Who would you give for KD? Pascal/Scottie/Neither?
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Pascal is our present - you can't trade him if you're hoping to compete for a chip this window (which is the only reason you'd get KD)
Scottie is our future - you can't trade him unless it makes us the favourites for the next few years (it won't).
The answer is neither. If we can get KD in a dollar for four quarters type trade, you do it. But we're not giving up our present or future to make it happen.
Scottie is our future - you can't trade him unless it makes us the favourites for the next few years (it won't).
The answer is neither. If we can get KD in a dollar for four quarters type trade, you do it. But we're not giving up our present or future to make it happen.
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Hell no to Barnes trade... but yes to deal surrounding Pascal & OG or Gary Trent..
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There is likely only 1-5 players in the league i would trade Barnes for, and that list does not include Durant.
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I would say no. It's just too hard to placate KD for a significant period of time and he also has significant injury risk.

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tecumseh18 wrote:Pascal has proven to be the best #2 option in the league. The whole point should be to combine him and another superstar, not trade him for one. And Scottie is absolutely untouchable, especially for an of-injured, soon-to-be 34 yr old. Not even a consideration.
Scottie can be that #2.

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MavCarter wrote:There is 0 point in trading for KD if you don't have another win now star in pascal beside him. You only have a short amount of time in kds prime left you dont have time to build a team around him organically. I also wouldn't trade scottie for him. I don't see how we're a good fit for KD with brooklyns asking price
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WaltFrazier wrote:Last night Bobby Marks showed a list of guys, bam being the best one, of guys who are on a rookie extension and so can't go to Nets because they already have Simmons on the same type contract. Would it be crazy to try to get Ben for cheap because the Nets would like to be free to add a different guy on one of those contracts?
I was just listening to an interview with Marks and he said Toronto is by far “the cleanest” deal to be made.
He said every other suitor for Durant gets complicated due to lack of assets and contractual issues such as the Bam/Simmons rookie contract extension rules.
He noted that the Raps have their picks, good young talent and salaries to make a deal that doesn’t over complicate things.
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Scottie
Fred
KD
Siakam
Precious
Depth:
Porter jr
Banton
Thad
Boucher
Champagnie
Koloko
Where does that team rank in the east?
Fred
KD
Siakam
Precious
Depth:
Porter jr
Banton
Thad
Boucher
Champagnie
Koloko
Where does that team rank in the east?
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I'm not in favor of any player who feels he's bigger than the team he plays for. No way I'm trading away our stability as a franchise and the empowerment of a first rate front office staff for a player who will almost surely dictate how this franchise is run.
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Raps Next GM wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Last night Bobby Marks showed a list of guys, bam being the best one, of guys who are on a rookie extension and so can't go to Nets because they already have Simmons on the same type contract. Would it be crazy to try to get Ben for cheap because the Nets would like to be free to add a different guy on one of those contracts?
I was just listening to an interview with Marks and he said Toronto is by far “the cleanest” deal to be made.
He said every other suitor for Durant gets complicated due to lack of assets and contractual issues such as the Bam/Simmons rookie contract extension rules.
He noted that the Raps have their picks, good young talent and salaries to make a deal that doesn’t over complicate things.
KD has to want TO, is the issue
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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WaltFrazier wrote:Raps Next GM wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Last night Bobby Marks showed a list of guys, bam being the best one, of guys who are on a rookie extension and so can't go to Nets because they already have Simmons on the same type contract. Would it be crazy to try to get Ben for cheap because the Nets would like to be free to add a different guy on one of those contracts?
I was just listening to an interview with Marks and he said Toronto is by far “the cleanest” deal to be made.
He said every other suitor for Durant gets complicated due to lack of assets and contractual issues such as the Bam/Simmons rookie contract extension rules.
He noted that the Raps have their picks, good young talent and salaries to make a deal that doesn’t over complicate things.
KD has to want TO, is the issue
KD doesn't have a no trade clause.
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Jerry Lucas wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Raps Next GM wrote:
I was just listening to an interview with Marks and he said Toronto is by far “the cleanest” deal to be made.
He said every other suitor for Durant gets complicated due to lack of assets and contractual issues such as the Bam/Simmons rookie contract extension rules.
He noted that the Raps have their picks, good young talent and salaries to make a deal that doesn’t over complicate things.
KD has to want TO, is the issue
KD doesn't have a no trade clause.
Yeah but we don't trade great young pieces for him, at his age, unless he's on board with coming.
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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Give up Siakam and then what? Make FVV the 2nd option...lol
That team is going no where. Goal is to pair Siakam with KD
That team is going no where. Goal is to pair Siakam with KD
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WaltFrazier wrote:Jerry Lucas wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:KD has to want TO, is the issue
KD doesn't have a no trade clause.
Yeah but we don't trade great young pieces for him, at his age, unless he's on board with coming.
No one of KD's caliber is going to list the Toronto Raptors as a preferred trade destination. However if Nets FO ends up telling him Masai has the best offer on the table I doubt KD would be opposed to it.
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tecumseh18 wrote:The Doug has weighed in, with characteristically the WRONG take.
I can't read the article, but it seems clear what he's saying.
Holy **** **** my mind cant even grasp what Doug is...lmao...
"The rest of a Raptors package would most certainly have to include two other very good players from among OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet.
Toss in five or six draft picks or pick swaps — that’s the kind of haul the Nets will want — and it would be an unprecedented transaction."
I just shut things down at this point and my brain curled up into a fetalbrain. I stopped reading.
Edit: Honestly, let Doug do his thing. He's not bringing any harm into the world, he's covered the team for a long time. I shouldn't make fun of him.

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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Edit: Honestly, let Doug do his thing. He's not bringing any harm into the world, he's covered the team for a long time. I shouldn't make fun of him.
His past health issues don’t preclude him from criticism. It’s an awful suggestion to say the Raptors should consider levelling their team for Durant, which is what that trade would do.
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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:The Doug has weighed in, with characteristically the WRONG take.
I can't read the article, but it seems clear what he's saying.
Holy **** **** my mind cant even grasp what Doug is...lmao...
"The rest of a Raptors package would most certainly have to include two other very good players from among OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet.
Toss in five or six draft picks or pick swaps — that’s the kind of haul the Nets will want — and it would be an unprecedented transaction."
I just shut things down at this point and my brain curled up into a fetalbrain. I stopped reading.
Edit: Honestly, let Doug do his thing. He's not bringing any harm into the world, he's covered the team for a long time. I shouldn't make fun of him.
Honestly, this article is so absurd, so awful, so wrong, that Doug needs to either transferred out of Sports and allowed only to write obituaries or be fired immediately for gross incompetence.
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after the Gobert trade that just happened, Doug may actually end up correct on the pick compensation
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Tacoma wrote:GreatWhiteStiff wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:The Doug has weighed in, with characteristically the WRONG take.
I can't read the article, but it seems clear what he's saying.
Holy **** **** my mind cant even grasp what Doug is...lmao...
"The rest of a Raptors package would most certainly have to include two other very good players from among OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet.
Toss in five or six draft picks or pick swaps — that’s the kind of haul the Nets will want — and it would be an unprecedented transaction."
I just shut things down at this point and my brain curled up into a fetalbrain. I stopped reading.
Edit: Honestly, let Doug do his thing. He's not bringing any harm into the world, he's covered the team for a long time. I shouldn't make fun of him.
Honestly, this article is so absurd, so awful, so wrong, that Doug needs to either transferred out of Sports and allowed only to write obituaries or be fired immediately for gross incompetence.
It's absurdly bad. Absurdity to the nth degree.

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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Tacoma wrote:GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
Holy **** **** my mind cant even grasp what Doug is...lmao...
"The rest of a Raptors package would most certainly have to include two other very good players from among OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet.
Toss in five or six draft picks or pick swaps — that’s the kind of haul the Nets will want — and it would be an unprecedented transaction."
I just shut things down at this point and my brain curled up into a fetalbrain. I stopped reading.
Edit: Honestly, let Doug do his thing. He's not bringing any harm into the world, he's covered the team for a long time. I shouldn't make fun of him.
Honestly, this article is so absurd, so awful, so wrong, that Doug needs to either transferred out of Sports and allowed only to write obituaries or be fired immediately for gross incompetence.
It's absurdly bad. Absurdity to the nth degree.
OK, here's my conspiracy theory. Raps prompted Doug to write this drivel to prime the fanbase, so when a trade involving some of these pieces actually happens, it doesn't look nearly as bad. We all let out a collective "Whew!", the way I did when OG and/or Pascal didn't go out in the trade for Kawhi.
Thoughts?