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Re: Official Toronto Raptors Offseason Thread *UPDATES* 

Post#421 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:41 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:These numbers show you exactly why not having Ibaka will be a huge problem for this team.


no it doesn't.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#422 » by bape_lovers » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:46 pm

didnt even know Serge had that many fans? where was these people when Serge joined us in 2016?

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SurgeIblocka wrote:These numbers show you exactly why not having Ibaka will be a huge problem for this team.


no it doesn't.
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Post#423 » by Ell Curry » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:02 pm

everdiso wrote:Net Rating

1. Gasol +10.1
2. Siakam +8.8
3. Davis +7.9
4. OG +6.2
5. Lowry +6.0
6. Boucher +5.8
7. VanVleet +4.8
8. Powell +4.6
9. RHJ +4.2
10. Thomas +4.2
11. Ibaka +3.1
12. McCaw +0.6


Gasol is a big loss, but Ibaka isn't, despite his insane shooting hot streak in the bubble.


Yeah, to me Boucher can definitely fill Ibaka's role, but while I don't hate the Baynes and Len signings, to me the only real possibility of filling Gasol's place for the playoffs is OG playing at the 5 and then his minutes at the 3/4 get taken by Davis (if he plays) or maybe Paul Watson (who I'm high on) or more likely we need to trade for another frontcourt player. Stanley + McCaw and a couple of 2nds for PJ Tucker or one second for Nemanja Bjelica is sort of interesting.

My guess is next summer Powell becomes a UFA and leaves for a big offer elsewhere and we strike out on a max guy and bring back Lowry for like 15M and spend most of the remaining 25M on one more player, whether that's an Oladipo and we play smallball, Gobert to give us a traditional center or someone like Drummond, Vucevic, Blake, Horford or Aaron Gordon acquired for very little (or with assets sent to us) who is an intriguing fit due to Siakam and OG being so good on D.
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Post#424 » by everdiso » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:09 pm

ok so where are we in terms of one-way and two-way deals exactly?

correct me if these are wrong.

One-way

Baynes - Len - Boucher
Siakam - S.Johnson - Brissett
Anunoby - Powell - Bembry
VanVleet - Davis - Thomas
Lowry --- Flynn -- McCaw

Two-way

Ellenson
A.Johnson
Watanabe
Watson
Harris

If i have that right, it sure seems to me like there's not enough flexibility at the back end of the roster, and I'd think that there's another shoe yet to drop this offseason.
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Post#425 » by everdiso » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:14 pm

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everdiso wrote:Net Rating

1. Gasol +10.1
2. Siakam +8.8
3. Davis +7.9
4. OG +6.2
5. Lowry +6.0
6. Boucher +5.8
7. VanVleet +4.8
8. Powell +4.6
9. RHJ +4.2
10. Thomas +4.2
11. Ibaka +3.1
12. McCaw +0.6


Gasol is a big loss, but Ibaka isn't, despite his insane shooting hot streak in the bubble.


Yeah, to me Boucher can definitely fill Ibaka's role, but while I don't hate the Baynes and Len signings, to me the only real possibility of filling Gasol's place for the playoffs is OG playing at the 5 and then his minutes at the 3/4 get taken by Davis (if he plays) or maybe Paul Watson (who I'm high on) or more likely we need to trade for another frontcourt player. Stanley + McCaw and a couple of 2nds for PJ Tucker or one second for Nemanja Bjelica is sort of interesting.

My guess is next summer Powell becomes a UFA and leaves for a big offer elsewhere and we strike out on a max guy and bring back Lowry for like 15M and spend most of the remaining 25M on one more player, whether that's an Oladipo and we play smallball, Gobert to give us a traditional center or someone like Drummond, Vucevic, Blake, Horford or Aaron Gordon acquired for very little (or with assets sent to us) who is an intriguing fit due to Siakam and OG being so good on D.


yeah I think we'll be seeing the small lineup more often this year - which imo is a very good thing, and something i wanted to see more of last year, but we didnt because gasol and ibaka needed to get their minutes.

next year? who knows. I think Masai would be very interested in Gobert at least. (as a plan B after Giannis of course).
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Post#426 » by Yeezus_ » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:48 pm

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ash_k wrote:if we are going to keep this roster then can Kyle accept the 6th man??? and aim for that the 6th man award.

FVV
Norman
OG
Siakiam
C ==> Baynes/Len/Boucher

it is time to have Norman as the Full-time SG (and though it worked last year just fine, I am not looking forward to seeing my starting backcourt at below 6'2 again)
The backcourt being 6'2 and under wasnt really a problem last season. Secondly, why would Lowry come off the bench when he's a better player?

It wasn't a problem because Hayward was injuried

Well good thing he isnt on the team anymore.

The Lowry/Fred backcourt also wouldnt be a problem against the Heat.
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Post#427 » by Ell Curry » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:41 pm

Unless one of Bembry or Johnson has a breakout season as an 8th man type, we really should be looking for an expiring or cheap forward who can actually hit a 3. Could even see parting with Matt Thomas for the right bench guy. Or just get someone like Kenrich Williams who can hit a 3 and play 10-15 minutes at the forward spot and you could get for a top 40 protected second probably.

Yeah, Bjelica for McCaw, Stanley and an unprotected 2nd would be lovely, but we're a bit low on 2nds with 3 being given away and none back.

I guess I really could see us dealing Powell for someone like Jaxson Hayes and say Melli's expiring contract, maybe we give up our first (top 20 protected) and get Cleveland's 2021 2nd rounder reverse protected top 35 but which will be in the low 30s for sure. We retain cap space and get a center moving forward and they have Adams anyways and will probably draft a stretch 5 at some point because they have so many picks and need shooting with Zion.
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Post#428 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:00 pm



TD looks ready.
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Post#429 » by polo007 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:31 am

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Post#430 » by casual_raps_fan » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:00 am

Ell Curry wrote:
everdiso wrote:Net Rating

1. Gasol +10.1
2. Siakam +8.8
3. Davis +7.9
4. OG +6.2
5. Lowry +6.0
6. Boucher +5.8
7. VanVleet +4.8
8. Powell +4.6
9. RHJ +4.2
10. Thomas +4.2
11. Ibaka +3.1
12. McCaw +0.6


Gasol is a big loss, but Ibaka isn't, despite his insane shooting hot streak in the bubble.


Yeah, to me Boucher can definitely fill Ibaka's role, but while I don't hate the Baynes and Len signings, to me the only real possibility of filling Gasol's place for the playoffs is OG playing at the 5 and then his minutes at the 3/4 get taken by Davis (if he plays) or maybe Paul Watson (who I'm high on) or more likely we need to trade for another frontcourt player. Stanley + McCaw and a couple of 2nds for PJ Tucker or one second for Nemanja Bjelica is sort of interesting.

My guess is next summer Powell becomes a UFA and leaves for a big offer elsewhere and we strike out on a max guy and bring back Lowry for like 15M and spend most of the remaining 25M on one more player, whether that's an Oladipo and we play smallball, Gobert to give us a traditional center or someone like Drummond, Vucevic, Blake, Horford or Aaron Gordon acquired for very little (or with assets sent to us) who is an intriguing fit due to Siakam and OG being so good on D.

Assuming that no big name free agents join us, this is the route I want to take. One of the Raptors biggest strength is their development program so we should be leveraging this as much as we can by collecting draft picks when we can. The great part of all of this is that we can still be competitive enough to be a second round playoff team while making moves for the future.
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Post#431 » by TheBoi10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:58 am

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Our bigs and wings are so trash :lol:
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Post#432 » by casual_raps_fan » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:34 am

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Our bigs and wings are so trash :lol:

Trash is harsh but aside from Siakam, OG, Norm, the list of wings and bigs leaves me scratching my head. We've been spoiled with a stacked front court the past 2 seasons.

At least our guard depth looks pretty good. We can get away with overplaying guards in the regular season.
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Post#433 » by Kordic27 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 10:56 pm

Did I miss the Masai and Bobby extensions? If not WHY ARE WE NOT FREAKING OUT OVER HERE?!?!
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Post#434 » by Kingsway_fan » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:12 pm

Let's hope for big improvement from Boucher...
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Post#435 » by polo007 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:06 am

Raptors Finalize 2020-2021 Training Camp Roster | Toronto Raptors

The Toronto Raptors have finalized their 2020-21 training camp roster after making the following signings. The roster currently stands at the maximum of 20 players.

· Restricted free agent forward Oshae Brissett and free agent centre Henry Ellenson have signed multi-year contracts.

· 2020 first round draft pick Malachi Flynn (29th overall) has signed a rookie scale contract.

· 2020 second round draft pick Jalen Harris (59th overall) has signed a two-way contract.

· Free agent forwards Alize Johnson (AL-uh-zay) and Yuta Watanabe (YOU-tuh wah-tuh-NAH-bay) have signed one-year Exhibit-10 contracts.

The team will hold individual workouts and training camp at Saint Leo University, located just a few miles north of Tampa, in the town of Saint Leo in Pasco County, from Dec. 1 – 11. All workouts and practices will be closed to the public. Additionally, no visitors will be permitted at the Marion Bowman Activities Center during this time. Daily player and coach media availabilities will be virtual, and there will be no in-person opportunities for b-roll or interviews.

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Post#436 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:07 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:Let's hope for big improvement from Boucher...


Yup. That's the player we need to be wary of this season. He's gonna get A LOT of minutes. If he doesn't show any signs of improvement, our frontcourt could be a nightmare. Most importantly, we'll need him to start hitting those 3s consistently. 30% isn't gonna cut it. Need him to be a minimum 35% shooter from behind the arc. Teams can afford to sag off him for now which limits his ability to space the floor.

And hopefully he got stronger over the off-season. Even like 5lbs of muscle would do wonders for this kid.
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Post#437 » by MixxSRC » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:19 am

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Post#438 » by polo007 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:51 am


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Post#439 » by arbsn » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:20 am

polo007 wrote:Image


:no: :no:

soo... is our team trash? (outside of Lowry of course)
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Post#440 » by everdiso » Wed Dec 2, 2020 4:09 am

arbsn wrote:
polo007 wrote:Image


:no: :no:

soo... is our team trash? (outside of Lowry of course)


2 all stars
1 borderline allstar
Fantastic depth
Fantastic coaching

= nope
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