like a running back in a goalline situation.


Yup, that's the difference. I LOVE how he attacks the paint. He uses his big body. If he had the handles for full court pressure....I mean heck, Darrick Martin could bring the ball up the court.....Jack would be great.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#52 » by Undefeated » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:20 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Jack doesnt overdribble when he attacks the paint. He generally makes his move and tucks the ball way like a running back in a goalline situation.


At times Jarrett does overdribble hence he turns the ball over. But majority of the time, Jarrett does do a solid job of securing the ball and finishing inside. Anyways, I don't see what's the big deal with Jarrett not being able to handle within a full court pressure? Because from what I've seen, Jarrett seems to be just fine using his body to back-up his man all the way until mid-court.
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Post#53 » by Ripp » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:24 pm

Another thing about Jack's handle that cracks me up is how he always does that right to left behind the back dribble move. It looks so unclean and uncrisp...he actually bends his head down to look at the ball while executing that move! Every time I see him use that move to get out of ball pressure, I get a bad feeling in my stomach. Jrue Holiday is going to eat weaksauce handles like that for breakfast next year.
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Re: Jarrett Jack Working Out With Mark Price 

Post#54 » by OlFlashy » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:24 pm

Boogie! wrote:
Reignman wrote:
Choker wrote:I wish our players did the same. Imagine DeRozan working with like say, Clyde Drexler? Bargnani with Kevin McHale?


With Demar I'm not really concerned. If we know one thing it's that the kid has the work ethic and desire to get as close to his potential ceiling as possible.


i'm genuinely curious. how are we so certain about this with demar? it seems everyone on this board is so damn sure that demar is such a hard worker, yet all i've heard about him are the same generic comments given to every newcomer in the league.


I agree, I think he has fred jones potential
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Post#55 » by Undefeated » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:43 pm

Ripp wrote:Another thing about Jack's handle that cracks me up is how he always does that right to left behind the back dribble move. It looks so unclean and uncrisp...he actually bends his head down to look at the ball while executing that move! Every time I see him use that move to get out of ball pressure, I get a bad feeling in my stomach. Jrue Holiday is going to eat weaksauce handles like that for breakfast next year.


Agreed. Jarrett's inside-out dribble is deadly though. Quick as hell almost Chris Paul-esque.
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