Toronto Raptors SALARIES and CONTRACTS - Updated

[Tor_Raps]

Think there's a rule against signing them directly as I think you have to wait a full calendar year, but maybe via sign and trade it could be done?

Not suggesting it will be done, was just wondering on what the rules are.

Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.

I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.

Let's get the rumours started then "OG back to Toronto in the offseason" lol

[Parataxis]

The OG offseason play is an interesting one and something only the FO would know the chances on based on their discussions. We know the FO loves him and who knows how he'll like his fit in NY after a playoff run.

If we do actually keep cap space open post deadline (the FO has consistently pushed against this since losing out on Giannis), there should be some definite side eyes going on.

I can’t remember a player ever being traded and then immediately resigning with the team that traded him. He already has an agreement in place with the Knicks, otherwise they wouldn’t have made the trade.

Wouldn't that be tampering? Or is there a provision that a team is allowed to speak with a player with the other team's permission?

[bartron_44]

The biggest question they need to answer now is.. do they want to pay GTJ like 25M per season for the next 4 years. As you know that is what he is going to want.

As a 25 year old who shoots 40% from 3pt land, he actually makes a lot of sense as a guy to go with Scottie. However, if they dont want to pay him 20+ million for the next 4 years, they could actually trade him, Thad and Otto to a team looking to create 35 million in cap space next year. Toss in those picks and they might be able to get another solid player that is locked up

[Statistician MK]

do they want to pay GTJ like 25M per season for the next 4 years. As you know that is what he is going to want.

I believe he wants it, but he is not going to get it .

As a 25 year old who shoots 40% from 3pt land, he actually makes a lot of sense

I'd rather keep Brown for less money, than giving 25M to GTJ

[phanman]

The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?

Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.

Disagree 100%.

With the financial restrictions regarding the second apron, no competitive team is going to want to spend 20m on a center that can't shoot and who isn't elite. Honestly, I can't think of any team that would even want to trade for Yak.

- Chet is already playing C in OKC and they have a done of guys they need to pay soon
- Wemby is now playing C
etc.

[LarSiN]

Time to move on from Yak and Dennis as well. Go full rebuild. Give Porter 30mpg and see what he does, let Gradey play and keep our pick. Trade the expiring's for bad contracts/picks.

Yes i agree. Yak was brought in to compete as was schroeder, it is clear now that we are retooling. Yak at least is only 27, maybe he still fits the timeline.

He turns 29 in October

[2019nbachamps]

The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?

There were many suitors for Yak last time, they will be this time. His contract is cheap, and worth a lot. And there enough teams that need rim protection.

The issue is we wont get back the same value we gave up to get him. We're trending towards giving up a top 7 draft pick for Poeltl. We then took back late draft picks in the same draft for a far superior player (Siakam).

[Merit]

Think there's a rule against signing them directly as I think you have to wait a full calendar year, but maybe via sign and trade it could be done?

Not suggesting it will be done, was just wondering on what the rules are.

Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.

I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.

So you’re telling me it’s possible… haha.

Thanks for the info and for taking the time to dig it up.

[Merit]

Not sure what the rules on this are either. Consider me curious.

I believe it would be permitted but it is extremely unlikely.

From Larry Coon’s cbafaq:

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first6. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.

Let's get the runours started then "OG back to Toronto in the offseason" lol

I’d say pascal is more likely. Or can I vote for the return of Demar and Kyle?

[StopitLeo]

The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?

Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.

Disagree 100%.

With the financial restrictions regarding the second apron, no competitive team is going to want to spend 20m on a center that can't shoot and who isn't elite. Honestly, I can't think of any team that would even want to trade for Yak.

- Chet is already playing C in OKC and they have a done of guys they need to pay soon
- Wemby is now playing C
etc.

OKC could use Poeltl. You need a centre like him in the playoffs.

[SharoneWright]

Yak is a starting calibre C who is on a decent contract and he is only 28, he is definitely movable. Teams like Boston and OKC would want him.

Disagree 100%.

With the financial restrictions regarding the second apron, no competitive team is going to want to spend 20m on a center that can't shoot and who isn't elite. Honestly, I can't think of any team that would even want to trade for Yak.

- Chet is already playing C in OKC and they have a done of guys they need to pay soon
- Wemby is now playing C
etc.

OKC could use Poeltl. You need a centre like him in the playoffs.

Let the bidding war begin! Playoff Poeltl!

[mieshpal]

why trade yak? he's on a good contract and is good. we have no other centers on the roster and not having one hurts development, not help it.

People just want to tear down a team. I don't think the raps need to be torn down anymore to be honest. We just got to trade a few players like Trent, Boucher and maybe one more. That OG trade was huge as now we got those three plus Dick. Now the raps can look for other young players to build with.



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[bartron_44]

I actually like their lineup with Scottie at the 5. Boucher at the 4 and Brown on the wing with Barrett. Then they could have a top 10 of something like:

Barnes/Poeltl
Boucher/Porter
Barrett/Nwora
Brown/GTJ
Quickley/Schroder

With Dick in the G league with Nowell to get him more PT to develop for next year.

[Shakril]

I actually like their lineup with Scottie at the 5. Boucher at the 4 and Brown on the wing with Barrett. Then they could have a top 10 of something like:

Barnes/Poeltl
Boucher/Porter
Barrett/Nwora
Brown/GTJ
Quickley/Schroder

With Dick in the G league with Nowell to get him more PT to develop for next year.

It doesnt work. how much evidence people need to understand, you NEED to play a center at all times.

[Shakril]

The Yak thing is a real conundrum. As if the trade itself wasn’t bad enough,,, what team wants to acquire 3 more years of Yak at 20M per as their lead(?) centre? A team that wants to win? Or a team that wants to lose?

There were many suitors for Yak last time, they will be this time. His contract is cheap, and worth a lot. And there enough teams that need rim protection.

The issue is we wont get back the same value we gave up to get him. We're trending towards giving up a top 7 draft pick for Poeltl. We then took back late draft picks in the same draft for a far superior player (Siakam).

Only if you mess it up. Siakam was at the end of his contract, and the Pacers deal was the best they could get.
Poeltl has still 3 years left on his contract, that is a valuable trade assett. Masai would be stupid not to at least get back what he gave up initially. If available, Poeltl will have Suitors.

[2019nbachamps]

There were many suitors for Yak last time, they will be this time. His contract is cheap, and worth a lot. And there enough teams that need rim protection.

The issue is we wont get back the same value we gave up to get him. We're trending towards giving up a top 7 draft pick for Poeltl. We then took back late draft picks in the same draft for a far superior player (Siakam).

Only if you mess it up. Siakam was at the end of his contract, and the Pacers deal was the best they could get.
Poeltl has still 3 years left on his contract, that is a valuable trade assett. Masai would be stupid not to at least get back what he gave up initially. If available, Poeltl will have Suitors.

We wont get a top 7 lotto pick. Keep in mind Poeltl was available at the deadline last season and we were the highest bidder (i.e., we valued him more than the rest of the market). We now have a decent sample size to show Poeltl doesn't contribute to winning.

Anyways, we just gotta take the L here and move Poeltl to build up our war chest. This is going to be a 2-3 year project and it doesn't make sense to keep players not part of our timeline.

[ArthurVandelay]

The biggest question they need to answer now is.. do they want to pay GTJ like 25M per season for the next 4 years. As you know that is what he is going to want.

As a 25 year old who shoots 40% from 3pt land, he actually makes a lot of sense as a guy to go with Scottie. However, if they dont want to pay him 20+ million for the next 4 years, they could actually trade him, Thad and Otto to a team looking to create 35 million in cap space next year. Toss in those picks and they might be able to get another solid player that is locked up

Trent is going to be lucky to get MLE money and I hope it isn’t from Toronto

Time to move on. I like Trent but he’s too one dimensional and lacks bball iq

[Johnny Bball]

40 mil in cap space. 4 roster players and 3 firsts. Well done Masai.

Not much of a FA landscape. Other than Claxton, there is no one I think would come here without asking for a big contract.

I think Masai got 3 picks because he's looking to move expirings and picks for another starter level player. We still have a huge gap in the starting lineup and Brown isn't going to be a core piece

Grayson Allen would be just fine for me assuming Trent and Brown are traded (Suns have no chance of keeping Allen right now). Probably could fit Claxton and Allen into the 60 million cap space. Add two picks for GTJ and BB, trade Poeltl for a first and whoever, they end up with 6 additional picks, a new starting line-up and 30 million under the tax.

[bluerap23]

[Johnny Bball]

I actually like their lineup with Scottie at the 5. Boucher at the 4 and Brown on the wing with Barrett. Then they could have a top 10 of something like:

Barnes/Poeltl
Boucher/Porter
Barrett/Nwora
Brown/GTJ
Quickley/Schroder

With Dick in the G league with Nowell to get him more PT to develop for next year.

It doesnt work. how much evidence people need to understand, you NEED to play a center at all times.

Not sure how anyone can come to this conclusion still, and I refer to the all times part, especially not at end of games. But yes, the above doesn't work full time for Barnes.