Official 2022 Draft Thread

[PhilBlackson]

If anyone is bored with so little an NBA schedule, the guys in our draft range tonight are Agbaji on Kansas, Keels, Griffin, Wendel Moore and Mark Williams on Duke, Kennedy Chandler (tiny guard not a shooter though seems unlikely) and then a whole lot of guys who are interesting as undrafted types or if we get a 2nd rounder at the deadline.

If we pick in the high teens or later, Agbaji is on my radar. 2 way player with solid athleticism that is a superb spot up shooter. I think there is potential there to get to some off dribble work and do a lot of the things Gary currently does for us. But, if we can get this guy open shots off the catch, he can flat out knock them down, and could be a guy that if we can continue to shape the roster like we are, can be a secondary ball handler to trott out there with a few 6'9" point guard, point forwards or whatever you want to call them. Like him as a very solid bench piece / shot taker and maker.

It's easy to see him as an NBA 2 guard, but he's only 14 months older than Trent and seems similarly allergic to passing. Terrible steals rate too.

I don't see Masai taking him at #20 over someone 3 years younger like Christie, Keels, Dyson or Sochan, as he just has to believe in one of them becoming a good shooter. Or maybe not even a guy a year younger in Champagnie who gets steals at over 2x the rate, blocks over 4x, more assist, more rebounds and is still shooting 40% on fairly high volume of 3s.

Agbaji looks decent when I watch him, but his numbers are scary. Doesn't do much apart from shoot, and his FT% numbers are genuinely ugly until this year, when they're still kinda bad, and those are apparently more predictive of shooting overall from 3 in the NBA because of the larger sample size.

I'd be surprised if we pick him based on what Masai does generally. Feels like a guy other teams will want in the mid to late 20s and we'll have in the 40s on our board.

There's no way they're passing on Champagnie when he will only further deepen the team chemistry with his brother here and is pretty much killing Agbaji statistically right across the board and also a larger player since apparently we have a thing for height & wingspans lol

Not saying it will be Julian that we pick but just that I don't see how Ochai can even be ahead of him in the pecking order and as you said there will still be guys like Christie, Keels, McGowens, Beauchamps...possibly TyTy is still on the board (my dream of AJ is dying rapidly lol) really not sure how they would sell themselves on him being better than the bunch and especially if he doesn't stand out statistically.

[Psubs]

If anyone is bored with so little an NBA schedule, the guys in our draft range tonight are Agbaji on Kansas, Keels, Griffin, Wendel Moore and Mark Williams on Duke, Kennedy Chandler (tiny guard not a shooter though seems unlikely) and then a whole lot of guys who are interesting as undrafted types or if we get a 2nd rounder at the deadline.

If we pick in the high teens or later, Agbaji is on my radar. 2 way player with solid athleticism that is a superb spot up shooter. I think there is potential there to get to some off dribble work and do a lot of the things Gary currently does for us. But, if we can get this guy open shots off the catch, he can flat out knock them down, and could be a guy that if we can continue to shape the roster like we are, can be a secondary ball handler to trott out there with a few 6'9" point guard, point forwards or whatever you want to call them. Like him as a very solid bench piece / shot taker and maker.

It's easy to see him as an NBA 2 guard, but he's only 14 months older than Trent and seems similarly allergic to passing. Terrible steals rate too.

I don't see Masai taking him at #20 over someone 3 years younger like Christie, Keels, Dyson or Sochan, as he just has to believe in one of them becoming a good shooter. Or maybe not even a guy a year younger in Champagnie who gets steals at over 2x the rate, blocks over 4x, more assist, more rebounds and is still shooting 40% on fairly high volume of 3s.

Agbaji looks decent when I watch him, but his numbers are scary. Doesn't do much apart from shoot, and his FT% numbers are genuinely ugly until this year, when they're still kinda bad, and those are apparently more predictive of shooting overall from 3 in the NBA because of the larger sample size.

I'd be surprised if we pick him based on what Masai does generally. Feels like a guy other teams will want in the mid to late 20s and we'll have in the 40s on our board.

I easily choose Julian Champagnie over Agbaji, also he seems to be able to contribute more on defense with deflections. Also he seems to be able to have enough handles and lateral quickness to play SG at least as well as OG.

Julian Champagnie seems to be the safer pick but if Kendall Brown and him are on the board that might be a tough decision. Will Kendal Brown be better than JC, maybe but on offense he's like 2-3 years behind.

[Ell Curry]

If we pick in the high teens or later, Agbaji is on my radar. 2 way player with solid athleticism that is a superb spot up shooter. I think there is potential there to get to some off dribble work and do a lot of the things Gary currently does for us. But, if we can get this guy open shots off the catch, he can flat out knock them down, and could be a guy that if we can continue to shape the roster like we are, can be a secondary ball handler to trott out there with a few 6'9" point guard, point forwards or whatever you want to call them. Like him as a very solid bench piece / shot taker and maker.

It's easy to see him as an NBA 2 guard, but he's only 14 months older than Trent and seems similarly allergic to passing. Terrible steals rate too.

I don't see Masai taking him at #20 over someone 3 years younger like Christie, Keels, Dyson or Sochan, as he just has to believe in one of them becoming a good shooter. Or maybe not even a guy a year younger in Champagnie who gets steals at over 2x the rate, blocks over 4x, more assist, more rebounds and is still shooting 40% on fairly high volume of 3s.

Agbaji looks decent when I watch him, but his numbers are scary. Doesn't do much apart from shoot, and his FT% numbers are genuinely ugly until this year, when they're still kinda bad, and those are apparently more predictive of shooting overall from 3 in the NBA because of the larger sample size.

I'd be surprised if we pick him based on what Masai does generally. Feels like a guy other teams will want in the mid to late 20s and we'll have in the 40s on our board.

There's no way they're passing on Champagnie when he will only further deepen the team chemistry with his brother here and is pretty much killing Agbaji statistically right across the board and also a larger player since apparently we have a thing for height & wingspans lol

Not saying it will be Julian that we pick but just that I don't see how Ochai can even be ahead of him in the pecking order and as you said there will still be guys like Christie, Keels, McGowens, Beauchamps...possibly TyTy is still on the board (my dream of AJ is dying rapidly lol) really not sure how they would sell themselves on him being better than the bunch and especially if he doesn't stand out statistically.

I think in general the guys who play really **** well as upperclassmen but weren't great as freshman and sophomores get overrated by fans relative to how NBA teams see them. When you're watching Agbaji look like a decent NBA 2 guard and McGowens or Keels shooting terribly it's hard to really keep it in your mind that Agbaji also shot like 30% from 3 as a freshman.

I watch all the Michigan games so will be curious to see them play Max Christie. Also Caleb Houstan finally had a good game, if he can build from there and goes Pro since he was definitely planning to be a one and done before doing a Reddish, and if we pick 20th maybe Masai will see it as a chance to get a long wing (Canadian) shooter who was expected to go 10th or so for a nice value.

But overall I agree. Masai just has to like one of the rawer, younger wings over Agbaji, not all of them.

[Kevin Willis]

It's easy to see him as an NBA 2 guard, but he's only 14 months older than Trent and seems similarly allergic to passing. Terrible steals rate too.

I don't see Masai taking him at #20 over someone 3 years younger like Christie, Keels, Dyson or Sochan, as he just has to believe in one of them becoming a good shooter. Or maybe not even a guy a year younger in Champagnie who gets steals at over 2x the rate, blocks over 4x, more assist, more rebounds and is still shooting 40% on fairly high volume of 3s.

Agbaji looks decent when I watch him, but his numbers are scary. Doesn't do much apart from shoot, and his FT% numbers are genuinely ugly until this year, when they're still kinda bad, and those are apparently more predictive of shooting overall from 3 in the NBA because of the larger sample size.

I'd be surprised if we pick him based on what Masai does generally. Feels like a guy other teams will want in the mid to late 20s and we'll have in the 40s on our board.

There's no way they're passing on Champagnie when he will only further deepen the team chemistry with his brother here and is pretty much killing Agbaji statistically right across the board and also a larger player since apparently we have a thing for height & wingspans lol

Not saying it will be Julian that we pick but just that I don't see how Ochai can even be ahead of him in the pecking order and as you said there will still be guys like Christie, Keels, McGowens, Beauchamps...possibly TyTy is still on the board (my dream of AJ is dying rapidly lol) really not sure how they would sell themselves on him being better than the bunch and especially if he doesn't stand out statistically.

I think in general the guys who play really **** well as upperclassmen but weren't great as freshman and sophomores get overrated by fans relative to how NBA teams see them. When you're watching Agbaji look like a decent NBA 2 guard and McGowens or Keels shooting terribly it's hard to really keep it in your mind that Agbaji also shot like 30% from 3 as a freshman.

I watch all the Michigan games so will be curious to see them play Max Christie. Also Caleb Houstan finally had a good game, if he can build from there and goes Pro since he was definitely planning to be a one and done before doing a Reddish, and if we pick 20th maybe Masai will see it as a chance to get a long wing (Canadian) shooter who was expected to go 10th or so for a nice value.

But overall I agree. Masai just has to like one of the rawer, younger wings over Agbaji, not all of them.

Caleb really dropped off a bit, which is a shame. His weaknesses were really exploited.

[Ell Curry]

Yeah, if we like him and he comes out, seems like the move would be to trade down for Memphis' 27th and 28th from like 16-22 or wherever we end up and grab a raw guy we like too like Christie or Kamagate, or a Bane type playing well but kinda unfashionable who fits us a long defending wing like Keon Ellis or Champagnie.

[BoyzNTheHood]

If we tank towards the end of the year, my hope is that we can pick one of Johnny Davis or Mathurin. It’s a long shot, but a man can dream.

Johnny Davis looks like he'll be frustratingly good in the NBA, but I think he'll be out of our range.

[Psubs]

Yeah, if we like him and he comes out, seems like the move would be to trade down for Memphis' 27th and 28th from like 16-22 or wherever we end up and grab a raw guy we like too like Christie or Kamagate, or a Bane type playing well but kinda unfashionable who fits us a long defending wing like Keon Ellis or Champagnie.

Doesn't Champagnie remind anyone of a 6'8 version of Bane?

[Mark_83]

About a month ago I was hyping Johnny Davis and now he's out of our range. I'm still on AJ Griffin at our slot if he enters, or Champagnie.

[ItsDanger]

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Of note in current top 25 rankings, 3 of the 4 teams start a Canadian. Gonzaga(Nembhard), Arizona (Mathurin), Purdue (Edey).

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[Karanpal]

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That's great more talent which means a prospect will get bumped down

[Madhouse]

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I would pick him first.

[wegotthabeet]

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ho man! might have to rev the tank back up haha.

[ItsDanger]

I'd stay at Kentucky for 22/23 season if I was Sharpe. Work on your game and come out ready to be a rotation player.

[Ell Curry]

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Edey dominated Kofi.

Of note in current top 25 rankings, 3 of the 4 teams start a Canadian. Gonzaga(Nembhard), Arizona (Mathurin), Purdue (Edey).

I think Edey is a really interesting 2nd rounder or undrafted type for us because he's just so gigantic he'd give us something different at the 5 for the 10-20 minutes a night matchup dependent player he probably is. Like if he's the only proper center on the team and we use the MLE and our first rounder on a guard and a wing who can both shoot it.

[Indeed]

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Edey dominated Kofi.

Of note in current top 25 rankings, 3 of the 4 teams start a Canadian. Gonzaga(Nembhard), Arizona (Mathurin), Purdue (Edey).

I think Edey is a really interesting 2nd rounder or undrafted type for us because he's just so gigantic he'd give us something different at the 5 for the 10-20 minutes a night matchup dependent player he probably is. Like if he's the only proper center on the team and we use the MLE and our first rounder on a guard and a wing who can both shoot it.

I think Edey maybe a bit different with his ability to pass the ball, but we also tried to acquire a very big C

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[Indeed]

Yeah, if we like him and he comes out, seems like the move would be to trade down for Memphis' 27th and 28th from like 16-22 or wherever we end up and grab a raw guy we like too like Christie or Kamagate, or a Bane type playing well but kinda unfashionable who fits us a long defending wing like Keon Ellis or Champagnie.

Doesn't Champagnie remind anyone of a 6'8 version of Bane?

I think he can be a good shooter, just not sure if the Raptors wants to draft a low risk prospect. Maybe wait for the combine on his quickness measurement, since he wasn't known for a quick first step.

If Champagnie dropped to the 2nd round and we got a pick, we might take him. But I feel the Raptors like high risk projects (with high IQ).

[Ell Curry]

So Shaedon Sharpe can apparently come out, which would be nice as he would presumably go in the 6-10 range and bump one pick back to us (and presumably that matters more this year if we expect to pick worse next year by slightly improving with a young team whose bench can't get worse unless we lose Boucher and everything else we do is a disaster, or we have major injuries to our starting 5). He's technically eligible to play for Kentucky and is practicing. They have 8 rotation guys then it looks like not much else, so maybe if there's an injury they'll plug him in and he'll come out in the 2022 draft?

[Psubs]

Yeah, if we like him and he comes out, seems like the move would be to trade down for Memphis' 27th and 28th from like 16-22 or wherever we end up and grab a raw guy we like too like Christie or Kamagate, or a Bane type playing well but kinda unfashionable who fits us a long defending wing like Keon Ellis or Champagnie.

Doesn't Champagnie remind anyone of a 6'8 version of Bane?

I think he can be a good shooter, just not sure if the Raptors wants to draft a low risk prospect. Maybe wait for the combine on his quickness measurement, since he wasn't known for a quick first step.

If Champagnie dropped to the 2nd round and we got a pick, we might take him. But I feel the Raptors like high risk projects (with high IQ).

Later half of the 1st you take the Duarte's and Banes that have potential to be a starter or at least a rotational player. Keep hitting on your draft picks to build the depth from the loss of Kawhi, Ibaka and Gasol for just cap space.

I feel like he's going to be like a Marcus Morris with more deflections on defense.

[HumbleRen]

Get me some hoopers, I'm tired of raw prospects.