Drastic Decline in our 3 Pt Shooting - Any Explanation?

Anticon · Post #41 » by **Anticon** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 11:17 pm

Anticon wrote:I can't seem to upload the shot chart, but you can see it here:

https://stats.nba.com/events/?flag=3&CFID=155&CFPARAMS=2018-19&TeamID=1610612761&ContextMeasure=FGA&Season=2018-19&section=team&sct=hex

Pretty abysmal shooting from the top of the arc - it seems to me there isn't a lot of discipline over three point shot selection this year. Not clear if it's because Kawhi takes them so they've taken the rules away on that, but there are a lot of guys that shouldn't be taking those threes.

Also no areas of above average shooting - we were sharp from the right corner last year.

If someone has some time it would be good to breakdown the player-by-player charts more.

And already 0/3 from those spots tonight.

Darkseid · Post #42 » by **Darkseid** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 11:26 pm

Answer:

Variance.

SHFT · Post #43 » by **SHFT** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 11:38 pm

This is so frustrating...how is our shooting this inconsistent. How did these guys all not shoot like 1000 3s a day in the offseason knowing our offence would be 3 pt heavy.

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Raps in 4 · Post #44 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:05 am

Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Johnny Bball · Post #45 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:29 am

MEDIC wrote:I've always hated iso ball. We are doing far too much of it. Much too easy to defend. We learned this years ago. Need the who team engaged in the offensive possession.

How can you think this when we have just as many open and wide open looks and someone already posted the numbers.

radeonboy · Post #46 » by **radeonboy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:56 am

Raps in 4 wrote:Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

NiL8r87 · Post #47 » by **NiL8r87** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:58 am

radeonboy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

Are we still using this tired-ass meme?

radeonboy · Post #48 » by **radeonboy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:00 am

NiL8r87 wrote:
radeonboy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

Are we still using this tired-ass meme?

As long as Masai is still evaluating, then yes.

Raps in 4 · Post #49 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:00 am

radeonboy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

This is one season where he doesn't have time to evaluate. Kawhi is gone if this team doesn't perform.

radeonboy · Post #50 » by **radeonboy** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:01 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
radeonboy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Another putrid shooting night while our opponents light us up. Masai will have to act.

Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

This is one season where he doesn't have time to evaluate. Kawhi is gone if this team doesn't perform.

100% agree.

Post #51 » by **Patman** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:52 pm

MEDIC wrote:I've always hated iso ball. We are doing far too much of it. Much too easy to defend. We learned this years ago. Need the who team engaged in the offensive possession.

We're scoring or creating open looks out of isos.

elmer_yuck · Post #52 » by **elmer_yuck** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:58 pm

We should be taking fewer 3's.
We get a huge lead, we start taking way too many 3's, the lead evaporates. Happens almost every game.

Johnny Bball · Post #53 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:02 pm

radeonboy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
radeonboy wrote:
Masai is still evaluating. Give him some time.

This is one season where he doesn't have time to evaluate. Kawhi is gone if this team doesn't perform.

100% agree.

Just because you are both impatient and want change for change sake, doesn't mean he's "evaluating". He's very likely standing pat until the trade deadline. why pay a higher price to get a small bump now. and he's not making major changes.

___Rand___ · Post #54 » by **___Rand___** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:16 pm

Only explanation: BAD PROS, BAD SHOOTING COACH.

SalamiNcheese · Post #55 » by **SalamiNcheese** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:12 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:My eye tells me it's mostly lack of ball movement & player movement. I wonder if the stats support that assumption.

I don't know. I think OG has had open looks for most of his 3's. I think everyone is kind of dealing with there own problem.

OG - Dad/missed time / wrist
Delon- Injured
FVV - injured
Lowry - Might be injured/slump
Cj - All mental no confidence
JV- Coming back to normal I think. Probably didn't practice his 3's as much as he did the year before.

Basketball_Jones · Post #56 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:35 pm

Demar? That guy banked most of his assists on kicking out to shooters I think.

MEDIC · Post #57 » by **MEDIC** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:40 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I've always hated iso ball. We are doing far too much of it. Much too easy to defend. We learned this years ago. Need the who team engaged in the offensive possession.

How can you think this when we have just as many open and wide open looks and someone already posted the numbers.

How many passes lead up to that open 3?

Johnny Bball · Post #58 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:20 pm

MEDIC wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I've always hated iso ball. We are doing far too much of it. Much too easy to defend. We learned this years ago. Need the who team engaged in the offensive possession.

How can you think this when we have just as many open and wide open looks and someone already posted the numbers.

How many passes lead up to that open 3?

If its a wide open shot if we only had to make two passes instead of 3 passes to get it, does it matter? Huh?

Public_Enemy101 · Post #59 » by **Public_Enemy101** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:41 pm

I never understood why JV pump fakes before shooting the three. The move may work 1 out of 20 times to fool the defender and drive to the basket, but those valuable seconds of pump faking could be used to get more legs in his shot. Shooting coaches need to straighten him out on that.

NeoDragonKnight · Post #60 » by **NeoDragonKnight** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:50 pm

seems to be just a mass slump teamwide. Watching OG and CJ clank 3 wide open 3 point shots only to see Brogdon hit 2 crucial ones made me jelly...