Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[dagger]

Deng (also plays PF and is a good rebounder), future 1st, and rights to Omer Asik (23 y/o 7', 260lb defensive shot blocking gorilla Turkish center)

for Bosh

So now we would have two grossly overpaid, under-performing small forwards?

Big contract, redundancy, crappy first, prospect who might never come to the NBA or amount to anything?

For that, Bosh can walk for nothing IMO

I understand you have Hedo, but IMO that shouldn't deter you from acquiring the better player. Somewhat similar, the Pistons signed Gordon knowing they still had RIP (big minute player still, traded soon?). Point is I think you can pump Hedo up and sell him, and then have Deng slide in. If you don't think thats possible, then I understand why you'd be against it. But the assumption is Deng to be the superior player going forward.

Actually it would deter any rational team owner who faces the likelihood of a rebuilding or at least a retooling. Pump up Hedo and sell him... ? Is there enough Viagra in the world to do that? Deng is the superior player, but not nearly good enough to go that route.

[pass first]

Actually it would deter any rational team owner who faces the likelihood of a rebuilding or at least a retooling. Pump up Hedo and sell him... ? Is there enough Viagra in the world to do that? Deng is the superior player, but not nearly good enough to go that route.

Dude don't you get it??? We could have what the Pistons have.. whenever Rip is injured Ben Gordon steps in and vice versa. We can have what we have at the point guard.. not an All Star but two mediocre starters as a combo is much better. Calderford, Calderjack, Dengoglu. Think about it. If we re-sign Wright and keep Weems and play DeRozan some at the 3 we can give LeBrick 5 different looks.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Heres my idea with Chicago.

Toronto Sends:
Chris Bosh
Hedo Turkaglu

Toronto Gets:
Loul Deng
Taj Gibson
Kirk Hinrich
Rights to James Anderson (#17)

Nice rebuilding package, increased defense which is what i like.

Chicago Sends:
Kirk Hinrich
Loul Deng
Taj Gibson
Rights to #17

Chicago Gets:
Hedo Turkaglu
Chris Bosh

they can sign depth after this. Would have max room still but go after 2nd tier guys like Allen, Howard, Miller, ect.

follow it up with Calderon for Curry (saves NYK 2.3 million)

Jack/Hinrich/Banks
Derozan/Weems/Belinelli
Deng/Anderson(#17)
Gibson/Johnson/Evans
Bargnani/Udoh(#12)/Curry

solid rebuilding team. You then have 20 million expiring contracts to use also.

[Lawnmower Man]

OKC would have to be involved in order for us to get a good deal.

I would love Harden + Ibaka for Bosh
But I don't think OKC would trade the both of them (they will both be solid players in this league)

A three-way deal with Minnesota, OKC, and Toronto could work
- Toronto receives the rights to Ricky Rubio
- Minnesota receives James Harden
- OKC receives Bosh

This would be the best and most realistic deal (assuming Bosh is fine with going to OKC).

Minnesota needs a young swingman and many have mentioned that they probably should've drafted DeRozan. The Rubio-Flynn combo will likely not work, or even materialize. The longer Rubio doesn't sign in Minny, the more embarassing this situation could become for them (think Fran Vasquez).
OKC needs a big, and Bosh is one of the best ones out there. A trio of Durant, Bosh, and Westbrook would take the West in two years.
Toronto needs some talent. They are not in win-now situation, and Rubio has All-Star potential, and would likely sign in Toronto due to the ongoing "international" and "european" propaganda that is being pushed by Toronto.

[LAUGHING]

Would this trade to new jersey work salary wise?

To toronto: 1st overall pick (john wall)

[LAUGHING]

Would this trade to new jersey work salary wise?

To toronto: 1st overall pick (john wall)
Terrence williams
To new jersey: Re-signed CB4
Hedo

Would this trade work salary wise?

EDIT: nevermind,i think this trade is better

resigned CB,Hedo,Belli
for 1st overall pick, bobby simmons, twill

I'm not sure if salaries match but would you guys do this ?

We would have a roster of

Wall-jack-jose
Twill-weems
DD-simmons
Bargs-Amir
Whiteside-Bargs

We can try to trade Jose to Memphis for the 26th and 28th pick and maybe a filler to make salaries work... We can use those draft picks to get more young and let them develop.

Wall-Jack
Twill-Weems
DD-Simmons-26th
Bargnani-Amir
Whiteside-28th

We then hire JVG and let the young guys develop as we are rebuilding...

[RapsGM]

Would this trade to new jersey work salary wise?

To toronto: 1st overall pick (john wall)
Terrence williams
To new jersey: Re-signed CB4
Hedo

Would this trade work salary wise?

EDIT: nevermind,i think this trade is better

resigned CB,Hedo,Belli
for 1st overall pick, bobby simmons, twill

That would be awesome but I dont think the Nets trade the first overall pick for Bosh. But it is possible because you do have to wonder how many number one picks ever get as good as Bosh. The nets would become instant contenders with Bosh, Lopez, Harris, and maybe some other pieces or another max. Maybe the raps can then flip the first for the 3-6 pick and get a nice piece along with the pick and draft Cole Aldrich or Demarcus Cousins?

[LAUGHING]

Would this trade to new jersey work salary wise?

To toronto: 1st overall pick (john wall)
Terrence williams
To new jersey: Re-signed CB4
Hedo

Would this trade work salary wise?

EDIT: nevermind,i think this trade is better

resigned CB,Hedo,Belli
for 1st overall pick, bobby simmons, twill

That would be awesome but I dont think the Nets trade the first overall pick for Bosh. But it is possible because you do have to wonder how many number one picks ever get as good as Bosh. The nets would become instant contenders with Bosh, Lopez, Harris, and maybe some other pieces or another max. Maybe the raps can then flip the first for the 3-6 pick and get a nice piece along with the pick and draft Cole Aldrich or Demarcus Cousins?

Um, i think drafting Cole Aldrich at 6 is way too early and i think we should just keep the 1st overall and use our 12th pick to get a real C because john wall would be really important to us if we want to go with the run and gun system with DD, Twill and Wall would be dominate for years to come.

[RapsGM]

Well LAUGHING, I think it all depends who we think we can get back from a Bosh deal. If we will be able to get Bynum then I am all for drafting Wall and hoping for Xavier Henry at 12. But if we get a couple of wings or draft picks, then our biggest weakness going into the season is getting a legit starting center beside Bargs. Now I don't know if Cousins or Aldrich is that, but I think its worth the gamble.

[Mezotarkus]

I'm guessing the deal will be

Miami gets
Bosh 126 mil S&T

Toronto gets
Toronto 2010 1st
Miami 2010 1st (I could see them squeezing us and making it the 2011 pick, though)
James Jones
Daequon Cook
TPE

Miami gives 2 picks but also clears 4 mil in capspace. We can possibly package our two 14-20 picks into a top 10 one or just pick two players.

Or Bosh signs a 5 year max deal and lets his future team keep all those pieces.

[LAUGHING]

Well LAUGHING, I think it all depends who we think we can get back from a Bosh deal. If we will be able to get Bynum then I am all for drafting Wall and hoping for Xavier Henry at 12. But if we get a couple of wings or draft picks, then our biggest weakness going into the season is getting a legit starting center beside Bargs. Now I don't know if Cousins or Aldrich is that, but I think its worth the gamble.

Um how bout this ?

Nets and Raptors
Resigned CB4 for 1st Overall pick
Hedo - Bobby simmons
Belli - Twill

New jersey does this to convince LeBron or JJ or Wade to come to newjersey to pair up with CB. They get a replacement for Simmons in Hedo(similar contracts) and get a prospect in Belli for Twill.

Grizzlies and Raptors
Jose for Marco Jaric
- 26th overall pick
- 28th overall pick

We do this trade for the picks and to get rid of jose's contract but take a bad contract in Jaric. Memphis does this trade for a decent PG that they lack, and since they would have no use in Jaric since Brewer and Mayo already hold the 2 position.

Fire JT and continue to pay his contract and hire JVG.

Resign Amir Johnson 2 years 4M
Sign JO/Camby for 3/4 of MLE
1st overall pick: John Wall
12th overall pick : Hassan Whiteside
26th overall pick- Eric Bledsoe
28th overall pick - TBA

2010-2011 Toronto Raptors

PG: John Wall - Jarett Jack - Eric Bledsoe -
SG: Terrence Williams - Sonny Weems -
SF: DeMar DeRozan - Bobby Simmons -
PF: Andrea Bargnani - Amir Johnson -
Cc: Hassan Whiteside - Jermaine Oneal - 28th overall pick

DNP:Reggie Evans, Marco Jaric, Marcus Banks

Coach Jeff Van Gundy

[RapsGM]

I dont think the Grizz trade for Cack. Won't Jaric be expiring next year? And Conley played decent this year, enough that they would rather play him, then pay Caldy money like that. Although whats so great about this Whiteside guy? Alot of people are talking about him.

If we were to get the 26th and 28th pick, I would pray that we somehow either get Grevis Vasquez or Willie Warren (he has dropped alot this year in draft stock).

[LAUGHING]

I dont think the Grizz trade for Cack. Won't Jaric be expiring next year? And Conley played decent this year, enough that they would rather play him, then pay Caldy money like that. Although whats so great about this Whiteside guy? Alot of people are talking about him.

If we were to get the 26th and 28th pick, I would pray that we somehow either get Grevis Vasquez or Willie Warren (he has dropped alot this year in draft stock).

Marco Jaric still has a year left with memphis, and i think Memphis would do it because they would get Jose to back up Conley instead of having Jaric just sitting there... Hassan Whiteside is a 7'0 F/C(freshman) that averaged 13/9 in 26 min playing for Marshall. I think he can start at the C for us and have Bargs playing the 4 where he belongs. He can also rebound as he is averaging almost 9 rebounds a game.(8.9)

[JamesNaismith]

Why do you guys keep mentioning the #1 pick?

a) The Nets won't do it with all the hype around Wall and his contract will be 1/4 of Bosh's

b) They can SIGN Bosh (or any other FA) to a max deal and KEEP their #1 draft pick so why trade?

c) Do you really think Bosh wants to take a chance this point in his career (you do know HE has to agree to the S&T don't you?) with just Harris and Lopez on the team; considering those same 2 lead their team to the second worst record in NBA history?????


Just stupid.

[mini]

Why would NJ ever deal the 1st overall for Bosh? They could sign Amare for 'free', keep the pick and then still deal Harris for something very useful.
Wall, Lee, ?? (T-Will), Amare, Lopez + (Harris trade) is a lot better than Harris, Lee, Bosh, Lopez.

We will be lucky to get expirings and some decent picks for Bosh.

[LAUGHING]

Why do you guys keep mentioning the #1 pick?

a) The Nets won't do it with all the hype around Wall and his contract will be 1/4 of Bosh's

b) They can SIGN Bosh (or any other FA) to a max deal and KEEP their #1 draft pick so why trade?

c) Do you really think Bosh wants to take a chance this point in his career (you do know HE has to agree to the S&T don't you?) with just Harris and Lopez on the team; considering those same 2 lead their team to the second worst record in NBA history?????


Just stupid.

a) The nets have a billionaire owner that is willing to spend on this team. If they won't trade Wall i will settle with Harris.
b)If we S&T Bosh to NJ they can sign another player (Wade,JJ,Bron) to the max deal, so instead of just signing Bosh, they can sign another player.
c) If i were Bosh i'd choose new jersey over toronto anyday. Lopez and Harris is a better core than Bargnani and Jose... Plus, NJ would be starting fresh ( moving to brooklyn) and they still have money to sign a max player. Harris-Lee-LeBron-Bosh-Lopez / Harris-Wade/JJ-Hedo-Bosh-Lopez.

[Rapsobsessed7]

simmons isnt under contract BTW. So they cant sign anyone else.

[JamesNaismith]

a) The nets have a billionaire owner that is willing to spend on this team. If they won't trade Wall i will settle with Harris.
b)If we S&T Bosh to NJ they can sign another player (Wade,JJ,Bron) to the max deal, so instead of just signing Bosh, they can sign another player.
c) If i were Bosh i'd choose new jersey over toronto anyday. Lopez and Harris is a better core than Bargnani and Jose... Plus, NJ would be starting fresh ( moving to brooklyn) and they still have money to sign a max player. Harris-Lee-LeBron-Bosh-Lopez / Harris-Wade/JJ-Hedo-Bosh-Lopez.

a) Why would you want Harris when you have Jack and Calderon???? The only sense to completely log jam the hell out of your PG position would be a franchise player....again NJ won't be doing that with the hype around Wall who most predict to have a better career then Bosh

b) What other contracts are you including here? A rookie contract far from covers a $120+mill dollars....and then you are assuming NJN trades for Bosh giving him a $130mill/6yr contract but Wade or Bron take 5yrs at $100 LOL.....that's @ssbackwards my friend.

c) Lopez & Harris are better BUT that's not the entire team and as explained in the previous point FAs like Bron and Wade who are worth MORE then Bosh aren't taking less so best case scenario they get Rudy Gay....that team is minimally better, certainly nowhere near championship/contendor material and he would be better off just going to MIA or CHI.

[Condi Rice]

Why do you guys keep mentioning the #1 pick?

a) The Nets won't do it with all the hype around Wall and his contract will be 1/4 of Bosh's

b) They can SIGN Bosh (or any other FA) to a max deal and KEEP their #1 draft pick so why trade?

c) Do you really think Bosh wants to take a chance this point in his career (you do know HE has to agree to the S&T don't you?) with just Harris and Lopez on the team; considering those same 2 lead their team to the second worst record in NBA history?????


Just stupid.

a) The nets have a billionaire owner that is willing to spend on this team. If they won't trade Wall i will settle with Harris.
b)If we S&T Bosh to NJ they can sign another player (Wade,JJ,Bron) to the max deal, so instead of just signing Bosh, they can sign another player.
c) If i were Bosh i'd choose new jersey over toronto anyday. Lopez and Harris is a better core than Bargnani and Jose... Plus, NJ would be starting fresh ( moving to brooklyn) and they still have money to sign a max player. Harris-Lee-LeBron-Bosh-Lopez / Harris-Wade/JJ-Hedo-Bosh-Lopez.

Only if the Nets throw in Yi!!

[Ong_dynasty]

I'm guessing the deal will be

Miami gets
Bosh 126 mil S&T

Toronto gets
Toronto 2010 1st
Miami 2010 1st (I could see them squeezing us and making it the 2011 pick, though)
James Jones
Daequon Cook
TPE

Miami gives 2 picks but also clears 4 mil in capspace. We can possibly package our two 14-20 picks into a top 10 one or just pick two players.

Or Bosh signs a 5 year max deal and lets his future team keep all those pieces.

Yes Because Daequon Cook, James Jones and 2 mid 1st Rounders for the heat is worth $30million for Bosh.!