Fischer/Stein: Raps trying to see what RJ/IQ/Poeltl gets // Still trying for Anthony Davis

[ArthurVandelay]

Getting off Poeltl is going to be critical. If it can be done, it should be done sooner than later before the extension kicks in (one more year at $19.5m).

It’s not going to age well.

[Pointgod]

Fischer: Trying to see if one of his daily made-up rumours comes true.

Funny how a guy who has been right so often still gets people to say this sort of stuff.

He reports on every discussion he hears... that doesnt mean every discussion turns into an actual trade. He is a level lower than Shams/Woj who typically only reported on concrete moves or moves on the verge of happening.

Yep.

People were in denial when he said Raptors were going with Scottie with the 4th pick. People were in denial when he said OG and his team wanted to be in a bigger market.

It’s also weird cope because you expect your GM to explore trades and gauge market value. Too many posters are homers when a guy is on their team and then when he’s traded he becomes overrated or overpaid as we’ve seen numerous examples.

[Tor_Raps]

Funny how a guy who has been right so often still gets people to say this sort of stuff.

He reports on every discussion he hears... that doesnt mean every discussion turns into an actual trade. He is a level lower than Shams/Woj who typically only reported on concrete moves or moves on the verge of happening.

Yep.

People were in denial when he said Raptors were going with Scottie with the 4th pick. People were in denial when he said OG and his team wanted to be in a bigger market.

It’s also weird cope because you expect your GM to explore trades and gauge market value. Too many posters are homers when a guy is on their team and then when he’s traded he becomes overrated or overpaid as we’ve seen numerous examples.

Ya most people dont watch or follow the NBA close enough to have an informed opinion on matters lol

[ItsDanger]

I'd be very surprised that another GM wants that Poeltl contract. Let's be honest here. 2.5 years ago was making $10M. Now, very soon, he'll be making close to $30M with a cooked back. WTF

[sh00n]

A backcourt of Scottie with Saobonis appears in my nightmares

Don't you f-cking dare, Bobby

I mean, ideally you'd want them in the frontcourt.

[Duffman100]

A backcourt of Scottie with Saobonis appears in my nightmares

Don't you f-cking dare, Bobby

I mean, ideally you'd want them in the frontcourt.

To be fair, a backcourt of Sabonis and Scottie would be a nightmare.

[Pointgod]

I wonder how much sweetener you have to put into a trade of Barrett, Quickley and Poeltl.

Barrett is owed 27 mil and 29 mil next year
Quickley is owed 130 mil this year and the next 3 years combined
Poeltl is owed about 105 mil this year and the next 3 years (assumed the 5 million guaranteed the last year)

What team is going to bring in 3 solid starters (one with a back) for roughly 80 million this year and next when you could potentially find cheaper alternatives.

[Indeed]

Fischer: Trying to see if one of his daily made-up rumours comes true.

Funny how a guy who has been right so often still gets people to say this sort of stuff.

He reports on every discussion he hears... that doesnt mean every discussion turns into an actual trade. He is a level lower than Shams/Woj who typically only reported on concrete moves or moves on the verge of happening.

Simply say Shams and Woj might have multiple sources to verify, while some with limited source and cannot filter and process further. After all, I am not interested in those that are not serious, so I dont put too much into his reports.

[TorontoBarneys]

Why RJ? I don't understand that one.

They must have little confidence in Poeltl getting back to 100% if he's actively on the trade market. If we see this then other FOs certainly see this and wonder what value he really has left, especially with that extension?

IQ I understand, he's not really the guy for us at 1 but replacing him with a clear upgrade isn't that simple.

I don't mind giving away picks because we are too good to tank but it has to make sense. I don't want to see Colangelo type stuff on the horizon.

[Brinbe]

shows how desperate they are to get off that yak/iq money and how much they value non-lotto 1st round picks

getting a potential star-level piece at a low-cost is exactly what they did with the BI trade too. it's a risk but nothing wrong with taking that on.

scottie/cmb/shead/martin represent more of the current/future culture of the team anyway so there's nothing wrong with being aggressive with these other guys if you can get an upgrade.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Tor_Raps]

Fischer: Trying to see if one of his daily made-up rumours comes true.

Funny how a guy who has been right so often still gets people to say this sort of stuff.

He reports on every discussion he hears... that doesnt mean every discussion turns into an actual trade. He is a level lower than Shams/Woj who typically only reported on concrete moves or moves on the verge of happening.

Simply say Shams and Woj might have multiple sources to verify, while some with limited source and cannot filter and process further. After all, I am not interested in those that are not serious, so I dont put too much into his reports.

Thats you but the majority are interested in any level of NBA gossip, which is why he has a massive following now. You just need to be smart enough to understand the difference between discussions and something on the verge of being done.

[Indeed]

I think I’d rather trade for JJJ than Ja.

As would I but I'm not sure how available he is.

Either way, I'd do a deal for Lamelo or stand pat. I don't like Ja's archetype (small guard that can't shoot and relies on athleticism) and Lamelo solves a ton of issues for us.

Just curious how Lamelo solves a ton of issues for us? He's awful defensively, he's played 58% of his teams games since he was drafted, He's a better playmaker than Quick but he also turns the ball over more than double what IQ does 3.8 to 1.8 (That's two lost possessions a game) so some of that value is negated, I don't see how he could better improve team chemistry over Quick. I'm all for upgrading from Quick but Ball ain't it. Am I missing something?

Duck the tax.
The whole idea is to avoid the tax, no ones said it has to make the team better, but financially.

However, teams are looking for decent contracts, instead of our overpaid contracts. Would not be surprised that we give up future assets and blame someone on the current situation.

[Indeed]

shows how desperate they are to get off that yak/iq money and how much they value non-lotto 1st round picks

getting a potential star-level piece at a low-cost is exactly what they did with the BI trade too. it's a risk but nothing wrong with taking that on.

Our current GM said that the Ingram trade was not his and a bad one. I seriously doubt we will be anything better, particularly, we would be a tanking team without Ingram.

[KRANG]

I want to keep RJ

No one is touching that Jakob contract. No one.

[Brinbe]

shows how desperate they are to get off that yak/iq money and how much they value non-lotto 1st round picks

getting a potential star-level piece at a low-cost is exactly what they did with the BI trade too. it's a risk but nothing wrong with taking that on.

Our current GM said that the Ingram trade was not his and a bad one. I seriously doubt we will be anything better, particularly, we would be a tanking team without Ingram.

where did he say it was bad? From what I read he said it was an incremental move, which it was. much like this move would be. we're probably like two moves away from doing anything but we're headed down that path.

you go get ja or ad and then you do something more next year.

the whole point is that they're not locked down on this core and they shouldn't be outside of scottie/cmb and they're not moving those guys. so what's the problem here?

just being negative to be negative because miserable toronto sports fans only feel comfort when they live in that?

[Duffman100]

Really! Still AD? Why??

[Zeno]

Really! Still AD? Why??

I think a lot of it is based on length of contract and my assumption(hope) that any extension involves him opting out and extending at a lower number over more years.

[Basketball_Jones]

God we’re gonna attach a pick too ffs. Wouldn’t mind getting off the Poeltl contract but it’s not worth throwing away our picks to dig ourselves out

[Indeed]

shows how desperate they are to get off that yak/iq money and how much they value non-lotto 1st round picks

getting a potential star-level piece at a low-cost is exactly what they did with the BI trade too. it's a risk but nothing wrong with taking that on.

Our current GM said that the Ingram trade was not his and a bad one. I seriously doubt we will be anything better, particularly, we would be a tanking team without Ingram.

where did he say it was bad? From what I read he said it was an incremental move, which it was. much like this move would be. we're probably like two moves away from doing anything but we're headed down that path.

you go get ja or ad and then you do something more next year.

the whole point is that they're not locked down on this core and they shouldn't be outside of scottie/cmb and they're not moving those guys. so what's the problem here?

just being negative to be negative because miserable toronto sports fans only feel comfort when they live in that?

https://raptorsrapture.com/raptors-brandon-ingram-experiment-might-not-last-long-masai-ujiri-bobby-webster

People in the room disagree.
I dont know if I am miserable or I understand the reason they extended Webster, more like Ed Rogers was not happy with the move and want an opposite opinion, and that would make sense to me from all these transition.