Freddie Gillespie Highlights

[Zeno]

What is the argument against signing him if you’re management? Maybe he’s your second unit big next year on a 2 year non guaranteed deal.

He just had 9/8/3blks in 18 minutes. He’s 23. Has so much to learn given he started playing in high school.

I think you might try to get him on a two year two way deal so he doesn’t count as much against the cap next summer. Convert Yuta to a two year full contract with a non guaranteed 2nd year.. Then if Gillespie looks good in camp, you can use a portion of the MLE to convert him to a cheap 3 year deal with non guaranteed years like the one Matt Thomas signed.

[bluerap23]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

[Brinbe]

Refreshing personality....

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sharp as hell. really like what i saw there. fits perfectly, i think they look to develop him further. how many 10-day guys do anything, let alone did what he did? when you consider he's learning on the fly and rusty after not playing for a while it's even more impressive.

i am a fan.

[Zeno]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

[Indeed]

What is the argument against signing him if you’re management? Maybe he’s your second unit big next year on a 2 year non guaranteed deal.

He just had 9/8/3blks in 18 minutes. He’s 23. Has so much to learn given he started playing in high school.

I think you might try to get him on a two year two way deal so he doesn’t count as much against the cap next summer. Convert Yuta to a two year full contract with a non guaranteed 2nd year.. Then if Gillespie looks good in camp, you can use a portion of the MLE to convert him to a cheap 3 year deal with non guaranteed years like the one Matt Thomas signed.

I think we can have both of them as a rookie min, and reserve the two-way for someone from the draft (undraft pool).

[Indeed]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

I think we are undersize if we have another 3/4 to play the 5. Even we had Ibaka, our reboundering were never good. Having Birch plays at C, we are still not very effective on the defensive rebounding area.

Meanwhile, Siakam is best to play SF on offense against smaller defenders, so having a smaller 5 may not get him a good matchup (Siakam against big C was just shooting long range jumpshot, as big C allows him to shoot).

[Zeno]

What is the argument against signing him if you’re management? Maybe he’s your second unit big next year on a 2 year non guaranteed deal.

He just had 9/8/3blks in 18 minutes. He’s 23. Has so much to learn given he started playing in high school.

I think you might try to get him on a two year two way deal so he doesn’t count as much against the cap next summer. Convert Yuta to a two year full contract with a non guaranteed 2nd year.. Then if Gillespie looks good in camp, you can use a portion of the MLE to convert him to a cheap 3 year deal with non guaranteed years like the one Matt Thomas signed.

I think we can have both of them as a rookie min, and reserve the two-way for someone from the draft (undraft pool).

Yes but and this might be too small to consider but if you leave Gillespie or Yuta as a two way and wait to sign one of them next year you get a couple benefits. First they will be making more as a 2nd year player, I believe than their caphold as a two way guy is less by .7 of a million I believe. Second, because you will have access to the MLE in the offseason, you can get them on 3 year deal which allow you to have full restricted bird rights later. Even if you sign or keep them on two ways this season, you can easily free up the two way spots for the 2nd rounders and undrafted guys by converting them later.

[tecumseh18]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

Is Theis not the perfect choice for the MLE (assuming we don't use our cap space)? Not a big guy, but he checks most of the boxes. Cs rode him through Sixers and us to the ECF in the bubble. And as a non-American, he may not have such an aversion to playing in Toronto.

I wish Dieng was healthy and played tonight, so we could see if he should be a target. I haven't seen him since his T-Wolves days. His numbers look good.

[Zeno]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

Is Theis not the perfect choice for the MLE (assuming we don't use our cap space)? Not a big guy, but he checks most of the boxes. Cs rode him through Sixers and us to the ECF in the bubble. And as a non-American, he may not have such an aversion to playing in Toronto.

I wish Dieng was healthy and played tonight, so we could see if he should be a target. I haven't seen him since his T-Wolves days. His numbers look good.

Theis is not a bad option but at that point maybe Birch isn't either if they feel they can really develop his 3 point shooting. But passing is a pretty big concern for me if we are going with these 4 as our core. This is why I think Nurse has this infatuation with McCaw,Bembry types. If you got a guy pretty much a cross between Yuta and Bembry but more proven with a little more girth that is the ideal guy to me. That is actually Ben Simmons with a 3 so not easy to find/doesn't exist. lol.

[Zeno]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

I think we are undersize if we have another 3/4 to play the 5. Even we had Ibaka, our reboundering were never good. Having Birch plays at C, we are still not very effective on the defensive rebounding area.

Meanwhile, Siakam is best to play SF on offense against smaller defenders, so having a smaller 5 may not get him a good matchup (Siakam against big C was just shooting long range jumpshot, as big C allows him to shoot).

Good point, I think having a big C also really benefits OG because if we can force opposing teams to guard OG with smaller guys it is huge for his offense toward the basket.

[Psubs]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

If the 1st pick isn't Mobley, I say they bring in Olynyk. He shoots the 3, passes well, is taller then 6'10 (though isn't a great rebounder due to wingspan). He's a good complement to the bruisers.

I would be cool giving Birch the BAE for 2 years guaranteed like Stanley. Freddie can have a 2 year deal like Matt Thomas, same for Yuta.

Likely the player drafted is a SG or SF so Bembry is a luxury to be brought back if he'll play for the min for 1 year. Bring back Watson as he can shoot the 3 and be like a cheap Tony Snell off the bench.

[bluerap23]

My problem with this "starter" is that the missing piece really needs to provide rebounding(expected for a big), 3 point shooting(becoming more common with bigs but not as common as wings, and passing/shot creation(really not that common for bigs). I think it might actually be better to start another 3/4 who has the potential to play the 5 but has those skills. Then Birch/Boucher at the 4/5 off the bench is good.

Is Theis not the perfect choice for the MLE (assuming we don't use our cap space)? Not a big guy, but he checks most of the boxes. Cs rode him through Sixers and us to the ECF in the bubble. And as a non-American, he may not have such an aversion to playing in Toronto.

I wish Dieng was healthy and played tonight, so we could see if he should be a target. I haven't seen him since his T-Wolves days. His numbers look good.

Theis is not a bad option but at that point maybe Birch isn't either if they feel they can really develop his 3 point shooting. But passing is a pretty big concern for me if we are going with these 4 as our core. This is why I think Nurse has this infatuation with McCaw,Bembry types. If you got a guy pretty much a cross between Yuta and Bembry but more proven with a little more girth that is the ideal guy to me. That is actually Ben Simmons with a 3 so not easy to find/doesn't exist. lol.

Theis is a good option. Realistic and does much of what we need. It would be nice to have at least one banger on the roster with real size. Even Boston went out and got TT because they felt Theis wasn't big enough.

A 7 footer that plays defence, shoots and passes -that's basically Embiid, so maybe not so realistic.

[Psubs]

Is Theis not the perfect choice for the MLE (assuming we don't use our cap space)? Not a big guy, but he checks most of the boxes. Cs rode him through Sixers and us to the ECF in the bubble. And as a non-American, he may not have such an aversion to playing in Toronto.

I wish Dieng was healthy and played tonight, so we could see if he should be a target. I haven't seen him since his T-Wolves days. His numbers look good.

Theis is not a bad option but at that point maybe Birch isn't either if they feel they can really develop his 3 point shooting. But passing is a pretty big concern for me if we are going with these 4 as our core. This is why I think Nurse has this infatuation with McCaw,Bembry types. If you got a guy pretty much a cross between Yuta and Bembry but more proven with a little more girth that is the ideal guy to me. That is actually Ben Simmons with a 3 so not easy to find/doesn't exist. lol.

Theis is a good option. Realistic and does much of what we need. It would be nice to have at least one banger on the roster with real size. Even Boston went out and got TT because they felt Theis wasn't big enough.

A 7 footer that plays defence, shoots and passes -that's basically Embiid, so maybe not so realistic.

Try to draft Queta.

[ItsDanger]

I like Gillespie as a bench big, he provides physical style, something we sorely lack.

[RapsFanInOhio]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

If the 1st pick isn't Mobley, I say they bring in Olynyk. He shoots the 3, passes well, is taller then 6'10 (though isn't a great rebounder due to wingspan). He's a good complement to the bruisers.

I would be cool giving Birch the BAE for 2 years guaranteed like Stanley. Freddie can have a 2 year deal like Matt Thomas, same for Yuta.

Likely the player drafted is a SG or SF so Bembry is a luxury to be brought back if he'll play for the min for 1 year. Bring back Watson as he can shoot the 3 and be like a cheap Tony Snell off the bench.

I really want Mobley. I don’t think there’s any way we get up there to get him, but he just seems like a missing piece to the rest of the roster. I still have Cunningham and Green ahead of him, but he’s a great fit. Unfortunately I don’t think we’re going to be picking that high without some serious luck.

Olynyk also feels like a very realistic, logical MLE guy. Your lineup for next year feels close too:

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Plus:
FRP and 2 SRPs
Lowry or players from Lowry S&T
Probably Olynyk with the MLE

That might well be a contender, honestly, depending on the FRP and the Lowry resolution.

Let’s play hypothetical:
Fred / Flynn
Trent / Herro / Bembry / Harris
OG / Iguodala / Watson / Yuta
Pascal / Boucher
Olynyk / Mobley / Birch / Freddie

[bluerap23]

I'm happy with Birch as our back up C and Freddie as our 3rd. Boucher should be backing up Pascal and OG. Just need a starting C.

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Our bench could use more scoring though.

If the 1st pick isn't Mobley, I say they bring in Olynyk. He shoots the 3, passes well, is taller then 6'10 (though isn't a great rebounder due to wingspan). He's a good complement to the bruisers.

I would be cool giving Birch the BAE for 2 years guaranteed like Stanley. Freddie can have a 2 year deal like Matt Thomas, same for Yuta.

Likely the player drafted is a SG or SF so Bembry is a luxury to be brought back if he'll play for the min for 1 year. Bring back Watson as he can shoot the 3 and be like a cheap Tony Snell off the bench.

I really want Mobley. I don’t think there’s any way we get up there to get him, but he just seems like a missing piece to the rest of the roster. I still have Cunningham and Green ahead of him, but he’s a great fit. Unfortunately I don’t think we’re going to be picking that high without some serious luck.

Olynyk also feels like a very realistic, logical MLE guy. Your lineup for next year feels close too:

Fred/Flynn/Harris
Trent/Bembry
OG/Watson/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Starter/Birch/Freddie

Plus:
FRP and 2 SRPs
Lowry or players from Lowry S&T
Probably Olynyk with the MLE

That might well be a contender, honestly, depending on the FRP and the Lowry resolution.

Let’s play hypothetical:
Fred / Flynn
Trent / Herro / Bembry / Harris
OG / Iguodala / Watson / Yuta
Pascal / Boucher
Olynyk / Mobley / Birch / Freddie

Unfortunately Miami can easily sign Lowry outright. If they weren't willing at the deadline, there is no way they will trade Herro for him now.

[Dalek]

Freddie G had himself a game last night with:

9 PTS
8 REB
3 BLK
1 AST
3/5 FG
3/4 FT
18 MP

Other than the cheap dunk that Drew Eubanks got while he was recovering after a first block, he was damn near perfect. Like Yuta he just wants to challenge everything because he is desperate to make the league. It is unfortunate to get dunked on like that but Drew Eubanks now has a career highlight.

Freddie's block on Derozan was at the rim as he had a full head of steam displaying his strength with verticality, while Patty Mills got blocked while going to the rim showing his tracking speed. I know people think 6'9" is undersized for a C, but Freddie G is so strong and smart with his feet he is going to be a great rim protector.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

I like Gillespie as a bench big, he provides physical style, something we sorely lack.

such disrespect to Baynes

[elmer_yuck]

It's still early, but I don't see why Freddie couldn't be a backup center next year, and maybe a starter sometime in the future.
I'd rather have a young cheap guy with potential than a mediocre older guy with a known ceiling, like Aron Baynes.
I'd rather have a center who rebounds, blocks shots and bangs instead of a 3 point shooter like Olynyk.
We have enough 3 point shooters and I've never bought into the "keep the lane unclogged" nonsense.
6'9" barefoot is not undersized for a center, especially if the guy weighs 245 pounds, has a 7'5" wingspan and a 9'3" standing reach.

[ItsDanger]

I like Gillespie as a bench big, he provides physical style, something we sorely lack.

such disrespect to Baynes

LOL, I'm kind of surprised how passive Baynes has gotten. Its time for him to retire, he's lost the edge.