Woj Bomb: Hawks fire McMillan

[bballsparkin]

Do they really think chsnging the coach is going to change their fortunes around? Nate isnt the issue.

What other choice do they have? Nate is a hard ass in an era of entitled players. GM's went all in. Bye bye Nate.

[JRoy]

Hardly a bomb.
More like a slow release fart.

Actually surprised it has taken this long for the Hawks to give McMillan the sack.

Another one for Trae Young.

I will refer to slow release farts only as Nate McMillans from now on.

[LastNameEver]

The writing was on the wall months ago, it actually worked against Hawks when they chose to keep him longer because Trae checked out mentally.

[kwajo]

I hope they hire Quinn, I can't wait of the gifs of his face when Trae lets people blow by him for layups or takes an ill-timed 3 from far too deep.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Maybe. Or maybe they just overperformed that year that they switched coaches to McMillan and went on that second half run that took them to the Conference Finals. That really seems to be the outlier here. It seems like they should be better, but maybe Trae is just a hard guy to build around.

Very fair points. Offensively the Hawks should be better than 14th in the league in offensive rating considering the firepower that they have. Team should be top 10, that’s a coaching issue.

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.

Unless the Raps really go on a tear to finish the season (not out of the question), I think Nurse will probably be asked by management to make some changes to his assistants in the off-season. That will probably serve as his "last chance" to get something out of this core. If they're still stumbling with inconsistent play 30 games into next year, then Nurse could be on the hot seat.

But in any case, if he does shuffle out some assistants, McMillan would definitely be an interesting guy to consider.

[djsunyc]

Very fair points. Offensively the Hawks should be better than 14th in the league in offensive rating considering the firepower that they have. Team should be top 10, that’s a coaching issue.

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.

Unless the Raps really go on a tear to finish the season (not out of the question), I think Nurse will probably be asked by management to make some changes to his assistants in the off-season. That will probably serve as his "last chance" to get something out of this core. If they're still stumbling with inconsistent play 30 games into next year, then Nurse could be on the hot seat.

But in any case, if he does shuffle out some assistants, McMillan would definitely be an interesting guy to consider.

we won't let nurse go into next season in the final year of his deal. he'll either get extended or we "mutually" part ways.

[JB7]

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.

Unless the Raps really go on a tear to finish the season (not out of the question), I think Nurse will probably be asked by management to make some changes to his assistants in the off-season. That will probably serve as his "last chance" to get something out of this core. If they're still stumbling with inconsistent play 30 games into next year, then Nurse could be on the hot seat.

But in any case, if he does shuffle out some assistants, McMillan would definitely be an interesting guy to consider.

we won't let nurse go into next season in the final year of his deal. he'll either get extended or we "mutually" part ways.

How can the FO blame Nurse for the team's performance, when even Masai himself has admitted the team was structurally flawed the last few years missing a legit C.

They probably give him a short term extension, and see what he can do with Poeltl over the next few seasons.

The only way Nurse is let go, is if there is a significant rift between him and Scottie.

[Raptors_128]

Trae Young is very underrated around there. You can’t teach offensive skill like that.

He’s immature but he’s still young.

If you can’t build a contender around Young then what are we doing with Siakam?

[ontnut]

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.

Unless the Raps really go on a tear to finish the season (not out of the question), I think Nurse will probably be asked by management to make some changes to his assistants in the off-season. That will probably serve as his "last chance" to get something out of this core. If they're still stumbling with inconsistent play 30 games into next year, then Nurse could be on the hot seat.

But in any case, if he does shuffle out some assistants, McMillan would definitely be an interesting guy to consider.

we won't let nurse go into next season in the final year of his deal. he'll either get extended or we "mutually" part ways.

Probably a short extension if anything, with a rejig of the assistant coaches. MLSE would be ok eating 2 years of a deal if they had to fire him next year. Plus it gives them a chance to evaluate some new assistants for the potential role of "interim coach" should the need to fire Nurse arise.

[Los_29]

I think Quinn has technically been in more 2nd round series than Nurse has lol.

He's been coaching for 8 years. lol.

I actually don't think he's a bad coach. He's just more of a regular season coach. Nurse was closer to advancing to the conference finals than Snyder was despite losing two starters (one of whom a top 5 player) and having to play a big man rotation that were on the verge of retirement. I don't think Nurse gets enough credit for what he did in that series. Snyder has never coached like that.

Nurse still had a top 5 player at the end of the day.

Snyder didn’t. That’s the difference.

Nurse did a great job on the Celtics series but he still lost to a weaker team. Raptors should of won that series but they didn’t.

Outside of his championship year, the ONLY playoff series win he has under his belt is the Brooklyn Nets who didn’t play KD or Kyrie. Hardly impressive in my books. I think Quinn is a properly rated coach and Nurse is a vastly overrated coach.

Yeah but Kawhi hasn't won anything in LA and didn't win anything in San Antonio after his 2014 championship playing alongside a trio of hall of famers.

Even without a top 5 player, Nurse has gone just as far in the playoffs as Snyder. In fact, Nurse was technically closer to advancing as game 7 went down to the wire. And at least Nurse's schemes actually work in the playoffs. Snyder's teams end up completely underperforming when games actually matter. Just look at their defensive rankings during the season compared to the playoffs.

Nurse can't control the fact that he lost half his championship roster. How many players have we lost from that championship team? 6? 7? Gasol, Ibaka, Norm, Kyle, Kawhi and Green. That's 6 of our top 8 players. That is absolutely insane. Despite losing an an enormous amount of talent, Nurse managed to win 48 games last year which is almost as many as Quinn won in his BEST season.

That's great that you think Nurse is vastly overrated. But according to people around the league, he is a very good coach, considered one of the best in the league. He's properly rated.

[Parataxis]

Very fair points. Offensively the Hawks should be better than 14th in the league in offensive rating considering the firepower that they have. Team should be top 10, that’s a coaching issue.

Yeah my thought was always that Nate found a way to improve his guards and make them more complete players, especially with him being a guard himself and an excellent defender. Too bad Trae doesn't defend. I think he's lightning fast but I feel his body would probably break down were he to actually play defense.

I wonder if he'd ever come to the Raps as an assistant? That would be fun.

Unless the Raps really go on a tear to finish the season (not out of the question), I think Nurse will probably be asked by management to make some changes to his assistants in the off-season.

Who has final hiring/firing authority for assistant coaches? Is it Nick? Webster? Masai?