Draft Thread Part 4

[WuTang_OG]

I have concerns about Mitchell, particularly his shooting, but I couldn't care less about his age. One could even argue it's a plus in terms of return on investment i.e. he's ready to contribute right away and will be cheap through his prime. Some guys are just late bloomers or didn't get an opportunity early in college; hell, guys like Rodman and Taj Gibson were drafted closer to 25.

Mitchell is a solid pick. He can flat out play on both ends. I dont believe his shooting was an outlier. His step backs and pull ups are “confident” moves. You dont attempt those shots if you know u cant hit them. These werent just opem 3’s from the corner.

But i will say we have fvv and flynn already - i just dont see how we dump flynn already. Plus if were dead set on mitchell, we r going to have to be happy with a fvv mitchell backcourt which i dont know about. He’d be a greAt pick 14+ ... i dont think we take him at 7

Would be nice to get Cade and get another pick to get Mitchell if they really like him especially with lowry possibbly gone.

Fvv - mitchell
Cade - trent
Og -
Pascal -
Upgrade -

We would have a very promising back court - all 2 way guys

[Federalies]

As exciting as it is to think of Cade running point with FVV while switching on defence, let’s not overlook our 2 second round picks. As mentioned a few days ago, the Raptors are a team that hasn’t been scared of taking a gamble on short PG’s I’m surprised there’s not more talk of Max “Mid-Court” Abmas, the 6’1” NCAA’s leading scorer out of Oral Roberts. At 24.6 PPG on 43% 3P% (8.3 3P shots per game) and 89% FT%, 4 assists and 3 rbpg I’d suggest we should have him on our radar in the second round (Tankathon has us taking him at 46)!

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[Indeed]

I have concerns about Mitchell, particularly his shooting, but I couldn't care less about his age. One could even argue it's a plus in terms of return on investment i.e. he's ready to contribute right away and will be cheap through his prime. Some guys are just late bloomers or didn't get an opportunity early in college; hell, guys like Rodman and Taj Gibson were drafted closer to 25.

Mitchell is a solid pick. He can flat out play on both ends. I dont believe his shooting was an outlier. His step backs and pull ups are “confident” moves. You dont attempt those shots if you know u cant hit them. These werent just opem 3’s from the corner.

But i will say we have fvv and flynn already - i just dont see how we dump flynn already. Plus if were dead set on mitchell, we r going to have to be happy with a fvv mitchell backcourt which i dont know about. He’d be a greAt pick 14+ ... i dont think we take him at 7

Would be nice to get Cade and get another pick to get Mitchell if they really like him especially with lowry possibbly gone.

Fvv - mitchell
Cade - trent
Og -
Pascal -
Upgrade -

We would have a very promising back court - all 2 way guys

Davion and VanVleet should be a very good fit.
Much like Davion and Butler where they played off each other. Some adjustment needs to be made, and I wish to see more passing from Davion in making use of the 3 point shootings around him.

I don't think Davion will drop lower than 13. Ball handling with speed, shooting and passing combination is the ideal playmaker combination, and you may not even develop this with Bouknight, Moody, etc who are projected around that range.

[hyper316]

Hoping Masai can swing a 3way S&T deal for Lowry and net us a mid-1st Rd pick

[canada_dry]

If I knew I'd be getting paid Masai money

The thing is we're all just trying to see the value in these guys. Moody doesn't jump off the page, but let's also not forget that he was a freshman leading a team to the elite 8. And what's up with that FTR? That's Harden-esque

Not to mention his 7 foot wingspan. I'd really can't wait to see Moody's actual measurements. At 18, he may not have stopped growing.

Yeah, Lamb was 6'5" with a 7'1" wingspan though. I think Moody has wider shoulders though so he might be able to add more mass.

Much wider shoulders. Kawhi-esque.

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[MixxSRC]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

[WuTang_OG]

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[Raptorfan2012]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

IMO not really: drafting 18-19 year olds is like opening a mystery box. Some make it while others turn out to be all hype no substance. If Davion can come into the league and start making an impact from day one, then who cares? There are late bloomers in this league. I wouldnt mind if we take Davion at 7 or 8. Kid is going to be a 2 way player who has championship pedigree.

[MixxSRC]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

IMO not really: drafting 18-19 year olds is like opening a mystery box. Some make it while others turn out to be all hype no substance. If Davion can come into the league and start making an impact from day one, then who cares? There are late bloomers in this league. I wouldnt mind if we take Davion at 7 or 8. Kid is going to be a 2 way player who has championship pedigree.

what if he doesn't come into the league and starts making impact right away? what if he needs time to adjust? then we are looking at 22 year old trying to figure it out and that might take a year or two.

[hyper316]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

Why is age such a huge deal?

Norm Powell was a senior and played 6 years and 2 contracts for raptors and still only 28 now.

Are people worried about age when Mitchell is re-signing for his 4th contract?

[Raptorfan2012]

https://youtu.be/lgAKvxn7NqY

Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is a good video showing Davian’s defence. What he lacks in height, he makes up for in strength, speed, and ball iq.

[bon]

As exciting as it is to think of Cade running point with FVV while switching on defence, let’s not overlook our 2 second round picks. As mentioned a few days ago, the Raptors are a team that hasn’t been scared of taking a gamble on short PG’s I’m surprised there’s not more talk of Max “Mid-Court” Abmas, the 6’1” NCAA’s leading scorer out of Oral Roberts. At 24.6 PPG on 43% 3P% (8.3 3P shots per game) and 89% FT%, 4 assists and 3 rbpg I’d suggest we should have him on our radar in the second round (Tankathon has us taking him at 46)!

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Undersized but doesn't play defense.. don't see him getting selected here. Wouldn't be against him because he was impressive in the tourney but yeah. He reminds me of Tyrell Terry who the FO passed on

[MixxSRC]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

Why is age such a huge deal?

Norm Powell was a senior and played 6 years and 2 contracts for raptors and still only 28 now.

Are people worried about age when Mitchell is re-signing for his 4th contract?

well for example. Buddy Hield was drafted ahead of Murray. Hield was 24 years old and Murray was 19. Hield is 28 right now and Murray is only 24 not even approaching his prime and Hield is exiting his.

[hyper316]

Davion is same age is GTJ. something to think about

Why is age such a huge deal?

Norm Powell was a senior and played 6 years and 2 contracts for raptors and still only 28 now.

Are people worried about age when Mitchell is re-signing for his 4th contract?

well for example. Buddy Hield was drafted ahead of Murray. Hield was 24 years old and Murray was 19. Hield is 28 right now and Murray is only 23 not even approaching his prime and Hield is exiting his.

Kawhi is 29, by your logic Kawhi is past his prime.

[MixxSRC]

Why is age such a huge deal?

Norm Powell was a senior and played 6 years and 2 contracts for raptors and still only 28 now.

Are people worried about age when Mitchell is re-signing for his 4th contract?

well for example. Buddy Hield was drafted ahead of Murray. Hield was 24 years old and Murray was 19. Hield is 28 right now and Murray is only 23 not even approaching his prime and Hield is exiting his.

Kawhi is 29, by your logic Kawhi is past his prime.

That's when decline starts yes.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qkydgq/the-aging-of-lebron-james-why-its-all-downhill-once-nba-players-turn-30

and please don't bring up Lebron. He's a freak.

[hyper316]

well for example. Buddy Hield was drafted ahead of Murray. Hield was 24 years old and Murray was 19. Hield is 28 right now and Murray is only 23 not even approaching his prime and Hield is exiting his.

Kawhi is 29, by your logic Kawhi is past his prime.

That's when decline starts yes.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qkydgq/the-aging-of-lebron-james-why-its-all-downhill-once-nba-players-turn-30

Is decline such a bad thing when a star player's peak is so much higher than the average player. A 36 year old LeBron is still heads and shoulders over the average league player. Even a 33 year old Lowry helped carry the raps to championship. Even this season as a 35 year old showing at times being the best player on the team.

I'm glad Masai is running the team because he recognize the league GMs have inefficiency in rating older prospects and Masai got good older rookies (Pascal, norm, fvv, etc).

Edit: haha nice try adding the last comment in not bringing up LeBron, the link you posted brought up LeBron lol

By same logic, Portland shouldnt have drafted Lillard with the 6th pick being 22 years old. Played 9 years of elite basketball for Portland and now 30 years old. I'd kill for raptors to have an all-star playing for 9 years no matter what.

Just recognize there is a bias in the league on age and drafting one-and-done prospects and there are great players being overlooked

Edit #2: your argument with hield and Murray is a weak example and not equal value. If Murray is 28 and Hield is 23, id take Murray because he's the better player. Hield is just not a good player

[MixxSRC]

Kawhi is 29, by your logic Kawhi is past his prime.

That's when decline starts yes.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qkydgq/the-aging-of-lebron-james-why-its-all-downhill-once-nba-players-turn-30

Is decline such a bad thing when a star player's peak is so much higher than the average player. A 36 year old LeBron is still heads and shoulders over the average league player. Even a 33 year old Lowry helped carry the raps to championship. Even this season as a 35 year old showing at times being the best player on the team.

I'm glad Masai is running the team because he recognize the league GMs have inefficiency in rating older prospects and Masai got good older rookies (Pascal, norm, fvv, etc).

Edit: haha nice try adding the last comment in not bringing up LeBron, the link you posted brought up LeBron lol

By same logic, Portland shouldnt have drafted Lillard with the 6th pick being 22 years old. Played 9 years of elite basketball for Portland and now 30 years old. I'd kill for raptors to have an all-star playing for 9 years no matter what.

Just recognize there is a bias in the league on age and drafting one-and-done prospects and there are great players being overlooked

Edit #2: your argument with hield and Murray is a weak example and not equal value. If Murray is 28 and Hield is 23, id take Murray because he's the better player. Hield is just not a good player

Wow so Davion Mitchell is Lillard now. Ok. If Davion Mitchell was averaging what Lillard was averaging I wouldn't mind taking him.

for your Edt #2: Ok in that case there are better players than Mitchell in this draft and younger.

Look up Hield's college stats and look Davion's

[God Squad]

I need to lottery to hurry up. I can pretty much talk myself into any prospect, and it's bothersome to see everyone downplay and disagree on prospects. At the end of they day they all have issues and if they didn't the draft would be top 8 instead of top 5.

Sengun - Defense/size
Bouknight - Tunnel vision/consistency
Keon - 3pt range/size
Davion - age/ft/jumper
Jalen J - Maturity red flags
Scottie B - offense is rough
Moddy - creation/ceiling
Giddey - defense/shooting

[Steelo Green]

“It’s Cade or bust”

No... most of tWo has said Johnson’s probably the best pick considering the circumstance.

People could have scrolled up the thread instead of spouting conjecture.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

As exciting as it is to think of Cade running point with FVV while switching on defence, let’s not overlook our 2 second round picks. As mentioned a few days ago, the Raptors are a team that hasn’t been scared of taking a gamble on short PG’s I’m surprised there’s not more talk of Max “Mid-Court” Abmas, the 6’1” NCAA’s leading scorer out of Oral Roberts. At 24.6 PPG on 43% 3P% (8.3 3P shots per game) and 89% FT%, 4 assists and 3 rbpg I’d suggest we should have him on our radar in the second round (Tankathon has us taking him at 46)!

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