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Post#41 » by VinBaker6 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:49 am

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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#42 » by raptorstime » Tue Jul 4, 2017 7:25 am

Last season he played like hot trash and looked like he didn't want to be here.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#43 » by macNcheese3 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 8:11 am

raptorstime wrote:Last season he played like hot trash and looked like he didn't want to be here.


He play was absolutely blasphemous! Lol
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#44 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jul 4, 2017 9:44 am

Hi. Patterson doesn't deserve to be in the NBA. He's a stretch that doesn't make his shots and a poor rebounder. Once again this is only my opinion but the league has spoken. How many teams are battling to sign him ? He's overrated on here. OG is already on the level of patterson and he hasn't played a game in the NBA. What does patterson do ? The guy only plays defence and that's it. I can find a D leaguer or a euro scrub that can do the same thing for less money.Image
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#45 » by tdot56 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 10:29 am

Next.. Europe???
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#46 » by DonMega » Tue Jul 4, 2017 11:01 am

he's been generally garbage for 2 years now on offense, what we need is **** offense and casey is finally realizing it. Also look how no team wants him, guess toronto will overpay another garbage player because why not, no one else will.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#47 » by orbesnet » Tue Jul 4, 2017 1:46 pm

You gotta let him go. he can defend and shoot well but as everyone has pointed out, it's a matter of consistency and recently (past 2 years) there's been none.

Can't remember the last time a saw a shooter so afraid to shoot. Don't want that kind of hesitation around our squad... see ya PP.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#48 » by Rapcity_11 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 2:47 pm

baller16 wrote:This guy has become very overrated on this board because of his advanced stats


The consensus around here is that he doesn’t belong in the NBA, and that the Raptors shouldn’t take him for free….and he’s overrated? LOL
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#49 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:09 pm

I valued him when he shot 36% from 3 in the regular season. In the playoffs the last two seasons he has shot 30%. That is awful (although he isn't alone...talking to you Lowry, Carroll, and Serge)
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#50 » by ruckus » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:28 pm

Can someone explain to me why Pat gets so much hate around here? He's a role player that is paid like a role player and he does role player things. Is it because he's active on social media and he has interests other than basketball?

For a backup PF, what else do you guys want for $6M a year? He's a 37% 3-pt shooter, he gets close to 5 boards per game and he plays good team defense.

Yes, he doesn't seem to perform when the pressure is on but, that appears to be a team-wide issue and not localized to Patterson.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#51 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:09 pm

ruckus wrote:Can someone explain to me why Pat gets so much hate around here? He's a role player that is paid like a role player and he does role player things. Is it because he's active on social media and he has interests other than basketball?

For a backup PF, what else do you guys want for $6M a year? He's a 37% 3-pt shooter, he gets close to 5 boards per game and he plays good team defense.

Yes, he doesn't seem to perform when the pressure is on but, that appears to be a team-wide issue and not localized to Patterson.
all you have to do is check his stats. The guy is a stretch 4 that scores under 9 points and his rebounding numbers are worse than Andrea's. Yes worse than brags. 9 points is three 3 pointers. How are you a stretch 4 and you can't knock down 3 three pointers on most nights. If you call that good then there's nothing else I can tell you. Patterson was the back PF but he's not used as your typical back up. He also closed out a lot of games. When game 3 of the cavs series started patterson had 0 points and 2 rebounds to his name. How are you going to compete with the cavs when a important player on your team score's 0 points in game 1 and game 2. Come on man even could have knock down a shot.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#52 » by ruckus » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:23 pm

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ruckus wrote:Can someone explain to me why Pat gets so much hate around here? He's a role player that is paid like a role player and he does role player things. Is it because he's active on social media and he has interests other than basketball?

For a backup PF, what else do you guys want for $6M a year? He's a 37% 3-pt shooter, he gets close to 5 boards per game and he plays good team defense.

Yes, he doesn't seem to perform when the pressure is on but, that appears to be a team-wide issue and not localized to Patterson.
all you have to do is check his stats. The guy is a stretch 4 that scores under 9 points and his rebounding numbers are worse than Andrea's. Yes worse than brags. 9 points is three 3 pointers. How are you a stretch 4 and you can't knock down 3 three pointers on most nights. If you call that good then there's nothing else I can tell. Patterson was the back PF but he's not used as your typical back up. He also closed out a lot of games.


Again, he's a backup PF making $6M per year. He shoots 37% from 3. He plays team D. What more do you want? You can't knock down 3 3-pters a night if you're only getting 4-5 attempts per game. There's going to be good nights, bad nights and everything in-between. There is not a single role player in the NBA that hits their 3-pt percentages every single night.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#53 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:29 pm

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ruckus wrote:Can someone explain to me why Pat gets so much hate around here? He's a role player that is paid like a role player and he does role player things. Is it because he's active on social media and he has interests other than basketball?

For a backup PF, what else do you guys want for $6M a year? He's a 37% 3-pt shooter, he gets close to 5 boards per game and he plays good team defense.

Yes, he doesn't seem to perform when the pressure is on but, that appears to be a team-wide issue and not localized to Patterson.
all you have to do is check his stats. The guy is a stretch 4 that scores under 9 points and his rebounding numbers are worse than Andrea's. Yes worse than brags. 9 points is three 3 pointers. How are you a stretch 4 and you can't knock down 3 three pointers on most nights. If you call that good then there's nothing else I can tell. Patterson was the back PF but he's not used as your typical back up. He also closed out a lot of games.


Again, he's a backup PF making $6M per year. He shoots 37% from 3. He plays team D. What more do you want? You can't knock down 3 3-pters a night if you're only getting 4-5 attempts per game. There's going to be good nights, bad nights and everything in-between. There is not a single role player in the NBA that hits their 3-pt percentages every single night.
yes and you can get a D league or euro scrub to put up the same stats and play defence for less than 6 mill.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#54 » by ruckus » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:39 pm

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ruckus wrote:
RaptorsNorth wrote:all you have to do is check his stats. The guy is a stretch 4 that scores under 9 points and his rebounding numbers are worse than Andrea's. Yes worse than brags. 9 points is three 3 pointers. How are you a stretch 4 and you can't knock down 3 three pointers on most nights. If you call that good then there's nothing else I can tell. Patterson was the back PF but he's not used as your typical back up. He also closed out a lot of games.


Again, he's a backup PF making $6M per year. He shoots 37% from 3. He plays team D. What more do you want? You can't knock down 3 3-pters a night if you're only getting 4-5 attempts per game. There's going to be good nights, bad nights and everything in-between. There is not a single role player in the NBA that hits their 3-pt percentages every single night.
yes and you can get a D league or euro scrub to put up the same stats and play defence for less than 6 mill.


This is a listing of players from last season that shot more than 3 3's a game with a % higher than 37% while grabbing 4+ rebounds:

http://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/#!?sort=PTS&dir=-1&CF=FG3_PCT*GE*37:REB*GE*4:FG3A*GE*3&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=F

Any suggestions on who we can get?
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#55 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:42 pm

I said it before and I'll say it again. This man is better than patrick patterson!
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#56 » by ruckus » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:52 pm

RaptorsNorth wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again. This man is better than patrick patterson!


I like Acy too but, there's no proof that he's a clear cut upgrade over Patterson. Is he even available?
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#57 » by Rapsalot » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:54 pm

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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#58 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:55 pm

I have no issue with Patterson as a player;
My problem is with the role he filled.

When his shot is dropping and he is playing hard on the other end, its nice to have him as an option
The problem is we would play him when it wasn't and he wasn't.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#59 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:59 pm

He didn't get the nickname Patbrick for knocking down shots.
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Re: Is Patrick Patterson impact undervalued here? 

Post#60 » by dhackett1565 » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:10 pm

If Ibaka is playing PF, Patterson doesn't make sense to bring back, considering the cost.

If JV is moved and Ibaka is a full time C, Patterson is basically a perfect fit to start at PF, if he can be had for ~10M. He's wildly underrated by many.
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