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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#41 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:17 am

MoneyBall wrote:The top 4 players in the world are all international. This is a sick lineup:

PG - SGA
SG - ???
SF- Doncic
PF - Giannis
C - Jokic

Edit: maybe have Wemby play PF? Either way, international team has a better top 5. USA has more depth, though.

How many international players were in the 2025 ASG? Not half the players I don't think? So how will they choose the teams, from two lists I guess. Still fan voting? I suppose non Americans will be selected who wouldn't make the ASG under the current system, and some Americans will miss out who would've made it under the East West format
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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#42 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:21 am

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YogurtProducer wrote:Absolutely ditching the all star game, and instead doing a "4 Nations" type thing would be the absolute best case scenario for the NBA.

You already do pre-season games with Euroleague teams and Aussies - I wonder if you could convince them to all hold breaks at the same time and have like countries participate in a quick international tournament (every 2 years or something) in America with NBA Rules and what not. Would be intriguing to see how differently it would play out than a FIBA tournament.


You could maybe draw up something continental in a 4 Nations style. Maybe pairing Australia with Asia. And then Europe, Africa and The Americas?


There isn't nearly enough talent outside the US to do that. Even countries that are good at basketball, like France, Serbia, Lithuania, etc. wouldn't have more than 1-2 players. We can't even do it by continent. Only Europe would have enough players for a team.

It has to be USA vs. World for now.

Hockey is popular in more countries than basketball, and the genetic requirements for becoming an elite hockey player are not nearly as strict so it's easier for small countries to produce lots of elite talent.


Agree with most of your take, but not the bolded. Basketball is the second most played sport worldwide after soccer. Hockey is limited to northern nations with ice and snow winters.
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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#43 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:30 am

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SFour wrote:I like USA vs World, I think the players will take it more seriously because pride is on the line.....world will definitely be taking it more seriously

I think World is the one you gotta worry about.

USA wont wanna lose as they're repping their country. I don' think SGA, Giannis, and Jokic teaming up is gonna take it anymore seriously than they did before.

The only way to get effort in an ASG is a ridiculous prize (like, $10M to each winning player), or repping your own country

Have Trump threaten to deport the world players if they don't make a good showing. That should motivate them.
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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#44 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:39 am

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:
You could maybe draw up something continental in a 4 Nations style. Maybe pairing Australia with Asia. And then Europe, Africa and The Americas?


There isn't nearly enough talent outside the US to do that. Even countries that are good at basketball, like France, Serbia, Lithuania, etc. wouldn't have more than 1-2 players. We can't even do it by continent. Only Europe would have enough players for a team.

It has to be USA vs. World for now.

Hockey is popular in more countries than basketball, and the genetic requirements for becoming an elite hockey player are not nearly as strict so it's easier for small countries to produce lots of elite talent.


Agree with most of your take, but not the bolded. Basketball is the second most played sport worldwide after soccer. Hockey is limited to northern nations with ice and snow winters.


Hockey has multiple elite countries. Canada, the US, Russia, Sweden, Finland, and the Czech Republic have all won or contended at major tournaments. Then there are a bunch of countries like Germany, Denmark, Slovakia, etc. that also put together decent teams from time to time.

Basketball is really just dominated by the US. Occasionally we'll get a "golden generation" from another country (like Spain that one time) and the US sometimes decides to not send their best to a tournament, but for the most part, the talent disparity between the US and the next best country is massive. Canada in hockey routinely loses to the US, Russia, Sweden, Finland, and Czechia. It makes international competitions a lot more interesting.

In terms of raw numbers, basketball certainly pulls in more viewers globally. But I think more countries take hockey seriously than basketball. And like I said, it's also much easier to produce elite hockey talent. You don't need 6'5"-7" athletic freaks. Most hockey players have average physical builds.
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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#45 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:22 am

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There isn't nearly enough talent outside the US to do that. Even countries that are good at basketball, like France, Serbia, Lithuania, etc. wouldn't have more than 1-2 players. We can't even do it by continent. Only Europe would have enough players for a team.

It has to be USA vs. World for now.

Hockey is popular in more countries than basketball, and the genetic requirements for becoming an elite hockey player are not nearly as strict so it's easier for small countries to produce lots of elite talent.


Agree with most of your take, but not the bolded. Basketball is the second most played sport worldwide after soccer. Hockey is limited to northern nations with ice and snow winters.


Hockey has multiple elite countries. Canada, the US, Russia, Sweden, Finland, and the Czech Republic have all won or contended at major tournaments. Then there are a bunch of countries like Germany, Denmark, Slovakia, etc. that also put together decent teams from time to time.

Basketball is really just dominated by the US. Occasionally we'll get a "golden generation" from another country (like Spain that one time) and the US sometimes decides to not send their best to a tournament, but for the most part, the talent disparity between the US and the next best country is massive. Canada in hockey routinely loses to the US, Russia, Sweden, Finland, and Czechia. It makes international competitions a lot more interesting.

In terms of raw numbers, basketball certainly pulls in more viewers globally. But I think more countries take hockey seriously than basketball. And like I said, it's also much easier to produce elite hockey talent. You don't need 6'5"-7" athletic freaks. Most hockey players have average physical builds.

Canada is not as dominant in hockey as the US is in basketball, no doubt. Although that may change now that Lebron, Curry Durant generation is done. But I'd argue that a FIBA world tournament has more quality teams in it than a world hockey equivalent if there was one. And there are more countries represented in the NBA than the NHL, I think, without checking.

I see your point, only a few players per European country make the NBA. But those national teams are strong when their NBA players join the rest. And there's a reason they had a 4 Nations tournament, no other nation remotely would have belonged there. Czechia has declined just like Argentina in basketball.
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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#46 » by PoundTown » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:01 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
Coco Costanza wrote:
Prestige wrote:They’re just grasping at straws. This isn’t a sustainable model unless you can always ensure you have a good roster of international all stars and that they aren’t injured.


Does it have to be sustainable? I think a better approach might be to come up with a new idea every year. I know that's basically what they've been doing, but I don't think there's any reason to assume USA vs World is going to be a regular thing.

Absolutely ditching the all star game, and instead doing a "4 Nations" type thing would be the absolute best case scenario for the NBA.

You already do pre-season games with Euroleague teams and Aussies - I wonder if you could convince them to all hold breaks at the same time and have like countries participate in a quick international tournament (every 2 years or something) in America with NBA Rules and what not. Would be intriguing to see how differently it would play out than a FIBA tournament.



Imagine Canada being part of a commonwealth team with Australia, NZ and UK. That'd be super cool... Then have a Euro team, a US team and a world team for the rest of the folks I guess.

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Re: OT: 2026 NBA All-Star Game to be USA vs World 

Post#47 » by littlerock2277 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:06 pm

Total waste of time, reserve the all star team for players who have deserved to make it by their play during season regardless of what country they represent. Find another method to make the all star more valuable. They have to factor in injuries, and how well their teams are preforming. This won’t be a good idea, I bet if were to happen the coverage leading up to the game would have the media talking about a bunch of players snubbed because of the changed format.
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