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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#421 » by nivisi9 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:39 pm

our only hope for this core is drafting Malauch and him becoming WAY better then most think he will be.

We basically need to hit a homerun with this pick and thats probably our only hope that Malauch falls and Masai develops him into some type of baby/poor man's Embiid

which would still be high impact on both ends, all-star center at some point.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#422 » by Psubs » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:06 pm

nivisi9 wrote:our only hope for this core is drafting Malauch and him becoming WAY better then most think he will be.

We basically need to hit a homerun with this pick and thats probably our only hope that Malauch falls and Masai develops him into some type of baby/poor man's Embiid

which would still be high impact on both ends, all-star center at some point.


Or you draft Carter Bryant and you at least get Ochai Agbaji in Richard Jefferson's body.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#423 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:24 pm

Toronto isn't getting KD because it would be irresponsible to include #9 for 1 year of KD. This team needs young talent under control and we would need a centre at 9 cuz Poeltl is likely gone to PHX

And who knows what PHX is saying now with the Bane deal and Magic giving up 4 firsts and a swap. Insane.

We likely are getting 1 of KM or Queen and calling it a day
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#424 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:41 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Toronto isn't getting KD because it would be irresponsible to include #9 for 1 year of KD. This team needs young talent under control and we would need a centre at 9 cuz Poeltl is likely gone to PHX

And who knows what PHX is saying now with the Bane deal and Magic giving up 4 firsts and a swap. Insane.

We likely are getting 1 of KM or Queen and calling it a day


So does a tanking team like ours team draft for need or bpa with our top pick that we scarified the season for?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#425 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:43 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Toronto isn't getting KD because it would be irresponsible to include #9 for 1 year of KD. This team needs young talent under control and we would need a centre at 9 cuz Poeltl is likely gone to PHX

And who knows what PHX is saying now with the Bane deal and Magic giving up 4 firsts and a swap. Insane.

We likely are getting 1 of KM or Queen and calling it a day


So does a tanking team like ours team draft for need or bpa with our top pick that we scarified the season for?


You draft KM or Queen if all things are equal. No way do you pass up the best player available at #9 for a team in our position.

You can always trade Dick/Walter/Ochai for another teams young Center if we need to better construct our team.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#426 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:45 pm

Recent discussion around Giannis and KD show many here don't have patience for a rebuild. They're salivating at any recent rumor that can finish the rebuild process quickly.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#427 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:45 pm

I would go back to kissing Masai’s ass if he acquired KD and somehow turned us into legit contenders again.

I’d also be glad to be completely wrong in any pessimistic thinking.

I wanna see what BI’s got, I wanna see Scottie find his sweet spot and Poeltl is solid. I think Shead could be a good long term guard for us. I love Quickly shooting don’t like his def or durability. This draft should be bpa not roster - unless they just don’t believe this draft has any talent left in it at their pick
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#428 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:47 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Toronto isn't getting KD because it would be irresponsible to include #9 for 1 year of KD. This team needs young talent under control and we would need a centre at 9 cuz Poeltl is likely gone to PHX

And who knows what PHX is saying now with the Bane deal and Magic giving up 4 firsts and a swap. Insane.

We likely are getting 1 of KM or Queen and calling it a day


So does a tanking team like ours team draft for need or bpa with our top pick that we scarified the season for?


BPA 100%
And if they think all these guys after the top 2-3 guys are bunched in the same tier, they will lean fit/need because u r still taking more or less the BPA especially since there will be minutes open (for guys like KM or Queen
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#429 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:51 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Toronto isn't getting KD because it would be irresponsible to include #9 for 1 year of KD. This team needs young talent under control and we would need a centre at 9 cuz Poeltl is likely gone to PHX

And who knows what PHX is saying now with the Bane deal and Magic giving up 4 firsts and a swap. Insane.

We likely are getting 1 of KM or Queen and calling it a day


So does a tanking team like ours team draft for need or bpa with our top pick that we scarified the season for?


BPA 100%
And if they think all these guys after the top 2-3 guys are bunched in the same tier, they will lean fit/need because u r still taking more or less the BPA especially since there will be minutes open (for guys like KM or Queen


I may add Essenge too. Seems long
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#430 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:04 pm

Who is the top guy on your board that you would be upset if we passed on? The guy has to realistically be an option to fall (let’s eliminate Flagg, Harper, Edgecomb from this exercise as I can’t realistically see those guys falling).

I think for me it’s probably Bailey. I could understand why - but I think his talent is too good to pass up.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#431 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:07 pm

RapsFanInOhio wrote:Who is the top guy on your board that you would be upset if we passed on? The guy has to realistically be an option to fall (let’s eliminate Flagg, Harper, Edgecomb from this exercise as I can’t realistically see those guys falling).

I think for me it’s probably Bailey. I could understand why - but I think his talent is too good to pass up.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#432 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:22 pm

Tre Johnson, Bailey, Edgcombe
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#433 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:33 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Recent discussion around Giannis and KD show many here don't have patience for a rebuild. They're salivating at any recent rumor that can finish the rebuild process quickly.


Or they don't believe in the concept of a "rebuild".

It's funny you speak of patience when the majority of "tank and rebuild" posters said we should trade Gradey after his first summer league.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#434 » by WuTang_OG » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:02 pm

39 getting worse

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Post#435 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:04 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:KD lite? :lol:

His last season which was super efficient was better than any season Ingram has ever had. KD is also not a ball stopper. He plays really well off the ball and within the flow of an offense. If anything he should be ball stopping more because he’s so efficient. There’s no way you watch KD play and believe anything you wrote.

BI is not even Temu KD :lol:

Lol facts. I get the age concern but KDs showing no signs have slowing down. He’s also grown into being a solid defender.



There's a reason I called him KD lite as in he's not as good as KD. I don't understand why everyone is being obtuse and ridiculous. He is the end of shot clock guy this team needed, but then we got BI so they would have diminishing returns.

KD is not a playmaker, BI is a better passer. KD can not rebound at all and he's a decent defender because of his size. He's an all time great, but he's also 36 and declined a fair amount the last two years and further declines make him not worth his contract. Giving up assets for an end of shot clock guy who doesn't fit Darko's system means we are paying the most for a guy who would benefit other teams more.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#436 » by 720 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:10 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Recent discussion around Giannis and KD show many here don't have patience for a rebuild. They're salivating at any recent rumor that can finish the rebuild process quickly.


Or they don't believe in the concept of a "rebuild".

It's funny you speak of patience when the majority of "tank and rebuild" posters said we should trade Gradey after his first summer league.

Please provide the proof for this :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#437 » by DG88 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:13 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:39 getting worse

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A couple of international players have dropped out. I think they have until tomorrow to drop out of the draft.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#438 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:29 pm

720 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Recent discussion around Giannis and KD show many here don't have patience for a rebuild. They're salivating at any recent rumor that can finish the rebuild process quickly.


Or they don't believe in the concept of a "rebuild".

It's funny you speak of patience when the majority of "tank and rebuild" posters said we should trade Gradey after his first summer league.

Please provide the proof for this :lol:


That's way too much work, a lot of people wanted Gradey gone quickly...and many still do...yet when I suggest on reddit that Podz would have been the better pick I get downvoted into oblivion despite it being objectively correct.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#439 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:32 pm

720 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Recent discussion around Giannis and KD show many here don't have patience for a rebuild. They're salivating at any recent rumor that can finish the rebuild process quickly.


Or they don't believe in the concept of a "rebuild".

It's funny you speak of patience when the majority of "tank and rebuild" posters said we should trade Gradey after his first summer league.

Please provide the proof for this :lol:


We called it out in real time. You were one of the few tanker posters that was preaching patience.

I'm not going to do homework when you were in threads were we were pointing out the hilarity of the situation.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9 

Post#440 » by Lord_Zedd » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:21 pm

DG88 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:39 getting worse

Read on Twitter

A couple of international players have dropped out. I think they have until tomorrow to drop out of the draft.


At this rate, I'd be surprised if there's even a top 100 prospect list for this year's draft.

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