Official Bargnani Discussion Thread

[Joker]

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Let us stick our heads in the sand re this team's rebounbing issues and focus on the youngest problem in that regard.

If rebounding isn't an issue at the 5 spot, then about 90% of our team's rebounding issues go away.

[emfive]

I feel that the coaching staff needs to take some of the heat for all this.

[Jimmy King]

This board is like a spoiled brat who wanted the ps3 for christmas but got the 360.

[Joker]

This board is like a spoiled brat who wanted the ps3 for christmas but got the 360.

We didn't get a 360, we got a broken atari.

[Tommy Gun]

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Let us stick our heads in the sand re this team's rebounbing issues and focus on the youngest problem in that regard.

uh..bargs is the BIGGEST problem in that regard.

If we had a five that could rebound well and get some extra posessions on the offensive galss this team would be a top 10 rebounding team in the league with Bosh + Moon

[rapstarr]

bargs need a big man coach

[Spragga]

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We didn't get a 360, we got a broken atari.

No we got Nintendo with Blades of Steel as the only game. Yall just looking to fight.

[The Letter V]

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We didn't get a 360, we got a broken atari.

Well at least we don't have to worry about the red ring of death....

[Komodo]

-1 it's his overall game that needs work and rebounding is just a tipping point because how tall he is so it should take less effort to get the ball.

He needs better foot work, positioning, boxing out, rotating on help defense, the ability to cover on the switch against the mismatch. Better shot selection because he's disrupting the offense when he doesn't have the shot, he makes a move and makes it more difficult, when he should make the extra pass. I have no problem if he is squared and makes the attempt and misses when its an open look. These are fundamental abilities to learn how to play the game of basketball, its not all about just jacking up shots. If thats your ability this makes you a role player. I believe most are just frustrated because you should already have this ability if going to be considered a lottery pick, he's clearly a project, and its more likely that the mistake is not his, it's BC for not getting the deal to get a lower pick if he was the guy you wanted.

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[AfricanSensation]

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The issue us not his record shooting 3's, but the fixation with his deficiencies, where certain agenda-driven posters harp and harp and harp, day in, day out.

Agenda driving posters? Let see...

Gay average 19-5
Dagger Response: Yeah but how many games are they winning?
(Total disregard for the fact that Bosh didn't win nothing for 3 years)

Aldridge average 19-9 leading a 22-13 Blazers team.
Dagger Response: Yeah They won even the 3 games he was injured
(Total disregard for the fact that the Hornets were 6-0 without Chris Paul when he went out last year)

Bargs average 9-3 on the season shooting 20% in december and about to become the worst defensive 7footer ever.
Dagger Response: His talent his obvious, give him time, stop focusing on his negatives, look he can shoot 3s

Clearly Dagger does not have any agenda unlike other people here, he is just an objective observer....

[C Court]

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No you're right, it's just better to bash him...I'm sure something good will come out of it....


We know he's an attrocious rebounder- even his biggest suporters will admit it. I don't understand what a thread like this hopes to accomplish.

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The criticism has gone beyond the point of being rational or beneficial.

If a poster starts a new thread on a topic that has already been discussed, the mods lock it because there is nothing to be gained by beating a dead horse. There have been dozens and dozens of threads on this and I don't see why we need another.

I suggest that mods follow the steps they took last year with the Sam Mitchell bashers.

There should be a stickied thread called " Bargnani is a Poor Rebounder" and let the critics wail away all they want without cluttering the board with new threads.

[shots n stops]

do you all realize that superscrub hasn't even responded to this thread, i bet he just loves posting this garbage and watch y'all just make fools of yourselves arguing about it.

yes he might be amongst the worst rebounders or whatever all time but umm it's still only his second year so it might be just a tad irresponsible to do such a comparison.

it's still great entertainment though, keep it up!

[Joker]

I wonder what the backlash will be for Colangelo. That draft will probably end up being the biggest moment of his tenure here and it's probable that he completely gaffed.

[Komodo]

I'd have to agree. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet, and currently, the other parts of Bargs game are not rounding in to shape. He's showing little progress in key areas and some people just shrug it off.

There's still plenty of time for Bargnani to prove his going first overall, but so far it's not looking likely.

[emfive]

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If rebounding isn't an issue at the 5 spot, then about 90% of our team's rebounding issues go away.

I am not going to argue that there is no truth in that. I still feel that some of the blame goes to the way the team plays. And that blame goes to the coaching staff.

I am just as frustrated as everyone else by Bargs play in all regards. I see someone out there who is very unsure of himself. I am not sure who should carry most of the blame, yet it is the job of the coaching staff amd management to develop players. I am sure of one thing though. It is a long way back from this lack of confidence he is currently displaying and I am hoping (actually I am certain) that Raps management sees the problem and is dealing with it.

I also feel that he is getting dumped on in these forums. I know that is the nature of these message boards. So I am here to contradict. Maybe he reads the boards and some signs of support won't hurt, at any rate.

[Tommy Gun]

I wonder what the backlash will be for Colangelo. That draft will probably end up being the biggest moment of his tenure here and it's probable that he completely gaffed.

If he can make moves to mitigate the bust, like Dumars did with the Pistons, then no one will care. How often do Pistons fans bash DUmars for drafting Darko?

[Komodo]

I wonder what the backlash will be for Colangelo. That draft will probably end up being the biggest moment of his tenure here and it's probable that he completely gaffed.

Agreed. BC has much to lose if such is the case.

[emfive]

do you all realize that superscrub hasn't even responded to this thread, i bet he just loves posting this garbage and watch y'all just make fools of yourselves arguing about it.

yes he might be amongst the worst rebounders or whatever all time but umm it's still only his second year so it might be just a tad irresponsible to do such a comparison.

it's still great entertainment though, keep it up!

Queue up the fire BC threads.

[Joker]

For all of you people saying to be patient with Bargnani and give him time, isn't that predicated on Bargnani actually showing, you know, progress? His rebounding at game 90-something of his career is arguably the same as it was in his first 10 games.

[rapstarr]

I'd have to agree. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet, and currently, the other parts of Bargs game are not rounding in to shape. He's showing little progress in key areas and some people just shrug it off.

There's still plenty of time for Bargnani to prove his going first overall, but so far it's not looking likely.

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