Official RJ Barrett Thread

Bruin · Post #41 » by **Bruin** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:24 pm

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Jcity08 · Post #42 » by **Jcity08** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:32 pm

Maybe him and Barnes can motivate each other, Barnes is already ascending to heights and maybe that can help sharpen the blade. Reportedly he's a workaholic, gym rat. This could be good.

StopitLeo · Post #43 » by **StopitLeo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:32 pm

He’s going to benefit from not being expected to be a primary or secondary scoring option.

Raptorfan2012 · Post #44 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:33 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Unfortunately, I think he will be a punching bag for fans like he was for Knicks fans because he's so inconsistent, but I hope I'm wrong.

Quickley was the key piece of the deal for the Raps, but RJ as the filler contract, it could've been a lot worse than him.

I am super excited for both. Sad to see OG go but this was my favourite outcome out of all the rumoured OG trades.

And1Skip · Post #45 » by **And1Skip** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:37 pm

Jcity08 wrote:Maybe him and Barnes can motivate each other, Barnes is already ascending to heights and maybe that can help sharpen the blade. Reportedly he's a workaholic, gym rat. This could be good.

Both when to Montverde Academy though never cross paths as Barnes joined in 2019 and RJ left in 2018, but there's a bit of connection.

tanuki1031 · Post #46 » by **tanuki1031** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:01 pm

I think people are going to like RJ once they actually see him play vs. assuming how he plays.

You can already tell by the number of people calling him a chucker when he near exclusively takes 70% of FGAs from 0-10 FT off drives and cuts, another 27% from 3, and avoids long 2s and off balance mid-range Js like the plague.

He needs to finish better at the rim and make drives more physical to at least get FTs out of it.

The guy gives a **** about basketball and has always been about the team, true since U17 days to the NBA. Some people were hanging the FIBA loss to Brazil on RJ when no one including the coaching staff showed up for that game. You don't get nearly as far as that team did without RJ, who averaged 17 for the tournament behind SGA and was outstanding every game from QFs to the end.

RJ might not be underrated but for sure he is and has been underappreciated.

Klayforspicy · Post #47 » by **Klayforspicy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:02 pm

Im not worried about RJ, I think people will be surprised how good he looks as a 4th-5th option

PushDaRock · Post #48 » by **PushDaRock** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:06 pm

StopitLeo wrote:He’s going to benefit from not being expected to be a primary or secondary scoring option.

I'm not sure how this is the case when he was clearly behind Brunson and Randle as a scoring option too.

StopitLeo · Post #49 » by **StopitLeo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:56 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:He’s going to benefit from not being expected to be a primary or secondary scoring option.

I'm not sure how this is the case when he was clearly behind Brunson and Randle as a scoring option too.

He was 1A/1B for his first two years and I feel like that may have hurt his development.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #50 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:55 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:His floor is a better player than GTJ. I'll take it.

We can develop him further. He'll benefit from playing with Barnes, as well. He's only 23.

I mean GTJ has been pretty trashy recently. I really question the value of a guy who's value is in scoring and is pretty much the worst volume scorer in recent nba history, probably playin on a team with some of the worst spacing in history (not like it's been that much better in NY though).

Scase · Post #51 » by **Scase** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:27 am

I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

WuTang_CMB · Post #52 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:28 am

never liked his game even at duke
hope raps can get him better and change his game next to scottie

Boogie! · Post #53 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:27 am

Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

Basketball_Jones · Post #54 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:30 am

RJ’s always been kind of intriguing to me because he routinely toasts us whenever we play the Knicks. But you look at his numbers and it’s awful. But good speed/first step, shooting mechanics, footwork, okay handle, size, I don’t get what’s up with him? We obviously want to see what he’s got, but I hope they are prepared to lower his role and minutes if he continues to be trash.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #55 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:31 am

Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

The man is less efficient than FVV Boogie.

mademan · Post #56 » by **mademan** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:33 am

Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

Barrett has been a year over year negative player who hasnt improved since his 2nd year in the league. Sometimes, a change of scenery opens things up for a player, but im not sure how a guy who cant defend and cant shoot is a good fit with our best player

Boogie! · Post #57 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:43 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

The man is less efficient than FVV Boogie.

He’s also 23 and has skills that actually can translate into improvement… it’s **** weird to me how when we traded Powell for Gary Trent everyone was on Trent’s nuts acting like he had so much potential when it was obvious to me he was a one dimensional chucker, and then we trade for a guy 23 who was. Former top 3 pick who actually has a much more refined and versatile skillset with. Some semblance of actual basketball iq and people are dumping on him for efficiency acting like he can’t get better. I’m sorry I tried to be nice but you guys honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.

Scase · Post #58 » by **Scase** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:46 am

Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

I wasn't comparing their games, I was comparing the way people expected McDaniels to come in and be good. Same way people think that RJ is going to be a good addition to the team, and not like he's salary filler.

Rj is going to come in, shoot horrendously and be inefficient as he has every single year of his career, the dude AVERAGES a 51.8% TS%. People hated FVV, boy oh boy they are going to LOATHE him.

RJ is currently 167 out of 200 qualifying players for TS%.

Too many people commenting about his inclusion in the trade, and how he's going to be a "good running mate with Scottie" don't watch knicks/non raps games. And they are in for a rude awakening when they see him play.

Raptorfan2012 · Post #59 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:50 am

Scase wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

I wasn't comparing their games, I was comparing the way people expected McDaniels to come in and be good. Same way people think that RJ is going to be a good addition to the team, and not like he's salary filler.

Rj is going to come in, shoot horrendously and be inefficient as he has every single year of his career, the dude AVERAGES a 51.8% TS%. People hated FVV, boy oh boy they are going to LOATHE him.

RJ is currently 167 out of 200 qualifying players for TS%.

Too many people commenting about his inclusion in the trade, and how he's going to be a "good running mate with Scottie" don't watch knicks/non raps games. And they are in for a rude awakening when they see him play.

If you love TS% then man you must love Poetl. What a steal for us lol.

YogurtProducer · Post #60 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:51 am

Scase wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
Scase wrote:I see a lot of similarities with how people reacted after we got McDaniels, and I see a lot of people who will be disappointed again.

If you’re honestly comparing McDaniels to Barrett in any way shape or form I’m sorry man but I can’t trust your basketball evaluation skills. McDaniels was trash from the get go. Barrett was a top 3 pick for a reason. He has game. Has he reached his potential, no. But 10 times the player McDaniels is in his sleep. McDaniels is barely an nba player. Barrett actually has nba level skills.

I wasn't comparing their games, I was comparing the way people expected McDaniels to come in and be good. Same way people think that RJ is going to be a good addition to the team, and not like he's salary filler.

Rj is going to come in, shoot horrendously and be inefficient as he has every single year of his career, the dude AVERAGES a 51.8% TS%. People hated FVV, boy oh boy they are going to LOATHE him.

RJ is currently 167 out of 200 qualifying players for TS%.

Too many people commenting about his inclusion in the trade, and how he's going to be a "good running mate with Scottie" don't watch knicks/non raps games. And they are in for a rude awakening when they see him play.

RJ Barrett has started 296 games including on a playoff team last year. Acting like he is not going to come in and give us good minutes is just ridiculous.

No one is expecting him to be a superstar but sheesh, you act like he is a massive negative player. His contract might be an overpay, but he still will be at worst the 6th/7th best guy we got (Barnes - Siakam - Quickley - GTJ - Poeltl - Schroder - Barrett). We have been trotting out like 5 NBA caliber guys a game previously - RJ is an NBA rotational player.