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Post#41 » by Mikistan » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:15 pm

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Post#42 » by Hero » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:17 pm

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Hero wrote:It's a very serious issue. No doubt about it.

What does making a statement at the ESPYs or locking arms for the anthem do to solve it though?


It's not about solving it. It's about bringing more attention to the issues and getting more people behind it to effect change.

People decry Kapaernick for doing this but, now, there's a whole section of the population talking about things that for the most part they probably would have ignored or were ignoring as it didn't directly affect them.


I don't mind what Kaepernick did. I just wish the NBA players and stars would do more. I don't really feel too optimistic that some more talk about the issue is really going to solve anything.
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Re: Stackhouse Responds To Article About Raptors Locking Arms During The Anthem 

Post#43 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:47 pm

dandaman wrote:From day one of camp Jonesie and the rest of the reporters kept bringing up the issue of police brutality blah blah basically forcing Kyle and rest of the Raptors to do something about it. Thanks Jonesie, I watch the Raptors to escape from this chaotic political situation not for it to be forced down my throat when I am trying to watch a basketball game. Its an American issue yet our dumb reporters are the only ones talking about it, I havent seen any American teams locking hands yet.


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Re: Stackhouse Responds To Article About Raptors Locking Arms During The Anthem 

Post#44 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:51 pm

Hero wrote:It's a very serious issue. No doubt about it.

What does making a statement at the ESPYs or locking arms for the anthem do to solve it though?



It asks people to take a look at what the f is going on and get behind some solutions that respect civil rights and public safety.
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Post#45 » by basketball royalty » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:55 pm

McGregFan wrote:Its crazy that people actually have a problem with this. Just as crazy as people counteracting BLM with all lives matter. Its like going to a cancer fundraiser and saying "Nope all diseases matter!!"



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Post#46 » by basketball royalty » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:04 pm

dandaman wrote:From day one of camp Jonesie and the rest of the reporters kept bringing up the issue of police brutality blah blah basically forcing Kyle and rest of the Raptors to do something about it. Thanks Jonesie, I watch the Raptors to escape from this chaotic political situation not for it to be forced down my throat when I am trying to watch a basketball game. Its an American issue yet our dumb reporters are the only ones talking about it, I havent seen any American teams locking hands yet.


Clueless. I am proud that the Raps showed this unified stance and find it a totally respectful form of protest.

Both Lowry and DD have stated they have personal reasons to be for this movement. DD had a friend from Compton shot and I believe killed, so I'd say he has plenty of reason other than Jonesey bringing it up.

I agree it is an American issue but locking arms in unity is not an offensive protest in the least so I have no problem with them doing it for both anthems or on Canadian soil or whatever reasons you or that idiot from the Sun have for bitching about it. Everyone knows it pertains to what is happening in the States anyways.
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Post#47 » by dandaman » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:07 pm

I understand that black people tend to be more picked on by the police officers that's no secret to anyone but if the stats show that more whites and Hispanics are shot by officers, why is there no video evidence of that on cnn? Every story seems to be a black man shot by a white police officer? How is that helping racial tensions? hmm I'm no conspiracy theorist but can someone explain to me whats going on here...
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Post#48 » by RandomRaptorfan » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:43 pm

Our players must've learned this tactic from these unpatriotic soccer players...was this Bruno's idea?

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Post#49 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 12:30 am

dandaman wrote:I understand that black people tend to be more picked on by the police officers that's no secret to anyone but if the stats show that more whites and Hispanics are shot by officers, why is there no video evidence of that on cnn? Every story seems to be a black man shot by a white police officer? How is that helping racial tensions? hmm I'm no conspiracy theorist but can someone explain to me whats going on here...



If you have stats to back up your big what if-maybe please share them. These protests have as much to do with the divisions in a society along racial lines and the resulting violence. Stop watching CNN and start reading about the history of America. It will help.
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Post#50 » by dandaman » Thu Oct 6, 2016 12:44 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
dandaman wrote:I understand that black people tend to be more picked on by the police officers that's no secret to anyone but if the stats show that more whites and Hispanics are shot by officers, why is there no video evidence of that on cnn? Every story seems to be a black man shot by a white police officer? How is that helping racial tensions? hmm I'm no conspiracy theorist but can someone explain to me whats going on here...



If you have stats to back up your big what if-maybe please share them. These protests have as much to do with the divisions in a society along racial lines and the resulting violence. Stop watching CNN and start reading about the history of America. It will help.



History of America? You mean like civil war? That's what this is all about? That happened a long time ago dude I cant remember that far
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Post#51 » by ldnk » Thu Oct 6, 2016 1:12 am

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TradeLowry wrote:I hate all national anthems at sporting events. Keep all that politic bs outta sports.


This.

Why do we even play them? Seriously. I'm old enough to remember when they played God Save the Queen at a movie theatre before the show. And when the symphony orchestra played it before the start of a concert or opera. None of them do now, because it's not a civic necessity. The sports world makes it one, but for no special reason I can see.


It's especially stupid at baseball and basketball games where the anthem happens 20 minutes before the game and the stands are half empty with people buying their first beer of the night and still waiting in line to get into the stands.
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Post#52 » by ldnk » Thu Oct 6, 2016 1:13 am

dandaman wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
dandaman wrote:I understand that black people tend to be more picked on by the police officers that's no secret to anyone but if the stats show that more whites and Hispanics are shot by officers, why is there no video evidence of that on cnn? Every story seems to be a black man shot by a white police officer? How is that helping racial tensions? hmm I'm no conspiracy theorist but can someone explain to me whats going on here...



If you have stats to back up your big what if-maybe please share them. These protests have as much to do with the divisions in a society along racial lines and the resulting violence. Stop watching CNN and start reading about the history of America. It will help.



History of America? You mean like civil war? That's what this is all about? That happened a long time ago dude I cant remember that far


Jim Crow was in the 60s....
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Post#53 » by rapz101 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 1:26 am

The media wants people who play sports to just play sports and shut up. Okay, don't play the national anthem which in fact is a political declaration of that nation, at sporting events.

If they continue to play the anthem at games, then you are involving sports into the political realm. Likewise, athletes who stand for the anthem before every game should be able to voice their opinions on different political issues whether we agree with them or not.

Instead of trying to hush people, they should either try to intellectually discuss the issue and even prove the sentiments wrong, or man up to issues being brought to light.

Joe Warmington can take the hush hush route with this issue, and even if he actually feels disrespected by grown men locking arms, I think the moment that anthem sounds, athletes have the right to voice their opinions.
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Post#54 » by ruckus » Thu Oct 6, 2016 1:30 am

It's an extremely complicated issue and I'm disappointed that it's been boiled down to cops vs African-Americans. What's happening in the States between the police and minorities are simply a symptom of a larger problem that includes class divide, gang violence, drugs, lack of infrastructure, a lack of schools, teachers and jobs, etc.

It's hard to picture but, if you're from Toronto, Jane/Finch, Regent Park, etc are Disneyland compared to parts of Chicago, Detroit, LA.

It's such a systemic, deep rooted problem in American society, I don't think there is a solution.
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Post#55 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 1:45 am

ruckus wrote:It's an extremely complicated issue and I'm disappointed that it's been boiled down to cops vs African-Americans. What's happening in the States between the police and minorities are simply a symptom of a larger problem that includes class divide, gang violence, drugs, lack of infrastructure, a lack of schools, teachers and jobs, etc.

It's hard to picture but, if you're from Toronto, Jane/Finch, Regent Park, etc are Disneyland compared to parts of Chicago, Detroit, LA.

It's such a systemic, deep rooted problem in American society, I don't think there is a solution.



I do. Compensate African Americans for the indignity and damage of slavery. Could be as simple as free college, free community college, free skills enhancement and interest free loans to start businesses.
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Post#56 » by ruckus » Thu Oct 6, 2016 2:10 am

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ruckus wrote:It's an extremely complicated issue and I'm disappointed that it's been boiled down to cops vs African-Americans. What's happening in the States between the police and minorities are simply a symptom of a larger problem that includes class divide, gang violence, drugs, lack of infrastructure, a lack of schools, teachers and jobs, etc.

It's hard to picture but, if you're from Toronto, Jane/Finch, Regent Park, etc are Disneyland compared to parts of Chicago, Detroit, LA.

It's such a systemic, deep rooted problem in American society, I don't think there is a solution.



I do. Compensate African Americans for the indignity and damage of slavery. Could be as simple as free college, free community college, free skills enhancement and interest free loans to start businesses.


It could be a start but, an argument could be made that those type of reparations haven't worked for the Native community. Then, there's the point of trying to distinguish who should be receiving these benefits. Would it be only for people that can directly trace their ancestry to slavery? Are we basing it purely on the color of skin? DNA tests?

It's a nice idea in theory but, it comes with its own set of problems notwithstanding the fact that the United States can't even get it together on the point of universal healthcare. Implementing a system like the one you're describing will be a million times more divisive.
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Post#57 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 2:27 am

ruckus wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ruckus wrote:It's an extremely complicated issue and I'm disappointed that it's been boiled down to cops vs African-Americans. What's happening in the States between the police and minorities are simply a symptom of a larger problem that includes class divide, gang violence, drugs, lack of infrastructure, a lack of schools, teachers and jobs, etc.

It's hard to picture but, if you're from Toronto, Jane/Finch, Regent Park, etc are Disneyland compared to parts of Chicago, Detroit, LA.

It's such a systemic, deep rooted problem in American society, I don't think there is a solution.



I do. Compensate African Americans for the indignity and damage of slavery. Could be as simple as free college, free community college, free skills enhancement and interest free loans to start businesses.


It could be a start but, an argument could be made that those type of reparations haven't worked for the Native community. Then, there's the point of trying to distinguish who should be receiving these benefits. Would it be only for people that can directly trace their ancestry to slavery? Are we basing it purely on the color of skin? DNA tests?

It's a nice idea in theory but, it comes with its own set of problems notwithstanding the fact that the United States can't even get it together on the point of universal healthcare. Implementing a system like the one you're describing will be a million times more divisive.


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Post#58 » by TackyRapsFan » Thu Oct 6, 2016 4:49 am

Shut up, Joe.

We, the people.


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Post#59 » by Double Helix » Thu Oct 6, 2016 10:23 am

Sun media has embarrassed us or directly impacted us negatively now how many times with their faux outrage and tabloid reporting? Too many to mention.

The beer thrower for the Jays is reportedly an employee.

Simmons tabloid reporting on Carroll and CoJo walking through a Casino he was in late.

Rob Ford enabling, defending and denying.

Pretty sure they helped promote that FHRITP hydro guy at the TTC game to get his job back after they canned him.

Their staff regularly fans the flames of anti-Muslim sentiment in the GTA under the guise that they seem to think nearly every single Muslim is pro-Sharia law. Or that Sun staffers think they should have the right to force a Muslim woman to wear less while presenting it as though all Muslim women only wear what they wear because men force them to. As opposed to faith. It's such hypocrisy.

Vince Carter and his mom bashing earlier in his career before he wanted out.

These dudes will probably drive Auston Matthews out of here after his first contract with photos of him in bars or stories of his flings. They're the worst. If there's a place to drive a wedge in with a bold, emotional headline they'll always force it in and wedge. If ever there's a media company here who'll make Derozan, Valanciunas or Lowry reconsider their time in the city I'd put money on it being this one.

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As others said, locking arms is more a sign of solidarity than a sign of disrespect (especially against Canada). These Sun staffers seem to envy what their American Right Wing media friends get to write about and complain about and I'm sure Wormington has probably been dying to write such a piece ever since Colin Kaepernick first took a knee. As much as he's saying this gesture isn't warranted for up here I'd suggest his reaction to some players locking arms up here isn't warranted because it's not at all controversial beyond his attempts to make it so.


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Post#60 » by super_balls » Thu Oct 6, 2016 11:40 am

How does this idiot still have a job?

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