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Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors

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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#41 » by tsherkin » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:54 pm

jonny three time wrote:I don't blame players in Stacks era for being inefficient chuckers. That's who got paid. There were still lots of Isaiah Thomas type GMs in the league and they overvalued anyone who could put up 20-25 a game, so why would a player strive to be a more efficient complimentary piece when that wasn't what the market demanded?

This is a different era. The International influence with ball movement, 3s and heavy use of PnR, as well as advanced stats which better show a players ability to help a team win, all make the game way different than it was when he was at his peak. Let's just hope his mind for the game has changed and he doesn't revert back to how things were in his day.

It is a little concerning that our head coach is an old school defensive coach who's been slow to adapt to the new style of basketball. Two of our big 3 are old school ISO style players. Our former player assistant coach played the exact way players shouldn't play today as well. Without a true superstar it doesn't bode well that so many key parts of our team are playing catch up to the new style of modern NBA basketball.



This seems to escape foundational understanding. Good players have almost always been efficient; great offensive players have definitely always been thus, leastwise era-relative. Stack was a two-time AS who was briefly recognized for volume production but never consistently seen as a great player because he didn't bring wins...
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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#42 » by CoachD » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:57 pm

I think too many people associate a guy's playing career with what he will bring as a coach.

Bill Russell and Magic Johnson are iconic players - but terrible coaches.

Phil Jackson was a terrible player but an iconic coach.

Stackhouse was a volume scorer in an era of volume scorers. He also played on some terrible teams that didn't have any scoring depth.

Stackhouse has a very high basketball IQ, and most importantly is a great people-person. He relates to players and is great at firing them up.
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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#43 » by CoachD » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:59 pm

I think too many people associate a guy's playing career with what he will bring as a coach.

Bill Russell and Magic Johnson are iconic players - but terrible coaches.

Phil Jackson was a terrible player but an iconic coach.

Stackhouse was a volume scorer in an era of volume scorers. He also played on some terrible teams that didn't have any scoring depth.

Stackhouse has a very high basketball IQ, and most importantly is a great people-person. He relates to players and is great at firing them up.
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Post#44 » by CoachJReturns » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:28 am

I liked Stack as a player. He was the new star shooting guard out of NC and had a vicious one handed reverse dunk in college that sort of made him a star. 2nd overall pick in think. As a player he was inefficient offensively. He was and is significantly tougher though than Demar and could defend. He gave a ****.
I don't think he's the best player turned coach,but he's okay. I think the ideal guys for a head coaching position would be Battier,Stockton,Nash and maybe Bowen. If any of those guys one day took Casey's job I would go streaking.
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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#45 » by TheSamMitchell » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:35 pm

Jamal Magloire is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors
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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#46 » by CoachD » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:10 pm

TheSamMitchell wrote:Jamal Magloire is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors



Jamal just keeps cashin them cheques, and keeps his mouth shut!!
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Re: Jerry Stackhouse is bringing a fresh perspective to the Toronto Raptors 

Post#47 » by LLJ » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:07 pm

People need to separate the player from the coach. There are so many former players-turned-coaches who preached things they never followed when they were players.

Once you become a coach you look at the game a little differently and are more objective because you're not playing.

So I don't get why people keep talking about how Stack played or how good or bad he was or whatever.

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