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Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#401 » by ciueli » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:37 pm

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lolwut wrote:Unfortunately, Rogers is the only decent internet option for my neighborhood. Bell doesn't have fast enough service, and independent ISPs are not price competitive.


I'm surprised you can't get TekSavvy. In my area I can get either resold Bell or Rogers service through them. Cable prices are a little cheaper/better than what Rogers offers, depending on tier:

Rogers Unlimited 50 = $90/month
Teksavvy Cable 75 = $72/month ($52/month for the first 6 months)

Rogers Unlimited 150 = $105/month
Rogers Unlimited 500 = $115/month
Teksavvy Cable 500 = $108/month ($89/month for the first 6 months)

Rogers Gigabit = $125/month
Teksavvy Cable 1024 = $118/month ($98/month for the first 6 months)

I can get Teksavvy, but Rogers has them beat on price. I'm getting 500Mbps for $60.


I can only assume you have a bundle price or it is some special temporary deal then because that's really cheap.
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Post#402 » by positivetension » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:49 pm

ciueli wrote:
lolwut wrote:
ciueli wrote:
I'm surprised you can't get TekSavvy. In my area I can get either resold Bell or Rogers service through them. Cable prices are a little cheaper/better than what Rogers offers, depending on tier:

Rogers Unlimited 50 = $90/month
Teksavvy Cable 75 = $72/month ($52/month for the first 6 months)

Rogers Unlimited 150 = $105/month
Rogers Unlimited 500 = $115/month
Teksavvy Cable 500 = $108/month ($89/month for the first 6 months)

Rogers Gigabit = $125/month
Teksavvy Cable 1024 = $118/month ($98/month for the first 6 months)

I can get Teksavvy, but Rogers has them beat on price. I'm getting 500Mbps for $60.


I can only assume you have a bundle price or it is some special temporary deal then because that's really cheap.

You can haggle with retentions every renewal but I personally would rather give money to companies that Rogers/Bell are trying to crush. I've been with start.ca for the past 5 years and the support and service has been top notch. They've lowered my bill on multiple occasions (when they win CRTC rulings) but recently they got done dirty and had to increase my bill by $5. I know that TekSavvy also has similar practices.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#403 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:54 pm

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lolwut wrote:I can get Teksavvy, but Rogers has them beat on price. I'm getting 500Mbps for $60.


I can only assume you have a bundle price or it is some special temporary deal then because that's really cheap.

You can haggle with retentions every renewal but I personally would rather give money to companies that Rogers/Bell are trying to crush. I've been with start.ca for the past 5 years and the support and service has been top notch. They've lowered my bill on multiple occasions (when they win CRTC rulings) but recently they got done dirty and had to increase my bill by $5. I know that TekSavvy also has similar practices.


I switched to Distributel for internet like a decade ago since they didn't have data caps. Rogers got me back with 1Gbit internet for cheap. Then Rogers tried to pull a fast one on me last year by doubling my rate as soon as my contract ended. I said I was going to go back to Distributel so they reactivated my old rate. I will switch as soon as soon as this contract is over. That was the height of the pandemic and I didn't want techs in my house (I still don't).

Been with Mobilicity and then Wind for mobile for about a decade as well. All the third party competitors got gobbled up because the CRTC didn't let them expand, but at least I got to keep my grandfathered rate, while still being upgraded to the Telus network.

**** Rogers/Bell/Telus.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#405 » by Morris_Shatford » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:03 pm

prelude00 wrote:Too many people here who either weren't around for the dark days or have just turned a blind eye to them.

The culture change that was brought in by Masai/Tim was HUGE. The words "believe in yourself, believe in your city" carried a lot of weight to them.

Toronto was NBA purgatory. Never taken seriously in the media (still isn't to some degree), no one ever wanted to play here and no one wanted to sign here. Shoot, we had Canadian players in the league who didn't even want to play here. This is probably what pushed Colangelo's obsession with going after European talent. They were less likely to run away to the States lol.

I never in my life thought the raptors would win a championship because of how poorly the team was managed.

I was worried that if Masai had left this year that the culture that was established would be pushed to the wayside in a couple years and we'd be back to the old days.

This man deserves everything he's gotten. Just following his story, you know he's a compassionate, hard-working individual who has the ability to truly affect change.

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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#406 » by TrustFundBaby » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:06 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
positivetension wrote:
ciueli wrote:
I can only assume you have a bundle price or it is some special temporary deal then because that's really cheap.

You can haggle with retentions every renewal but I personally would rather give money to companies that Rogers/Bell are trying to crush. I've been with start.ca for the past 5 years and the support and service has been top notch. They've lowered my bill on multiple occasions (when they win CRTC rulings) but recently they got done dirty and had to increase my bill by $5. I know that TekSavvy also has similar practices.


I switched to Distributel for internet like a decade ago since they didn't have data caps. Rogers got me back with 1Gbit internet for cheap. Then Rogers tried to pull a fast one on me last year by doubling my rate as soon as my contract ended. I said I was going to go back to Distributel so they reactivated my old rate. I will switch as soon as soon as this contract is over. That was the height of the pandemic and I didn't want techs in my house (I still don't).

Been with Mobilicity and then Wind for mobile for about a decade as well. All the third party competitors got gobbled up because the CRTC didn't let them expand, but at least I got to keep my grandfathered rate, while still being upgraded to the Telus network.

**** Rogers/Bell/Telus.


Same story here. Was with Distrubutel for 30 MBPs unlimited back when ROBELLUS were not offering unlimited, Rogers got me with their 500mbps unlimited for 25/mnth

...Difference is I folded at renewal times smh lol they doubled me to $50 for 1 GBPs, and then again to $65 :lol:

I regret it, I don't notice any difference, and when I go on Fast.com with my wired connection I only get ~600 MBPs.

On topic: **** this Ed Rogers bitch, man has the audacity to contribute nothing to society and ride his daddy's coattails and question what Masai brings, what a loser leech
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Post#407 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:07 pm

Have any of the sports outlet discussed this topic? I haven't heard anything from Sportsnet or TSN on the sports shows today.
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Post#408 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:17 pm

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He would be violating all the internal HR stuff that we all have to complete like 2 to 3 times per year. Incidentally....I just finished mine. They are getting more and more aggressive about public statements on social media. Lou's hands are tied on this one. And ppl will be watching closely.

let's all do him a favor and not put him in that spot for a call-in show or whatever. We finally have raptor coverage. Let's do our part to protect it. We know where he stands....he doesn't need to say anything.


would have to agree....this is way above his paid grade....


don't think for a sec, there's some spies from Ed reading this too


My SO and I are NOT the type to call out racism. We think that gets bandied around too much nowadays. But this whole 'bodyguard' thing reaks of it. Gotta admit. How much do we wanna bet those 2 guys in the car were black? Doesn't surprise me this is the type of assumption that the type of guy Ed apparently is.....makes on a regular basis. 2 black guys arriving with masai? Must be bodyguards smh.

It doesn't even make any sense. Does he honestly think that Masai is bringing two guys to physically intimidate him to a contract negoitation? Like that's just a child's reasoning.


Totally agree. Not sure how anyone can deny it. Let’s review what’s happened to Masai, a successful and universally respected executive, since his team won a title:

- was assaulted by a police officer and then criminally charged for assaulting the cop
- was sued civilly by the cop
- had the owner of his own franchise accuse him of being arrogant and bringing “bodyguards” to his cottage
- had the owner of his franchise tell him he’s overvalued to his face
- had the owner of his franchise try and get the commissioner to overturn his hiring

I’m sure had Bryan Colangelo achieved the same level of success with this franchise as Masai that he would have experience this crap. :roll:
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Post#409 » by xAIRNESSx » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:20 pm

Uncle Timmy Micallef covering the story right now. Glad he's not shying away.
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Post#410 » by EH15 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:20 pm

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Post#411 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:33 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Have any of the sports outlet discussed this topic? I haven't heard anything from Sportsnet or TSN on the sports shows today.


They are talking about it on Overdrive now.
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Post#412 » by Clay Davis » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:37 pm

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Post#413 » by SharoneWright » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:37 pm

Let's be honest. While grateful for what Masai has done, this was an Emeritus contract. It's to honour Masai's past work and keep up our perceived prestige in the league. If that prestige doesn't translate to free agent signings, then the contract is a fail. There's still plenty of chance for that to happen, but it certainly doesn't seem like a slam dunk. Additionally, Masai has been pretty clear that his interests are very divided if not completely elsewhere. We gave him the candy store while allowing him to shop around. Good for him. He's a good negotiator. But Ed has a right to be skeptical. That said, ultimately, I would have given Masai the bag too. He's pretty iconic and is reassuring to fans and investors.
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Post#414 » by Inevitable » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:40 pm

We should really break up these big telecom companies, unfortunately those in power are in bed with them.
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Post#415 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:43 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Have any of the sports outlet discussed this topic? I haven't heard anything from Sportsnet or TSN on the sports shows today.


They are talking about it on Overdrive now.


Quite the weird spin on it from Brian Hayes. Made it seem like a non story lol
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Post#416 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:44 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Let's be honest. While grateful for what Masai has done, this was an Emeritus contract. It's to honour Masai's past work and keep up our perceived prestige in the league. If that prestige doesn't translate to free agent signings, then the contract is a fail. There's still plenty of chance for that to happen, but it certainly doesn't seem like a slam dunk. Additionally, Masai has been pretty clear that his interests are very divided if not completely elsewhere. We gave him the candy store while allowing him to shop around. Good for him. He's a good negotiator. But Ed has a right to be skeptical. That said, ultimately, I would have given Masai the bag too. He's pretty iconic and is reassuring to fans and investors.


We won a championship without signing any free agents. We won it with great drafting, great development and having the guts to make a risky trade when a star became available. In other words, we won because we had fantastic people running this team who were all put in place and guided by Masai Ujiri.
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Post#417 » by dagger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 pm

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SharoneWright wrote:Let's be honest. While grateful for what Masai has done, this was an Emeritus contract. It's to honour Masai's past work and keep up our perceived prestige in the league. If that prestige doesn't translate to free agent signings, then the contract is a fail. There's still plenty of chance for that to happen, but it certainly doesn't seem like a slam dunk. Additionally, Masai has been pretty clear that his interests are very divided if not completely elsewhere. We gave him the candy store while allowing him to shop around. Good for him. He's a good negotiator. But Ed has a right to be skeptical. That said, ultimately, I would have given Masai the bag too. He's pretty iconic and is reassuring to fans and investors.


We won a championship without signing any free agents. We won it with great drafting, great development and having the guts to make a risky trade when a star became available. In other words, we won because we had fantastic people running this team who were all put in place and guided by Masai Ujiri.


Listen, when your mother tells you you are full of crap as Ed Rogers' mother is doing, it's pretty much an affirmation that you shouldn't be meddling in matters you don't understand or can't effectively manage.
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Post#418 » by Anticon » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Let's be honest. While grateful for what Masai has done, this was an Emeritus contract. It's to honour Masai's past work and keep up our perceived prestige in the league. If that prestige doesn't translate to free agent signings, then the contract is a fail. There's still plenty of chance for that to happen, but it certainly doesn't seem like a slam dunk. Additionally, Masai has been pretty clear that his interests are very divided if not completely elsewhere. We gave him the candy store while allowing him to shop around. Good for him. He's a good negotiator. But Ed has a right to be skeptical. That said, ultimately, I would have given Masai the bag too. He's pretty iconic and is reassuring to fans and investors.


I'm not sure why free agency matters more than any other means of player acquisition.

The only metric that matters is winning.
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Post#419 » by maternal85 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:47 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Let's be honest. While grateful for what Masai has done, this was an Emeritus contract. It's to honour Masai's past work and keep up our perceived prestige in the league. If that prestige doesn't translate to free agent signings, then the contract is a fail. There's still plenty of chance for that to happen, but it certainly doesn't seem like a slam dunk. Additionally, Masai has been pretty clear that his interests are very divided if not completely elsewhere. We gave him the candy store while allowing him to shop around. Good for him. He's a good negotiator. But Ed has a right to be skeptical. That said, ultimately, I would have given Masai the bag too. He's pretty iconic and is reassuring to fans and investors.


If Ujiri was white, and he ran the leafs with the same success, his salary wouldn't be an issue. He has more than deserved this contract. Stop it !!
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#420 » by dagger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:47 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Have any of the sports outlet discussed this topic? I haven't heard anything from Sportsnet or TSN on the sports shows today.


They are talking about it on Overdrive now.


Quite the weird spin on it from Brian Hayes. Made it seem like a non story lol


Well, it's really just a sidebar to the main conflict. I mean, this is all settled. the big show - the dueling boards - is just getting going, heading off to court.
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