WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG (Smh its just the Knicks)

[ChillPill]

Maybe if the offer is like Murray's - 3 1sts, a swap, a useful player. Maybe.

I agree that Portland sounds like the team to trade with. They seem desperate but they're also not good, and Dame is getting old.

[douggood]

Maybe if the offer is like Murray's - 3 1sts, a swap, a useful player. Maybe.

I agree that Portland sounds like the team to trade with. They seem desperate but they're also not good, and Dame is getting old.

Portland's 1st round pick to Chicago protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024, 1-14 in 2025, 1-14 in 2026, 1-14 in 2027 and 1-14 in 2028

[Dalek]

OG is a legit DPOY level defender that takes on beasts like Embiid and Jokic on a nightly basis, or KD, or Kawhi, or Harden, or Ja... He's THE best 3&D guy in the entire league with some upside remaining in playmaking. He's plug and play in all 30 teams today and for the rest of his career. This is to say if we trade him, we have to create that bidding war. No doubt in my mind he's worth more than 3 late lottery picks in today's environment.

There is also no rush to move him. He is under contract for at least another year. He has age on his side and fits well with Scottie. I don't see any sense of urgency to move him unless they get a big time offer.

[OakleyDokely]

NO is the easiest trade partner. They have good young players on rookie deals plus lots of picks.

[WuTang_CMB]

Need at least 2 of them unprotected else no thanks

[Rapsfan07]

Three firsts sets the market. I would think he is equivalent to Dejounte Murray. Spurs got:

Danilo Gallinari
2023 first-round pick via Charlotte Hornets
2025 first-round pick via Atlanta Hawks (unprotected)
2026 first-round pick swap via Atlanta Hawks
2027 first-round pick via Atlanta Hawks (unprotected)

OG is signed for a couple more years, so I'd want unprotected firsts like the Spurs received. I could live with three firsts, if OG actually brought back a viable young player as well. The Spurs getting Gallo was not that helpful, and I would think Toronto wants a player back to play now.

/edit The Pelicans can give us that 2023 LA pick swap, their own 2023 pick, and a 2025 pick plus we can ask for Daniels or Murphy III plus Graham. That seems like fair value.

I don't know about this. I have Murray as more valuable than OG but not by much.

I do agree though that the Pels are a great destination if they're willing to do a package around that LAL 2023 1st.

I can see that argument about Murray because he has such great shot creation ability. OG is just such an easy fit for any roster. He shoots it well enough and can guard any position. Murray is a good defender, but he is more of a gambler plus he has to have the ball in his hands. The Hawks were a perfect match because they needed a 1b to help Trae out.

New Orleans
Portland
Brooklyn
Cleveland
Dallas

All those teams should be willing to go all-in for OG because they all sit in the middle and want to appease either their current stars and/or their fanbase.

I agree here as well.

I'd probably count out Brooklyn and Dallas as they don't have as much to offer as say Cleveland, Portland and NOLA.

[NeoDragonKnight]

Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 protected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.

[Rapsfan07]

Maybe if the offer is like Murray's - 3 1sts, a swap, a useful player. Maybe.

I agree that Portland sounds like the team to trade with. They seem desperate but they're also not good, and Dame is getting old.

Portland's 1st round pick to Chicago protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024, 1-14 in 2025, 1-14 in 2026, 1-14 in 2027 and 1-14 in 2028

Chicago is a great destination for FVV. They need a lead guard with Ball out and have already moved a lot of picks. They have no incentive to tank now or in the near future.

Moving FVV there and then sending SIakam to the Blazers for a haul will ensure the Blazers pick falls out of the lotto, guaranteeing us their 2023 pick, as well as the other futures we received in the SIakam deal.

If OG or even Trent is to be moved, NOLA or New York will ensure us some extra picks and youth.

[Tha Cynic]

I would only trade OG to fill another hole on the roster like PG with a player of equal value and young. Only picks isn't worth it imo.

[Jcity08]

Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.

I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?

[ItsDanger]

OG is the type of player you don't just trade for picks. Need a quality young piece like a Daniels or Sharpe plus pick(s) in return. And I don't pull the trigger on this kind of deal unless Fred and maybe Trent is already traded.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Memphis fits this, they have 4 firsts (Their own + GS).

Something like Brooks+Green and picks.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.

I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?

He's telling you that late first/second round picks aren't good value. So, you were led to believe the correct thing.

[Jcity08]

Man I am glad some of you guys are not GMs, 3 unprotected late round, potentially 2nd round picks? really? You think you can get a Defensive Player of the year or first team defensive player from that? Because that is what you are giving up. You need at least one high level guaranteed asset coming back, whether it is another player coming back or unprotected draft picks. Teams highly covet a player like this, and they are on every championship contending team, unless you get blown away, you keep OG and focus trading the other guys like FVV, Trent and even Siakam, whos skill sets are way more common.

I was led to believe the placement of a pick doesnt matter, whats the harm in sliding down to 2nd round picks? Masai will still draft in the top of the class, when they zig we zag, right?

He's telling you that late first/second round picks aren't good value. So, you were led to believe the correct thing.

But Masai can get results at any pick, why worry about what pick we have? We got Thad for free too right? Siakam was a late first too, we got FVV undrafted, why do we care about where picks land now? We can just get another Siakam. Im not worried.

Look at all the franchise who traded their players for a bunch of picks mid to early 1st round picks, what has that gotten them, we got our championship from a once in a lifetime trade, why do we need to stoop to their level.

We'll win another chip with a bunch of late first and 2nd round picks, no problem.

[Los_29]

I think you have to be greedy here. Something similar to what Dejounte got and I'd do it. It would be so tough to see OG go but at that kind of value, how can you say no?

[tecumseh18]

NO is the easiest trade partner. They have good young players on rookie deals plus lots of picks.

I want those two LA picks they have. More importantly, so does Masai (undoubtedly). Plus Dyson. Such a cool name.

Pels have been losing lately: 3-7 in their last 10. I love the smell of desperation in the morning. It smells like ... victory.

[James_Raptors]

They won't be in the 20s tho. Its very unlikely the Pistons will go from bottom 5 to top 10. What's more likely is by the time 2026 comes, they'll be trending up and one season we will get a pick in the 10-15 range. Same w the Mavs. That roster is not going to be top 10. its going to be a teen pick.

The wizards? They might be bad until 2026 w how they draft but I'd still doubt it. They picked #10 this year and will probably be around that range again this season. I think you end up with 3 late lottery picks tbh

We have no idea who made the offer.

The knicks really want OG. It's been rumoured multiple times. Where there is smoke there is fire. tbh I still think 3 picks in the 20s is not that bad for OG. You aren't gonna go into the tax to keep this roster when we are currently bottom 7. You gotta maximize your assets.

We did pick OG in the 20s btw....

Practically every team in the league would love OG, they ask NY to hold their beer.
Where we drafted OG is irrelevant to this discussion.

[OakleyDokely]

It never made sense to me to trade OG for picks, if you're keeping Siakam. You either add talent around Siakam or you trade him. And if you're trading Siakam, that means you're rebuilding, so why would you want to trade a 25 year old OG who fits around Barnes and is young enough to keep during a rebuild.

[TorontoBarneys]

It never made sense to me to trade OG for picks, if you're keeping Siakam. You either add talent around Siakam or you trade him. And if you're trading Siakam, that means you're rebuilding, so why would you want to trade a 25 year old OG who fits around Barnes and is young enough to keep during a rebuild.

Agreed. It makes more sense to me to deal Siakam for picks and young talent and help flesh out the roster more. Despite being the better player, Siakam is a lot more disruptive to our team building efforts than OG ever will be.

[Los_29]

NO is the easiest trade partner. They have good young players on rookie deals plus lots of picks.

I want those two LA picks they have. More importantly, so does Masai (undoubtedly). Plus Dyson. Such a cool name.

Pels have been losing lately: 3-7 in their last 10. I love the smell of desperation in the morning. It smells like ... victory.

I'd love to get Dyson from the Pelicans. Really like his game. Raptors worked him out in the offseason, I would not be surprised if they like his game as well. Can't shoot so he'd fit perfectly here. But he's got a lot of talent.