Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 5

Post #421 » by **5DOM** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:11 am

Steely Reserve wrote:I think its important to note that when a player has matched Williams in physicality and mobility, he isn't anywhere close to the player he's hyped up to be. Look at his games against UCLA and Texas for reference.

IMO, he doesn't show the first step explosion to beat mobile power forwards at the next level. He'd would have to have an elite shot off the bounce and catch & shoot situations in order to consistently beat 4s inbthe NBA. Not to mention he's also an average passer, if that.

He scored 22 points on 70 FG% against UCLA, 27 points on 60 FG% against KU, 32 points on 65 FG% against Duke. Even in that Texas game, he scored 17 points on 14 shots, terrible by his high standards but not even that bad. In fact if Harrison Barnes scored 17 points on 14 shots, people would say he did a good job

TheRealDeal · Post #422 » by **TheRealDeal** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:11 am

TheDunc wrote:Who has a better shot at being SF? Perry or D-Will?

PJ for lateral quicks, ball handling and overall defense. D-Will is a little slow for guarding 3's in the NBA. Jones is also taller which you think would make him the better prospect but Williams seems to have the "it" factor. Perry Jones is a project but I feel like he'd be a great player if we could teach him to play the 3.

A_wildstabatanything · Post #423 » by **A_wildstabatanything** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:13 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahSNN9mo9PE[/youtube]
Kemba over Knight is a no contest for me.

Post #424 » by **5DOM** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:13 am

I think Williams is a 4, but if we are making him into a 3, he can just drop some weight, something he can do now that he doesn't have to guard 5's

Reef · Post #425 » by **Reef** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:16 am

A_wildstabatanything wrote:Kemba over Knight is a no contest for me.

Same. He has that "it" factor. He's just unstoppable and can create openings anywhere he wants. Plus, he has the shot to go with it.

sunny · Post #426 » by **sunny** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:16 am

For those who don't know who Doug Shows is, I suggest you research him.
Absolutely pathetic.

Nothingface · Post #427 » by **Nothingface** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:17 am

Can I assume no one wants Donatas Motiejunas?

I think he would be a great fit. He has C skills and talent.

MinnyMo · Post #428 » by **MinnyMo** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:19 am

A_wildstabatanything wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahSNN9mo9PE[/youtube]
Kemba over Knight is a no contest for me.

+1, After watching knight in all the games thus far in the tournament, I'm getting a Bayless vibe from him. Walker has killer instinct, he absolutely must take the last shot and he not afraid to.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #429 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:23 am

What a pass by Kemba

prototype · Post #430 » by **prototype** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 am

MinnyMo wrote:
A_wildstabatanything wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahSNN9mo9PE[/youtube]
Kemba over Knight is a no contest for me.

+1, After watching knight in all the games thus far in the tournament, I'm getting a Bayless vibe from him. Walker has killer instinct, he absolutely must take the last shot and he not afraid to.

Uh Knight scored two game winning baskets in the tourney to advance so he has just as much of a killer instinct.

MEDIC · Post #431 » by **MEDIC** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 am

Reef wrote:
A_wildstabatanything wrote:Kemba over Knight is a no contest for me.

Same. He has that "it" factor. He's just unstoppable and can create openings anywhere he wants. Plus, he has the shot to go with it.

Yup. It's not even close for me.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #432 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:26 am

UCONN runs a lot of the stuff the Raptors run with respect to pick-n-rolls, pick-n-pops, except they have weakside action in the form of off-the-ball movement.

Test of Wills · Post #433 » by **Test of Wills** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:28 am

I haven't been on this board for awhile but I've been reading and been watching March Madness heavily.

The thing about Kemba Walker is he has that 'IT' factor. He goes out there and just straight up competes with heart and determination. And you can't teach that and thats what separates the great players from others. He almost reminds me of a young Iverson, kinda of like the littlest man with the biggest heart on the court mentality. Obviously with a little less scoring ability but the way he creates for his teammates is on par if not better than Iverson.

My draft board as if now is:

Irving
Williams
Walker
Knight
Barnes

Irving is the one sure-fire player in this draft, he'll be a good one. Williams is a PLAYER and knows how to put the ball in the hoop really well, I envision as a 3 more than anything. I really like Knight as an 18 y/o he's showing tons of competitiveness and moxxy out there but I'm not sure if he can be that PG to lead a team deep into the playoffs but yet again he's only 18 with a ton of upside, time will tell though. Barnes has a ton of upside and shows flashes of great play but he looks like a player that you will always want more from kinda like his fellow alumni in Marvin Williams and when your picking in the top-5 or 6 you need a guy that can prove his worth consistently.

prototype · Post #434 » by **prototype** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:29 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:UCONN runs a lot of the stuff the Raptors run with respect to pick-n-rolls, pick-n-pops, except they have weakside action in the form of off-the-ball movement.

What's funny is I was watching one of those Raptor Rewind games and Smitch had a lot of weak side action going on during our pick plays. With Jay, it has disappeared and everyone has become a spectator.

MEDIC · Post #435 » by **MEDIC** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:30 am

You gotta think how much better Kemba's game will translate to the NBA as well.

Look at the video above. How many times does he get hit driving to the rim with no foul called, but still finishes the play.

He's going to get to the line 10 times a game in the NBA. He's got Derrick Rose quickness.

Reef · Post #436 » by **Reef** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:33 am

MEDIC wrote:You gotta think how much better Kemba's game will translate to the NBA as well.

Look at the video above. How many times does he get hit driving to the rim with no foul called, but still finishes the play.

He's going to get to the line 10 times a game in the NBA. He's got Derrick Rose quickness.

More man-to-man defenses and 3 in the key will only help Kemba.

prototype · Post #437 » by **prototype** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:36 am

Test of Wills wrote:I haven't been on this board for awhile but I've been reading and been watching March Madness heavily.

The thing about Kemba Walker is he has that 'IT' factor. He goes out there and just straight up competes with heart and determination. And you can't teach that and thats what separates the great players from others. He almost reminds me of a young Iverson, kinda of like the littlest man with the biggest heart on the court mentality. Obviously with a little less scoring ability but the way he creates for his teammates is on par if not better than Iverson.

My draft board as if now is:

Irving
Williams
Walker
Knight
Barnes

Irving is the one sure-fire player in this draft, he'll be a good one. Williams is a PLAYER and knows how to put the ball in the hoop really well, I envision as a 3 more than anything. I really like Knight as an 18 y/o he's showing tons of competitiveness and moxxy out there but I'm not sure if he can be that PG to lead a team deep into the playoffs but yet again he's only 18 with a ton of upside, time will tell though. Barnes has a ton of upside and shows flashes of great play but he looks like a player that you will always want more from kinda like his fellow alumni in Marvin Williams and when your picking in the top-5 or 6 you need a guy that can prove his worth consistently.

My draft board is the same. Irving, Williams, Walker and Knight all have game changing qualities when they're on the court that makes me think they can become big time players in the league. Barnes hasn't shown that quality consistently. He just seems like he's there and we have enough players like that on the team.

So Clutch · Post #438 » by **So Clutch** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:38 am

lol look at that will. Kid can rebound well for a midget too.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #439 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:38 am

It amazes me how Kemba finishes amongst the trees in the paint.

Reef · Post #440 » by **Reef** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:40 am

What a crossover. Damn.