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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#41 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:43 am

Would have liked to see more fight from him but they ALL looked rattled in the 2H. I said at halftime that the reality of the situation would likely sink in and I think that is exactly what happened. Toppin and Sheppard were awful out there (still not sure what the Pacers see in the latter). I forgot Turner was even playing for most of that game. McConnell was trying to do too much and looked like Westbrook out there.

Siakam had an incredible playoffs. 21/6/4 while shooting 43% from 3.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#42 » by Mattatron » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:50 am

Some folks compared Siakam to Kevin Garnett couple weeks ago lmaooo
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#43 » by Boogie! » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:55 am

Indiana was a huge underdog this series and it’s amazing they even took it to 7. Pascal isn’t even a feature in the offense, they run heavily through their guards. Did they iso him every possession like he was kawhi? If not I’m not sure why everyone is hating.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#44 » by Boogie! » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:59 am

Tripod wrote:
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Tripod wrote:My God do you have to turn everything into either:

Scotty cult or FVV love?

The irony is you are the biggest troll and can't see it.


The double standard is astonishing. Pascal can lead his team to game 7 of the finals and THIS constitutes a disappointing result worthy of criticism?

A whole faction of this board was dead wrong for 3 seasons....and they can't help themselves from this pathetic attempt to salvage their ridiculous takes that were dead-wrong for 3 years.

I guarantee you that there is not another team board on realgm criticizing pascal's performance in game 7 with a dedicated thread. Only this team board. Why is that?

Because a whole bunch of delusional Scott Barnes boosters have egg on their face and they know it. So they cling to whatever little victory they can salvage.

Imagine criticizing Scott Barnes for his performance in game 7 of the finals after he led his team to get there. If someone does that....you can call them a troll.

In order for your counter-claim to have validity.....we would have to see scotty make an all star game while critics are complaining about him stat-padding. Or watch Scott make an all nba team while critics say "he was being selfish".

So far all we've seen is Scott Barnes be a bad basketball player who doesn't even put up good numbers on a bad team. Noone has even had the chance to troll him yet.

Again...why do you have to make any of this about Barnes? That's YOUR obsession with Barnes due to your LOVE of FVV.

Believe it or not, people are allowed to criticize Siakam without it having anything to do with Barnes. Christ all I said about Siakam was that he only had 7 FGA in the last 3 Quarters and he needed more shots. Not to rag on him, but to say he needed to be MORE of a focus on offense with Hali out.

So again, take your hate of Barnes and love of Fred and keep it out of so many threads needlessly where it doesn't belong. You spam so many threads with this Barnes cult BS it's exhausting.

Siakam is allowed to be criticized for only have 3 points in the 2nd half of the most important game of the year....for that reason and no other. Indy SHOULD have made him more a focal point of the offense and he SHOULD have demanded it. Instead a bench player and a guy on his rookie contract took the 1st and 2nd most shots...Siakam was 3rd.

Hell look at last 3 Q:
Siakam 2-7
Mathurin 5-10
TJ 8-11
Nembhard 3-8

That's not what you should expect from your #2 option in Siakam once your #1 goes down. Now a whole, once you zoom out, Siakam had a great playoffs overall.


The shot distribution is more a result of the pacers offensive system though. After watching the pacers all playoffs I was actually surprised at how little they went to siakam even during times when they needed a bucket. They really run everything through their guards and focus on a more egalitarian system.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#45 » by Tripod » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:32 pm

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Tripod wrote:
mdenny wrote:
The double standard is astonishing. Pascal can lead his team to game 7 of the finals and THIS constitutes a disappointing result worthy of criticism?

A whole faction of this board was dead wrong for 3 seasons....and they can't help themselves from this pathetic attempt to salvage their ridiculous takes that were dead-wrong for 3 years.

I guarantee you that there is not another team board on realgm criticizing pascal's performance in game 7 with a dedicated thread. Only this team board. Why is that?

Because a whole bunch of delusional Scott Barnes boosters have egg on their face and they know it. So they cling to whatever little victory they can salvage.

Imagine criticizing Scott Barnes for his performance in game 7 of the finals after he led his team to get there. If someone does that....you can call them a troll.

In order for your counter-claim to have validity.....we would have to see scotty make an all star game while critics are complaining about him stat-padding. Or watch Scott make an all nba team while critics say "he was being selfish".

So far all we've seen is Scott Barnes be a bad basketball player who doesn't even put up good numbers on a bad team. Noone has even had the chance to troll him yet.

Again...why do you have to make any of this about Barnes? That's YOUR obsession with Barnes due to your LOVE of FVV.

Believe it or not, people are allowed to criticize Siakam without it having anything to do with Barnes. Christ all I said about Siakam was that he only had 7 FGA in the last 3 Quarters and he needed more shots. Not to rag on him, but to say he needed to be MORE of a focus on offense with Hali out.

So again, take your hate of Barnes and love of Fred and keep it out of so many threads needlessly where it doesn't belong. You spam so many threads with this Barnes cult BS it's exhausting.

Siakam is allowed to be criticized for only have 3 points in the 2nd half of the most important game of the year....for that reason and no other. Indy SHOULD have made him more a focal point of the offense and he SHOULD have demanded it. Instead a bench player and a guy on his rookie contract took the 1st and 2nd most shots...Siakam was 3rd.

Hell look at last 3 Q:
Siakam 2-7
Mathurin 5-10
TJ 8-11
Nembhard 3-8

That's not what you should expect from your #2 option in Siakam once your #1 goes down. Now a whole, once you zoom out, Siakam had a great playoffs overall.


The shot distribution is more a result of the pacers offensive system though. After watching the pacers all playoffs I was actually surprised at how little they went to siakam even during times when they needed a bucket. They really run everything through their guards and focus on a more egalitarian system.

Agreed.

Siakam in the low post is a hard person to stop and they needed to alter their game a bit once Hali got hurt. But they didn't.

Siakam was their leading FGA guy all year and playoffs but the last 3Q's he was 4th. That just can't happen.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#46 » by bluerap23 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:52 pm

was easily their best and most consistent player all playoffs.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#47 » by Airmiess » Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:55 pm

He needs the ball in certain areas, only Hali could really do it in a half court setting... Nemby was struggling to get it to him. TJ is not the greatest playmaker.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#48 » by Brinbe » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:26 pm

pascal got the ball a few times but okc were actively working hard to deny him the ball and were throwing really hard doubles and bodies at him whenever he caught it. when pascal is the lead guy he needs time and space to make things happen. we watched him as the top guy for years and we saw this in real-time. and it's a lot different compared to being the secondary option where you don't have that pressure to have to create and can be a play finisher.

like, it's almost as if this historically great defensive team had a gameplan to key in on him after hali went out lol. i don't know if people understand what they watch.

and tj's the last one anyone should be complaining about, he was the only reason they pushed it close in the 3rd before the wheels fell off.

you can see why hali's so important in terms of creating great looks for all these guys while taking care of the ball. he's one of the best playmakers in the entire league and they sorely missed him in the 2nd half. there was no control to the chaos.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#49 » by Duffman100 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:57 pm

Brinbe wrote:pascal got the ball a few times but okc were actively working hard to deny him the ball and were throwing really hard doubles and bodies at him whenever he caught it. when pascal is the lead guy he needs time and space to make things happen. we watched him as the top guy for years and we saw this in real-time. and it's a lot different compared to being the secondary option where you don't have that pressure to have to create and can be a play finisher.

like, it's almost as if this historically great defensive team had a gameplan to key in on him after hali went out lol. i don't know if people understand what they watch.

and tj's the last one anyone should be complaining about, he was the only reason they pushed it close in the 3rd before the wheels fell off.

you can see why hali's so important in terms of creating great looks for all these guys while taking care of the ball. he's one of the best playmakers in the entire league and they sorely missed him in the 2nd half. there was no control to the chaos.


TJ kept them in the game, TJ took them out of the game (7 turnovers).
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#50 » by TheGeneral99 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:58 pm

Great season for Pascal.

He has cemented himself as the ideal #2 on a championship level team.

Will likely be a HOF.
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Post#51 » by dTox » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:59 pm

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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#52 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:08 pm

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The POBO telling you he won't max you, but then keeping you around, was probably not comforting. Despite all that, he still wanted to stay. I wanted him traded and am fine with the return but it can't be said enough how much of a class act this dude is for taking the high road.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#53 » by Duffman100 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:17 pm

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The POBO telling you he won't max you, but then keeping you around, was probably not comforting. Despite all that, he still wanted to stay. I wanted him traded and am fine with the return but it can't be said enough how much of a class act this dude is for taking the high road.


I also wondered how much he loves being the #1 option and constantly fed the ball in ISO.

Pascal seems to be a guy that likes the ball movement, transition basketball etc.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#54 » by Cyrus » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:26 pm

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Brinbe wrote:pascal got the ball a few times but okc were actively working hard to deny him the ball and were throwing really hard doubles and bodies at him whenever he caught it. when pascal is the lead guy he needs time and space to make things happen. we watched him as the top guy for years and we saw this in real-time. and it's a lot different compared to being the secondary option where you don't have that pressure to have to create and can be a play finisher.

like, it's almost as if this historically great defensive team had a gameplan to key in on him after hali went out lol. i don't know if people understand what they watch.

and tj's the last one anyone should be complaining about, he was the only reason they pushed it close in the 3rd before the wheels fell off.

you can see why hali's so important in terms of creating great looks for all these guys while taking care of the ball. he's one of the best playmakers in the entire league and they sorely missed him in the 2nd half. there was no control to the chaos.


TJ kept them in the game, TJ took them out of the game (7 turnovers).


That was OKC gameplan after Hali got hurt, turn TJ into a scorer. It takes everyone else out of the flow, and hell TJ himself doesn't want to be scorer, and it was effective, sure he got his buckets, but everyone else was smothered / iced out.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#55 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:35 pm

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Brinbe wrote:pascal got the ball a few times but okc were actively working hard to deny him the ball and were throwing really hard doubles and bodies at him whenever he caught it. when pascal is the lead guy he needs time and space to make things happen. we watched him as the top guy for years and we saw this in real-time. and it's a lot different compared to being the secondary option where you don't have that pressure to have to create and can be a play finisher.

like, it's almost as if this historically great defensive team had a gameplan to key in on him after hali went out lol. i don't know if people understand what they watch.

and tj's the last one anyone should be complaining about, he was the only reason they pushed it close in the 3rd before the wheels fell off.

you can see why hali's so important in terms of creating great looks for all these guys while taking care of the ball. he's one of the best playmakers in the entire league and they sorely missed him in the 2nd half. there was no control to the chaos.


TJ kept them in the game, TJ took them out of the game (7 turnovers).


That was OKC gameplan after Hali got hurt, turn TJ into a scorer. It takes everyone else out of the flow, and hell TJ himself doesn't want to be scorer, and it was effective, sure he got his buckets, but everyone else was smothered.


Correct. OKC had no problem with TJ going nuts because nobody else was getting going. He scored 10 straight points to bring them to within 4 and OKC never called timeout once. He also turned it over 3 times during that stretch and the Thunder scored each time as a result. Thunder were fine with him trying to do it all.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#56 » by Duffman100 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:39 pm

Toppin was also just god awful

0-4 and 3 turnovers in 20 minutes.
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Post#57 » by Rapsalot » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:44 pm

Pascal is great 3rd option on Chip team. Being #1 is a no. Remember without Hali great shot some luck game 1 this was a gentleman’s sweep.

For all the PS over fans yes he scored more than KLow in 2019 finals but getting there and who other teams feared and game planned for KLow had second most impact and ( Marc, Serge and Fred ) all had needed significant impact throughout the run.
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Post#58 » by James_Raptors » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:45 pm

I don't see what the issue is.
Pacers had a great season and were on the cusp of winning it all.
Hali goes down and at that point, rightfully so, most expected the Thunder to go and win the game.
...and that's what happened.

So all this "other stuff", attempting to demean Pascal or just troll is nonsensical.
Siakam isn't a #1, and if he had won the finals MVP he would've been one of the lowest producing players in recent years to have done so.
So why are you (anyone) expecting him to suddenly turn into superman in the 2nd half and become a player ... he isn't?

Stuff happens. Injuries suck.
Congratulations to both teams and hopefully Hali can come back and have a great rest of his career (but not against us!) :)
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Post#59 » by Rapsalot » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:54 pm

Last add is if PS signed the 4 year $189mil contract with us he likely is here but 5 years $245 floor to $305mil hell no and MU + ownership agree. That is no disrespect even Dallas did not want to pay this to Luka. These near max contracts will be more scrutinized in the future!
Pacers now have to be very careful for Turner as he did not show up well in playoffs but wants big raise!
Both him and Jak should be 3-4 years $23 mil which is 18% raise but they want 33% which is not good or real for team building.
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Re: Game 7 NBA Finals - Pascal scores 3pts in the second half 

Post#60 » by tsherkin » Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:54 pm

James_Raptors wrote:I don't see what the issue is.
Pacers had a great season and were on the cusp of winning it all.
Hali goes down and at that point, rightfully so, most expected the Thunder to go and win the game.
...and that's what happened.

So all this "other stuff", attempting to demean Pascal or just troll is nonsensical.
Siakam isn't a #1, and if he had won the finals MVP he would've been one of the lowest producing players in recent years to have done so.
So why are you (anyone) expecting him to suddenly turn into superman in the 2nd half and become a player ... he isn't?

Stuff happens. Injuries suck.
Congratulations to both teams and hopefully Hali can come back and have a great rest of his career (but not against us!) :)


Yep. All of this.

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