Kyle Lowry might see Spurs as an alternative option, would that make sense for him?

[Throwback24]

lol were going to pay him the max and hes going to take it.

[Courtside]

morningnewsusa is the same fake news website that announced the DeMarcus Cousins trades. For all we know, you're their basketball news writer.

another source, anyway, its just possibility. As someone said, Blazers never thought theyd lose LMA, but once he met with Popovic, he convinced him, so anything is possible.
http://www.basket4us.com/nba/kyle-lowry-suena-fichaje-san-antonio-spurs-2017-203917

Your second source is even worse than the first one (which it simply repeats in Spanish).

[MavCarter]

If the source isn't woj/spears/stein/shams don't post it lol

[MavCarter]

Giving lowry a 5 year max would be an incredibly stupid move by the organization. There's no way in hell lowry stays max worthy productive until he's 35. Unless we find a young PG on a rookie deal to come in and take over while we wait for lowrys deal to expire that contract has disaster written all over it IMO. If lowry doesn't want a 3 year max with a possible TO we should probably move on

[Berserk_Raptor]

who cares about the source, thats why i said Kyle might consider it, Im just pointing out the possibility on how logic would be for Kyle and the Spurs to join forces. we are not here to discuss whether or not the source is legit.

[Berserk_Raptor]

Giving lowry a 5 year max would be an incredibly stupid move by the organization. There's no way in hell lowry stays max worthy productive until he's 35. Unless we find a young PG on a rookie deal to come in and take over while we wait for lowrys deal to expire that contract has disaster written all over it IMO. If lowry doesn't want a 3 year max with a possible TO we should probably move on

you need to see beyond money how important is this. By signing Lowry, we will make a precedent for nba stars to sign here in the future. Lowry will get his money anywhere so whats the point of letting him go? Have you realized this franchise has increased its value? Can you address who contributed to that? KYLE LOWRY. So, it does not matter if we pay him big money, the longer we stay competitive, the richer this team will be.

[OhMyBosh]

If we give him a 5 year max, he will definitely stay in Toronto. If we offer anything less than max, he's going to entertain other offers, as he should.

San Antonio would be a great place for him to play, but his erratic playing style is very difficult to put up with for some coaches. He helps us win because he plays with so much heart and hustle. He's going to really have to tighten up his game if he wants to survive under Pop.

[LLJ]

Couldn't even hate Lowry if this happened. You go from Casey and Demar's defense to Pop and Kahwi? Lol no brainer

Kyle Lowry doesn't strike me as a Poppovich player. Lest we forget before coming here, he clashed with every coach that's ever coached him besides Adelman.

He clashes with Casey too - lest we forget Calderon starting over him smh...

In nearly every case, Lowry turned out to be right though!

Was McHale an idiot coach? Yes.

Was it stupid to start Calderon over him? Yes.

(Actually as I recall Lowry didn't really complain when he came off the bench. But you knew he wasn't pleased)

[MavCarter]

Giving lowry a 5 year max would be an incredibly stupid move by the organization. There's no way in hell lowry stays max worthy productive until he's 35. Unless we find a young PG on a rookie deal to come in and take over while we wait for lowrys deal to expire that contract has disaster written all over it IMO. If lowry doesn't want a 3 year max with a possible TO we should probably move on

you need to see beyond money how important is this. By signing Lowry, we will make a precedent for nba stars to sign here in the future. Lowry will get his money anywhere so whats the point of letting him go? Have you realized this franchise has increased its value? Can you address who contributed to that? KYLE LOWRY. So, it does not matter if we pay him big money, the longer we stay competitive, the richer this team will be.

Beyond money? The NBA is a salary cap league. This isn't baseball and we aren't the yankees. Giving a 31 year old lowry a 5 year max isn't a good investment long term and we all know it

[MavCarter]

Lowry will be 36 when that max deal expires. How many players stay starter productive that long?

Offer him a 4 year max with the final year being a team option. If he says no to that well then too bad. Not too many players outside of superstars get 5 year max deals when they're 31

[Mikistan]

Kyle Lowry doesn't strike me as a Poppovich player. Lest we forget before coming here, he clashed with every coach that's ever coached him besides Adelman.

He clashes with Casey too - lest we forget Calderon starting over him smh...

In nearly every case, Lowry turned out to be right though!

Was McHale an idiot coach? Yes.

Was it stupid to start Calderon over him? Yes.

(Actually as I recall Lowry didn't really complain when he came off the bench. But you knew he wasn't pleased)

Yeah I remember when Lowry joined the team - and his defense was so much better than Caldy's I was blown away. I knew he would be a great player for us

But then watching him get 'neutered' by Casey to take less risks was blah...

Lowry is actually like a basketball savante, it seems like he knows all the rules, and sees the plays develop. He typically argues with the refs, and I would fathom a guess he is more right than wrong, but the WAY you argue is also important. You could be right, but if you aren't likeable, you arent going to win the argument (#HillaryClinton, amirightguys?)

That and, if you keep trying to draw fouls, not get the call, then miss the shot anyway, no ones gonna respect that -- gotta hit the shot first and foremost #stephcurryboi

[CoachJReturns]

We all know in a few years time it will be a burdensome deal. There's more to this than simply maximizing value though. Lowry has been the biggest piece in a team that made a major turnaround from cellar dweller to conference finalist. He's one of the 5 best players we've ever had(top 3 I guess?) and signed a very reasonable deal the last time around. Rewarding him for his service is the right thing to do and it creates a good image around the league. This isn't a cheap team. It's a loyal organization. Put some respek on the Raptors name.

[Mikistan]

We all know in a few years time it will be a burdensome deal. There's more to this than simply maximizing value though. Lowry has been the biggest piece in a team that made a major turnaround from cellar dweller to conference finalist. He's one of the 5 best players we've ever had(top 3 I guess?) and signed a very reasonable deal the last time around. Rewarding him for his service is the right thing to do and it creates a good image around the league. This isn't a cheap team. It's a loyal organization. Put some respek on the Raptors name.

He got that contract because it was before the cap increases, and he had a history of clashing with coaches and leaving organizations.

Masai had all the leverage, he put hte onus on Lowry to put the work in, and gave him the keys to the team at the same time.

Now Lowry will be 31, fresh off Olympic gold, has a better track record - and our cap space puts ...maybe? ... Lowry in the power position.
But its the difference between a 3 year MAX and a 5 year MAX.

The former, automatic --
The latter, tougher to swallow ...

[Psubs]

Its not even about winning, players want that moolah. Kyle wants a 5yr contract, not 4

If they trade him his Bird rights would transfer over. If he tells Derozan that he wants to go then trade him.

Tony Parker + two 1st picks for Lowry? Hmmmm.

[MavCarter]

Going into the luxury tax with a roster you're not even sure will make it out the first round yearly is pretty insane. Giving a 31 year old guy who isn't a superstar and has a history of breaking down by april a 5 year max is completely insane

[CoachJReturns]

We all know in a few years time it will be a burdensome deal. There's more to this than simply maximizing value though. Lowry has been the biggest piece in a team that made a major turnaround from cellar dweller to conference finalist. He's one of the 5 best players we've ever had(top 3 I guess?) and signed a very reasonable deal the last time around. Rewarding him for his service is the right thing to do and it creates a good image around the league. This isn't a cheap team. It's a loyal organization. Put some respek on the Raptors name.

He got that contract because it was before the cap increases, and he had a history of clashing with coaches and leaving organizations.

Masai had all the leverage, he put hte onus on Lowry to put the work in, and gave him the keys to the team at the same time.

Now Lowry will be 31, fresh off Olympic gold, has a better track record - and our cap space puts ...maybe? ... Lowry in the power position.
But its the difference between a 3 year MAX and a 5 year MAX.

The former, automatic --
The latter, tougher to swallow ...

For a team that has NEVER attracted a top tier free agent(unless you count Hedo, which I never did), it's pretty easy to swallow. Same as the DeRozan contract was. This team can only improve through the draft and trades. Free agency has never really been an option. As long as Masai doesn't throw away picks in addition to extending our 31 year old point guard, I'm fine with it.

[TradeLowry]

My user name is crazy yet errrbody in here is terrified to give him 5 years lol

FYI you have no choice but to give him 5 years so quit debating how many years. It's 5 or none

What's really crazy is yall saying let him walk if he demands 5 years lol So you don't want to trade him but you want to lose him for nothing? And while losing him for nothing, still having no cap space to replace him.

Are you sure half this board isn't Rob Babcock?

[ruckus]

Giving lowry a 5 year max would be an incredibly stupid move by the organization. There's no way in hell lowry stays max worthy productive until he's 35. Unless we find a young PG on a rookie deal to come in and take over while we wait for lowrys deal to expire that contract has disaster written all over it IMO. If lowry doesn't want a 3 year max with a possible TO we should probably move on

you need to see beyond money how important is this. By signing Lowry, we will make a precedent for nba stars to sign here in the future. Lowry will get his money anywhere so whats the point of letting him go? Have you realized this franchise has increased its value? Can you address who contributed to that? KYLE LOWRY. So, it does not matter if we pay him big money, the longer we stay competitive, the richer this team will be.

Exactly. The immediate benefits to having Lowry on this team through his prime outweighs the cost of paying him max dollars when he is 36. Also, there's no conclusive evidence that Lowry's game will completely fall off by that point. There's a good likelihood that it will but, we also have to keep in mind that he has quite a bit less minutes on his legs than his contemporaries. Lowry so far is 21850. Chris Paul is already over 30000 minutes. Russ is at 23715 and he is 2-3 yrs younger than Kyle.

Also, it's damn near impossible to match contracts to performance. There's always some give and take. Right now, we are getting an amazing bargain on Lowry's contract. Was his season last year a $12M/yr season or a max salary season?

All that being said, Lowry's a pretty bright guy. He knows that the chances of assembling a championship team with 2 players being paid the max creates a bit of inflexibility. I would lay it out straight for him and offer him options. If he buys what I'm selling then maybe we have the flexibility to add the cherry on top. If not and he would rather go for the money, we'll still have a competitive team for a few years.

[Tacoma]

Giving lowry a 5 year max would be an incredibly stupid move by the organization. There's no way in hell lowry stays max worthy productive until he's 35. Unless we find a young PG on a rookie deal to come in and take over while we wait for lowrys deal to expire that contract has disaster written all over it IMO. If lowry doesn't want a 3 year max with a possible TO we should probably move on

I agree with your logic, however, what matters is where Masai's mind is at in regards to winning. The last time we were without Lowry or a sub-par Lowry was back in early-mid 2015 when we had a sub .500 record in 2nd half of that season and got blown out by WASH in the playoffs. Thus unless DeRozan's 50% shooting and 30+ppg is the new norm, we're not going far without Lowry.

Masai's mindset is somewhere on the fence between winning now (like his signing of vets like Carroll) and not risking the future. He's also previously said that doesn't want to let assets go for nothing. To me these points to him re-signing Lowry and keeping this BC core together for a few more years while he waits for his younger assets to organically grow hopefully into something.

So, Lowry is going to the highest bidder and it will be from the Raptors. Masai is going to open up the vault and let the chips fall where they may.

[kieferli]

I can see he will leave if we lowball Lowry , and I am sure if DD still with us one day he will stay. He never been that happy in his basketball life. We gave me everything he could dream of in Raptors : Money , Friendship, , family , All stars game starter , Olympic Gold medal.... I still remember before he join Raptors he is just good player but with bad attitudes ,many ppls don't like him including his coach . He is totally difference player after he join us. I think the main reason is he finally found a group of teammate respect him , that really have to do because of the relationship with DD . To be honest if they don't have kids family I will think they are a G@@ partner lol