Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[Sidthekid87]

So was Ross when he had a 50pt game for us. Lol

Say you haven't watched Murphy without saying you haven't watched Murphy lol. I can already see him becoming better than OG as soon as next year but definitely by year 4.

He is averaging 13pts/game this season. He has break out potential but he is not some untouchable player.
His FG % is 49% which is nothing special. The average FG% across the league is 45%. Hes just above average for that this year.

He's a great player actually. I would make a deal with him and og being the center pieces in a heartbeat

[cbosh4mvp]

If we can get KD and CP3 on our team by getting rid of FVV/OG/Trent, you do it.

CP3
Curry
Barnes
Siakam
Precious

hire this man!

KD would be the best 6th man in history.

****, I knew I was missing something lol. Even as I was writing this, I said , wtf Seth curry at the 2?

[ForeverTFC]

The Suns are known as a potential suitor for Toronto Raptors guard Fred VanVleet, but once Irving became available, Phoenix shifted its focus to the Irving market.

https://theathletic.com/4158739/2023/02/05/kyrie-irving-trade-mavericks-lakers-suns-shams/

Rumor is they offered CP3, Crowder and picks for Irving. Clippers offered Mann, Kennard, a pick and 2 pick swaps.

I would take that Clippers deal for FVV. Suns offer is trash.

[Pointgod]

Say you haven't watched Murphy without saying you haven't watched Murphy lol. I can already see him becoming better than OG as soon as next year but definitely by year 4.

He is averaging 13pts/game this season. He has break put potential but he is nit some untouchable player.
His FG % is 49% which is nothing special. The average FG% across the league is 45%. Hes just above average for that this year.

Dude it's his 2nd year and has a 64 TS%, which is ridiculously good. I stand by my comment about him being a better player than OG by his Year 4 latest.

Offensively he can be really good, but he’s not coming close to OG’s defence.

[Tor_Raps]

He is averaging 13pts/game this season. He has break put potential but he is nit some untouchable player.
His FG % is 49% which is nothing special. The average FG% across the league is 45%. Hes just above average for that this year.

Dude it's his 2nd year and has a 64 TS%, which is ridiculously good. I stand by my comment about him being a better player than OG by his Year 4 latest.

Offensively he can be really good, but he’s not coming close to OG’s defence.

There a lot of players who won't come close to Marcus Smarts defense but there are still plenty of players who are more valuable than him overall. Thats all I was trying to say in that I believe Murphy will be more valuable than OG very shortly.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I'm going to guess Anunoby and Flynn to POR for Sharpe, Payton III, Little, and 2 1sts and VanVleet and Birch to LAC for Kennard, Covington, and a future 1st

POR:

Lillard/Flynn/Williams
Simons/Hart/Johnson
Anunoby/Winslow/Watford
Grant/Walker/Brown
Nurkic/Eubanks/Butler

TOR:

Kennard/Payton III/Banton
Trent Jr./Sharpe/Dowtin/Harper
Barnes/Covington/Little/Porter
Siakam/Young/Hernangomez
Achiuwa/Boucher/Koloko

LAC:

VanVleet/Jackson/Preston
George/Powell/Coffey
Leonard/Mann/Boston Jr.
Batum/Morris/Diabate
Zubac/Birch/Brown

='Ship

[HumbleRen]

Dude it's his 2nd year and has a 64 TS%, which is ridiculously good. I stand by my comment about him being a better player than OG by his Year 4 latest.

Offensively he can be really good, but he’s not coming close to OG’s defence.

There a lot of players who won't come close to Marcus Smarts defense but there are still plenty of players who are more valuable than him overall. Thats all I was trying to say in that I believe Murphy will be more valuable than OG very shortly.

I was telling my friend the other day that automatically assumed we could get Dyson/Murphy and picks for OG lol.

Pels hang up the phone laughing at Masai imo. Murphy is 100% going to be a 20 point caliber scorer while still being on a rookie scale deal, that’s just too valuable to give up.

If Masai manages to get that haul for OG, ima take back every single thing that I’ve said about the FO over the last year and half lol.

[Oakvillehoops]

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He should be considered untouchable.

So was Ross when he had a 50pt game for us. Lol

Willie hernangomez also had a career game

[Tha Cynic]

If we can get KD and CP3 on our team by getting rid of FVV/OG/Trent, you do it.

CP3
Curry
Barnes
Siakam
Precious

hire this man!

KD would be the best 6th man in history.

And the Nets threw in Curry for good measure.

[Dude-niagara]

Trades are gonna come I can feel it

I think everyone is finally going to see what a gutless man Masai really is behind the used car salesman TALK, I pray I am proven wrong. Sadly I expect Masai will do zero other some sideways deal that brings us another bench scrub. A majority of the city and fanbase cannot stand watching this selfish team play this season and that all points to one player who he will not trade and most likely give 140 million plus over 4 years. If you thought Fred was taking too many shots before, just wait until after the deadline.

The reality If Masai was going to make a deal it would have happened by now, just look at the Nets and how fast they moved on Irving. Like what was the purpose of waiting until this road trip was over? You are what you are and there was more than enough evidence they were terrible before this trip

Now he already has his media mouth pieces talking crap to fans about how the team is playing better. They beat the worse team in the NBA the Rockets and then beat a Memphis team missing 3 starters including a top 3 NBA player. Why are so many fans cheering for them to lose? maybe because we know this team is poorly constructed and losing forces change and it also gets you a high pick.

Don't say I did not warn you all because Fred is already talking BS about the team playing well and also looking ahead at the many fake wins coming against garbage teams they will be playing over the next two weeks. Again I hope some of you are right and he trades Fred or at least one of the core not named Barnes. I just don't think he has it in him after the DD trade which left him feeling bad because DD went away crying. Check all the sites that cover the Raptors, everyone wants change and # 1 change would be trading the top ball PIG Fred on this team.

[Dude-niagara]

please do not stand pat, i beg.

Going to be a bad week ahead for Raptors fans, Masai will do nothing but some small tweak trades. Keeping his two fake stars and going to pay them what they want. Just think they are both turning 29 and we complained about Lowry and DD who did way more before that age as two top options. You really think Barnes will ever get a consistent higher usage role with those two in front and also add the third pig Gary?

[Dude-niagara]

hire this man!

KD would be the best 6th man in history.

And the Nets threw in Curry for good measure.

I would settle for trading Fred for a bag of dirty jockstraps, he is a team cancer and only thinks of himself. Pretty sure he has picked his media buds on Barnes this season. Or did Doug follow Barnes all summer to know if and when he worked on his game?

[Madvillainy2004]

Trades are gonna come I can feel it

I think everyone is finally going to see what a gutless man Masai really is behind the used car salesman TALK, I pray I am proven wrong. Sadly I expect Masai will do zero other some sideways deal that brings us another bench scrub. A majority of the city and fanbase cannot stand watching this selfish team play this season and that all points to one player who he will not trade and most likely give 140 million plus over 4 years. If you thought Fred was taking too many shots before, just wait until after the deadline.

The reality If Masai was going to make a deal it would have happened by now, just look at the Nets and how fast they moved on Irving. Like what was the purpose of waiting until this road trip was over? You are what you are and there was more than enough evidence they were terrible before this trip

Now he already has his media mouth pieces talking crap to fans about how the team is playing better. They beat the worse team in the NBA the Rockets and then beat a Memphis team missing 3 starters including a top 3 NBA player. Why are so many fans cheering for them to lose? maybe because we know this team is poorly constructed and losing forces change and it also gets you a high pick.

Don't say I did not warn you all because Fred is already talking BS about the team playing well and also looking ahead at the many fake wins coming against garbage teams they will be playing over the next two weeks. Again I hope some of you are right and he trades Fred or at least one of the core not named Barnes. I just don't think he has it in him after the DD trade which left him feeling bad because DD went away crying. Check all the sites that cover the Raptors, everyone wants change and # 1 change would be trading the top ball PIG Fred on this team.

Masai would never make a big trade don't think I remember any happening before. Not for guys who were here for a long time like JV and DeMar lol

Also wait wait who's the top 3 NBA player on Memphis?? Surely you don't mean Ja Morant lol

[Ell Curry]

This will never happen but I'm intrigued by the idea of trading most of the team for Mikal Bridges.

Something like this:

Lakers - Chris Paul, Crowder
Suns: Siakam, OG and Van Vleet,
Raptors: Bridges, Westbrook, Saric, Max Christie, Lakers 1st, 2 Phoenix firsts

Lakers run out Paul-Beverley-Lebron-Crowder-AD as starters and Bryant, Rui, Reaves/Brown, Lonnie Walker as the bench and pray for a buyout guy or movie Walker and Damien Jones and 2nds for like Alec Burks, then have the MLE next year to try to get a passable wing to sign with them.

Suns have VanVleet-Booker-OG-Siakam-Ayton as a terrifying starting 5, those are basically the 2 players the Raptors have shown you need around our trio (as long as Ayton is trying on D) and Cam Johnson is a perfect backup forward/2 guard option. They can sign a backup PG or center for the MLE in the summer and plug one hole and still have picks to add another

Raptors tank for the rest of this year and with a ton of cap space in the summer can go after a FA at PG, let's say Russell, and throw out Russell-Trent-Bridges-Barnes-Precious with 3 extra firsts. That starting forward combo of Bridges at the 3 and Barnes at the 4 looks like it could be fantastic at both ends in 2 years and as a fit, and the guards are under 26, Precious and Koloko are young and you have extra picks to let Masai hopefully Siakam and not Flynn the draft, or to use in trades to get a quality starting center, a Wing or a Jordan Clarkson type depending on if we get a Wemby, Scoot, a Wing or a Combo Guard with our top 10 pick (secured by us having no PG for the rest of the year, it's Flynn or Dowtin getting their one serious shot to prove they're a backup PG in the league and not a GLeague/Europe/3rd string/10day type).

[Slim Charless]

Trades are gonna come I can feel it

I think everyone is finally going to see what a gutless man Masai really is behind the used car salesman TALK, I pray I am proven wrong. Sadly I expect Masai will do zero other some sideways deal that brings us another bench scrub. A majority of the city and fanbase cannot stand watching this selfish team play this season and that all points to one player who he will not trade and most likely give 140 million plus over 4 years. If you thought Fred was taking too many shots before, just wait until after the deadline.

The reality If Masai was going to make a deal it would have happened by now, just look at the Nets and how fast they moved on Irving. Like what was the purpose of waiting until this road trip was over? You are what you are and there was more than enough evidence they were terrible before this trip

Now he already has his media mouth pieces talking crap to fans about how the team is playing better. They beat the worse team in the NBA the Rockets and then beat a Memphis team missing 3 starters including a top 3 NBA player. Why are so many fans cheering for them to lose? maybe because we know this team is poorly constructed and losing forces change and it also gets you a high pick.

Don't say I did not warn you all because Fred is already talking BS about the team playing well and also looking ahead at the many fake wins coming against garbage teams they will be playing over the next two weeks. Again I hope some of you are right and he trades Fred or at least one of the core not named Barnes. I just don't think he has it in him after the DD trade which left him feeling bad because DD went away crying. Check all the sites that cover the Raptors, everyone wants change and # 1 change would be trading the top ball PIG Fred on this team.

I've been telling you guys for days that you're making a deal with us. Suns can't do announce any deals till Wed-when our new owner takes over. Sarver can still veto till then.

Watch. Tuesday night stuff start to roll out between our 2 teams...

Ayton/FRP/Jae Crowder for OG/Koloko/OPJ

[Zeno]

Trades are gonna come I can feel it

I think everyone is finally going to see what a gutless man Masai really is behind the used car salesman TALK, I pray I am proven wrong. Sadly I expect Masai will do zero other some sideways deal that brings us another bench scrub. A majority of the city and fanbase cannot stand watching this selfish team play this season and that all points to one player who he will not trade and most likely give 140 million plus over 4 years. If you thought Fred was taking too many shots before, just wait until after the deadline.

The reality If Masai was going to make a deal it would have happened by now, just look at the Nets and how fast they moved on Irving. Like what was the purpose of waiting until this road trip was over? You are what you are and there was more than enough evidence they were terrible before this trip

Now he already has his media mouth pieces talking crap to fans about how the team is playing better. They beat the worse team in the NBA the Rockets and then beat a Memphis team missing 3 starters including a top 3 NBA player. Why are so many fans cheering for them to lose? maybe because we know this team is poorly constructed and losing forces change and it also gets you a high pick.

Don't say I did not warn you all because Fred is already talking BS about the team playing well and also looking ahead at the many fake wins coming against garbage teams they will be playing over the next two weeks. Again I hope some of you are right and he trades Fred or at least one of the core not named Barnes. I just don't think he has it in him after the DD trade which left him feeling bad because DD went away crying. Check all the sites that cover the Raptors, everyone wants change and # 1 change would be trading the top ball PIG Fred on this team.

I've been telling you guys for days that you're making a deal with us. Suns can't do announce any deals till Wed-when our new owner takes over. Sarver can still veto till then.

Watch. Tuesday night stuff start to roll out between our 2 teams...

Ayton/FRP/Jae Crowder for OG/Koloko/OPJ

It's not that I doubt you but I doubt your math in that deal. That's 40 million going out from Suns and only 25 million going back to you guys.

[SurgeIblocka]

please do not stand pat, i beg.

Going to be a bad week ahead for Raptors fans, Masai will do nothing but some small tweak trades. Keeping his two fake stars and going to pay them what they want. Just think they are both turning 29 and we complained about Lowry and DD who did way more before that age as two top options. You really think Barnes will ever get a consistent higher usage role with those two in front and also add the third pig Gary?

Someones getting a little ansy lol. I can confidently say OG will definitely be moved, Fred on the other hand depending on the offers he may decide to do a sign and trade later ( which i think is a mistake ) . But we definitely will be trading OG, because his camp has made it clear he wants out and no nees to keep a player who is malcontent.

[Ell Curry]

Masai would never make a big trade don't think I remember any happening before. Not for guys who were here like JV and DeMar lol

Man, I genuinely don't know how so many people here are this mad when Masai got us that 2019 team. Gasol, Ibaka, Kawhi, Van Vleet, Norm, Siakam and OG. Damn near every other GM had us looking like the Orlando Ibaka-era Magic instead.

He's made mistakes since then, but I still think it's likelier that not he builds a 2nd great team, and that's all you can really ask for.

[SurgeIblocka]

I think everyone is finally going to see what a gutless man Masai really is behind the used car salesman TALK, I pray I am proven wrong. Sadly I expect Masai will do zero other some sideways deal that brings us another bench scrub. A majority of the city and fanbase cannot stand watching this selfish team play this season and that all points to one player who he will not trade and most likely give 140 million plus over 4 years. If you thought Fred was taking too many shots before, just wait until after the deadline.

The reality If Masai was going to make a deal it would have happened by now, just look at the Nets and how fast they moved on Irving. Like what was the purpose of waiting until this road trip was over? You are what you are and there was more than enough evidence they were terrible before this trip

Now he already has his media mouth pieces talking crap to fans about how the team is playing better. They beat the worse team in the NBA the Rockets and then beat a Memphis team missing 3 starters including a top 3 NBA player. Why are so many fans cheering for them to lose? maybe because we know this team is poorly constructed and losing forces change and it also gets you a high pick.

Don't say I did not warn you all because Fred is already talking BS about the team playing well and also looking ahead at the many fake wins coming against garbage teams they will be playing over the next two weeks. Again I hope some of you are right and he trades Fred or at least one of the core not named Barnes. I just don't think he has it in him after the DD trade which left him feeling bad because DD went away crying. Check all the sites that cover the Raptors, everyone wants change and # 1 change would be trading the top ball PIG Fred on this team.

I've been telling you guys for days that you're making a deal with us. Suns can't do announce any deals till Wed-when our new owner takes over. Sarver can still veto till then.

Watch. Tuesday night stuff start to roll out between our 2 teams...

Ayton/FRP/Jae Crowder for OG/Koloko/OPJ

It's not that I doubt you but I doubt your math in that deal. That's 40 million going out from Suns and only 25 million going back to you guys.

If he is legit ( which i hope not because i dont want Ayton) then the deal would work if its a three team trade and Crowder goes to another team)

I also dont think he has a source because Phoenix is saying they are interested in Durant, well they would need Ayton to trade for him. This trade would take them out of the running for KD now and in the summer

[Ell Curry]

Offensively he can be really good, but he’s not coming close to OG’s defence.

There a lot of players who won't come close to Marcus Smarts defense but there are still plenty of players who are more valuable than him overall. Thats all I was trying to say in that I believe Murphy will be more valuable than OG very shortly.

I was telling my friend the other day that automatically assumed we could get Dyson/Murphy and picks for OG lol.

Pels hang up the phone laughing at Masai imo. Murphy is 100% going to be a 20 point caliber scorer while still being on a rookie scale deal, that’s just too valuable to give up.

If Masai manages to get that haul for OG, ima take back every single thing that I’ve said about the FO over the last year and half lol.

I could see OG for Murphy, Graham and Hayes because the Pels get so much flexiblity around Ingram or Zion and keep a ton of roster flexibility by keeping their picks. They still probably need a PG but Alvarado isn't horrible and they can also try Daniels-McCollum-Ingram-Zion-OG and just have length and shooting around Daniels and ZIon, and they also have picks and Herb Jones to try to go get a PG in the summer or next deadline.

But my guess is the current Pels offer is something like Herb Jones, Graham, Hayes and a pair of firsts for OG, and we're hoping they blink. Alvarado-McCollum-Murphy-Jones-Ingram-Zion-OG-Nance-JV is still a very serious top 9 for the playoffs if Zion/Ingram are healthy and scoring, with Daniels given a year to develop his shot before joining the rotation.