Nash & Barbosa signing with Raptors a possibility?

waltthewiz · Post #41 » by **waltthewiz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:23 pm

Nash comes here for 2/10 and a guaranteed FO job for his 40th birthday. Makes sense.

Truthrising · Post #42 » by **Truthrising** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:24 pm

EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

You can't win with just prospects and rookies, you also need some veterans that can play and also bring in leadership in order to make the playoffs. Nash would be that ideal guy to bring in some leadership into the locker room.

Kevin Willis · Post #43 » by **Kevin Willis** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:25 pm

Casey wants vets. This makes sense. Nash passing to Bargs is like Nash to Nowitki. Then you have JV and who ever we draft. Him alone will make us a playoff team and will increase the revenue 2 fold.

Barbosa off the bench is good but his coming back will probably depend on who we will draft which will most likely be a wing and a pg.

Post #44 » by **LittleOzzy** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:27 pm

This is beyond stupid.

Nash will not even consider us and go to a contender. It's that simple.

dbenalal · Post #45 » by **dbenalal** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:29 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:This is beyond stupid.

Nash will not even consider us and go to a contender. It's that simple.

Nash will come home and retire where it all started

EH15 · Post #46 » by **EH15** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:29 pm

Nikeforged wrote:
EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

I can't imagine his shooting and passing to fall off dramatically...thats what makes him soo effective. Get real

Get real?

Okay, let's say he does play well until the end of a two year contract. By then he'll be 40. Only 6 players in the history of the NBA have ever played beyond age 40. What do you suggest we do then?

Two years of Nash is only gonna give us 2 consecutive 1st round sweeps at best. Then we're right back at square one.

dagger · Post #47 » by **dagger** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:29 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:This is beyond stupid.

Nash will not even consider us and go to a contender. It's that simple.

I don't know if it is totally far-fetched. He could ask quietly to be traded to a contender, but hasn't. If the rumors are true about him being the future GM of Team Canada, it actually makes some sense to reintegrate into the Canadian scene, make a potful of money - he'd get some endorsements, too - and be credited with lifting the Raptors to some kind of low playoff respectability.

HEKTOR · Post #48 » by **HEKTOR** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:30 pm

I think with Nash coming that would put us on the map for other FAs to really take a hard look at the Toronto Raptors and considering hopping on as well. I would think if Nash signs, Barbosa is re-signed then Chandler will also sign. Add to the fact that Val is coming too plus we'd have a high draft pick + an expiring in Calderon to dangle, and you can't help but think BC might be on to something here.

Either that or we keep the pick and go with Barnes/MKG and forget about Chandler. Calderon would definitely be on his way out one way or another, at the very least to clear cap-space, while I wouldn't be surprised if Bayless wasn't given a contract either. Either way, one would have to think we have some options going, especially with Nash around.

PG: NASH
SG: DEROZAN
SF: CHANDLER/2012 pick?
PF: BARGNANI
C: VALANCIUNAS

In the case add Barbosa, JJ, Klezia, Amir, etc. and that's a playoff team.

dagger · Post #49 » by **dagger** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:30 pm

EH15 wrote:
Nikeforged wrote:
EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

I can't imagine his shooting and passing to fall off dramatically...thats what makes him soo effective. Get real

Get real?

Okay, let's say he does play well until the end of a two year contract. By then he'll be 40. Only 6 players in the history of the NBA have ever played beyond age 40. What do you suggest we do then?

Two years of Nash is only gonna give us 2 consecutive 1st round sweeps at best. Then we're right back at square one.

Why are we back at Square 1? We'll have Bargnani, Jonas, our #1 pick in June, Ed, DeMar, cap space. I don't see that as being back at Square 1.

Truthrising · Post #50 » by **Truthrising** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:33 pm

EH15 wrote:
Nikeforged wrote:
EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

I can't imagine his shooting and passing to fall off dramatically...thats what makes him soo effective. Get real

Get real?

Okay, let's say he does play well until the end of a two year contract. By then he'll be 40. Only 6 players in the history of the NBA have ever played beyond age 40. What do you suggest we do then?

Two years of Nash is only gonna give us 2 consecutive 1st round sweeps at best. Then we're right back at square one.

and what's your solution you'd rather not make the playoffs?! :roll:

Fact is Nash had always taken care of his body and has probably kept strict regimen on his conditioning during the offseason he also incorporates nutrition which goes a long way into having a longer career than your average NBA player. Take a look at Grant Hill for example.

J Dilla · Post #51 » by **J Dilla** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:35 pm

I hope we don't sign Nash. Seems like a Hakeem type of move.

Dr Positivity · Post #52 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:35 pm

BC doesn't make moves that are obviously idiotic, he makes moves that are sneakily futile. More likely Wilson Chandler or Jameer Nelson 40 mil contract to go along with a pick at PG/SF. So BC adds something like Lillard, Chandler and Valanciunas or Nelson, Barnes and Valanciunas to this roster and claims we're a playoff team

fredericklove · Post #53 » by **fredericklove** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:35 pm

Didn't Barbosa have an affair with Nash's fiancee or something, if so, I would LOVE to see them become teammates again, I can see an intense locker-room drama with Demar reporting the drama live on twitter!

dbenalal · Post #54 » by **dbenalal** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:36 pm

fredericklove wrote:Didn't Barbosa have an affair with Nash's fiancee or something, if so, I would LOVE to see them play together again, I can see an intense locker-room drama with Demar reporting the drama live on twitter!

was the most biased source ever

bigdirty · Post #55 » by **bigdirty** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:36 pm

The only benefit of signing Nash would be to get Raptor games off TSN2/SN1 reject status.

HEKTOR · Post #56 » by **HEKTOR** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:37 pm

dagger wrote:Why are we back at Square 1? We'll have Bargnani, Jonas, our #1 pick in June, Ed, DeMar, cap space. I don't see that as being back at Square 1.

Yeah, not to mention what's going on with the other teams in this league. Chicago will still be at the top, Miami too of course. Orlando will most likely be a rebuilding team after Howard leaves and goes to NJ. NJ will be up there in the top 3 from the East if they can get both D-Will and Dwight while I could see Atlanta imploding. NY probably won't get much better until Amare, Melo, and co. decide to play some defense, and that probably won't be happening anytime soon. Finally, Boston is on the decline and could also be pretty poor real soon.

As for the other teams in the East, barring I'm forgetting someone, I think we look better going forward in the next couple of years, even without Nash.

Nikeforged · Post #57 » by **Nikeforged** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:38 pm

EH15 wrote:
Nikeforged wrote:
EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

I can't imagine his shooting and passing to fall off dramatically...thats what makes him soo effective. Get real

Get real?

Okay, let's say he does play well until the end of a two year contract. By then he'll be 40. Only 6 players in the history of the NBA have ever played beyond age 40. What do you suggest we do then?

Two years of Nash is only gonna give us 2 consecutive 1st round sweeps at best. Then we're right back at square one.

Square one is no playoffs, like we have been doing for how many years now? He will give confidence to our young guys. What's wrong with having two years of playoff ball?

We aren't going to find a chris paul in this draft or free agency. I want to see how our players do in the playoffs... get some experience.

HEKTOR · Post #58 » by **HEKTOR** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:39 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:BC doesn't make moves that are obviously idiotic, he makes moves that are sneakily futile. More likely Wilson Chandler or Jameer Nelson 40 mil contract to go along with a pick at PG/SF. So BC adds something like Lillard, Chandler and Valanciunas or Nelson, Barnes and Valanciunas to this roster and claims we're a playoff team

When we were healthy, we didn't seem to be too far from being a playoff team this season. I'd like to think with those additions we definitely would be, barring injuries to our best players.

Truthrising · Post #59 » by **Truthrising** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:39 pm

fredericklove wrote:Didn't Barbosa have an affair with Nash's fiancee or something, if so, I would LOVE to see them become teammates again, I can see an intense locker-room drama with Demar reporting the drama live on twitter!

apparently Barbosa and Nash are still friends, Nash was the one that told Barbosa was that if Triano was still head coach of Team Canada, he'd probably be playing for them.

TheDunc · Post #60 » by **TheDunc** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:40 pm

EH15 wrote:
Nikeforged wrote:
EH15 wrote:People aren't afraid of Nash falling off? He's already 38. I get that he's still playing at a high level, but rarely does a player ever play productively this close to age 40. He's gonna have a noticeable decline, and it's coming soon. I could very easily see a signing like this mirror the Dream signing.

I can't imagine his shooting and passing to fall off dramatically...thats what makes him soo effective. Get real

Get real?

Okay, let's say he does play well until the end of a two year contract. By then he'll be 40. Only 6 players in the history of the NBA have ever played beyond age 40. What do you suggest we do then?

Two years of Nash is only gonna give us 2 consecutive 1st round sweeps at best. Then we're right back at square one.

You cant compare nash to other 40 year olds. Nash is an amazingly conditioned athlete, hes still playing in top form with a bunch of scrubs surrounding him. Nash can still play at least 3-4 years at this level barring any injuries. I understand posters who dont want nash here by trade because we would be giving up alot of assets. But if we can sign him, you do it right away and if you dont agree with this kind of move your a hater!

Nash to Toronto in free agency would be sick! He would bring excitement back to toronto basketball. But i also would like to see nash win a ring, something im not sure he would be able to do in Toronto but who knows.