Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[PushDaRock]

it's possible they feel they can get a backup center at 11 (like queen) so they are after simons or jerami grant.

Grant was terrible last season and has 3 years left on his deal, they would need to attach draft capital just to get rid of him. We wouldn't take this on while we are trying to start winning again.

Simons I could see as a possibility because he provides volume 3 point shooting and can play both guard spots. If he takes the backup 1 mins, it also clears a bit of our log jam at the 2 we have now. This feels more like a trade that happens in season though after seeing if RJ can fit into what we are doing.

[WuTang_CMB]

Another reason why Masai is doing this, is to raise the floor of all these young players are on our squad, including Scottie.

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[djsunyc]

POR wants to get off Grant's contract
I'll do it if they add Clingan

ya, that Grant contract is going to be almost impossible to move, especially with him coming off a season where he shot 37% from the field.

Still has 3 more years. 32M this coming season, then 34M, then a 36M player option which he will most certainly pick-up.

it's only 1 more year than RJ if grant picks up his PO. he's a really good 3 point shooter and we need that from the front court. and would probably get much better looks under darko's offense.

i would make the deal, even if it's just rj for grant.

with that said, grant makes $5 mil more/year so we'd have to add a player to offset the salary for our tax purposes or we'd need some draft compensation - even if it's a few 2nds.

[Pointgod]

maybe we move back with portland or get out of it completely
I bet TOR wants clingan , since we were super high on him last yr

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Not sure it changes either team much, if at all, but I have had a feeling the Raps are after Simons.

If you were going to pay Simons, why not just pay RJ? Both good scorers, but bad defenders.

We might see Simons as an expiring contract that allows us to bring back Agbaji. Portland maybe does it to move up, clear the PG log jam and get a back up 2/3.

[Jerry Lucas]

Any RJ trade with one of those teams probably involves expirings as the main salary filler coming back, except in the case of Brooklyn where Cam Johnson or Nic Claxton could be an appealing non-expiring salary filler to the Raptors, and the Cavs for obvious reasons.

They ideally want to move RJ for future tax flexibility, as evidenced by them preferring to move RJ to the Pelicans in the Ingram deal instead of the expirings they actually gave up as the main salary filler.

[Pointgod]

Another reason why Masai is doing this, is to raise the floor of all these young players are on our squad, including Scottie.

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Why are we wasting time with this?

[WuTang_CMB]

Any RJ trade with one of those teams probably involves expirings as the main salary filler coming back, except in the case of Brooklyn where Cam Johnson or Nic Claxton could be an appealing non-expiring salary filler to the Raptors. They ideally want to move RJ for future tax flexibility, as evidenced by them preferring to move RJ to the Pelicans in the Ingram deal instead of the expirings they actually gave up as the main salary filler.

Ayton back with KD

[djsunyc]

Another reason why Masai is doing this, is to raise the floor of all these young players are on our squad, including Scottie.

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Why are we wasting time with this?

if a trade with us was going to happen with KD, i bet it already would've went down. this is all just stuff to talk about, nothing more. good for nba media and for us as fans - otherwise it would be boring times around here lol.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I think one objective our front office may have in mind is getting rid of RJ's (and potentially Yak's) salary obligations in 26-27. That's $30-49M in capspace freed. If we can trade for a talented expiring player, we'll do that, giving us the ability to pivot easily if things aren't working out.

[djsunyc]

Any RJ trade with one of those teams probably involves expirings as the main salary filler coming back, except in the case of Brooklyn where Cam Johnson or Nic Claxton could be an appealing non-expiring salary filler to the Raptors. They ideally want to move RJ for future tax flexibility, as evidenced by them preferring to move RJ to the Pelicans in the Ingram deal instead of the expirings they actually gave up as the main salary filler.

Ayton back with KD

that would be some series of events. we trade iq + rj + yak + picks and end up with an expiring kd and ayton? what an overhaul. if both walked, we're basically at ground zero with scottie, ingram and some kids under contract in 26/27.

[RaptorLakerJay]

We're not trading the 9th pick and we're not pursuing Morant. Windhorst has zero sources from the Raptors because we generally don't leak anything.

Poeltl, RJ, Agbaji and our 2026 1st could be used in a potential Durant trade. Those three players will become much more expend soon and are probably not in management's long term plans.

Windhorst was the main one all over Kawhi to Raptors in 2018. I think he has good intel when it comes to Raptors.

Here's an article where Windy said Raptors were in driving seat for Kawhi over other teams days before it happened. It was basically Windy and Tim Bontemps. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/report-raptors-made-compelling-offer-kawhi-leonard-011059484.html

[LoveMyRaps]

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[OakleyDokely]

POR wants to get off Grant's contract
I'll do it if they add Clingan

ya, that Grant contract is going to be almost impossible to move, especially with him coming off a season where he shot 37% from the field.

Still has 3 more years. 32M this coming season, then 34M, then a 36M player option which he will most certainly pick-up.

it's only 1 more year than RJ if grant picks up his PO. he's a really good 3 point shooter and we need that from the front court. and would probably get much better looks under darko's offense.

i would make the deal, even if it's just rj for grant.

with that said, grant makes $5 mil more/year so we'd have to add a player to offset the salary for our tax purposes or we'd need some draft compensation - even if it's a few 2nds.

I'd need a solid prospect or a pick to take on that additional year.

RJ will be easy to trade soon, especially next season as an expiring.

[dTox]

Not the least bit excited about this one, I am a big fan of KD, but he's at a point in his career where he needs to be the 2nd option on a contending team in order to have a realistic shot at a championship

[Rapsfan07]

Don't think we should be touching Durant right now.

He's quite a bit older than our main pieces and we'd have to give up a young, controllable asset in #9 while our team is set to get more expensive. He also has only one year left on his deal.

Not surprising we're looking at moving these three - this team is expensive and Barnes and Ingram are our best players.

[CoinTossRoss31]

Everyone keeps mentioning Clingan but I wonder if we are looking at Sharpe

Some sort of #9 + RJ for #11 + Sharpe + Filler

Could also be us downgrading the pick to pick up assets to then flip the lesser pick + Poetl into KD

[djsunyc]

what if this is how it turns out - we trade IQ, rj, yak + #9 (AND NO FUTURE FIRSTS) and end up with KD and ayton. sign someone like tyus jones in free agency for a 1 year deal.

it's an all in move at the expense of #9 this year. but with KD and ayton expiring, it would also be a totally clean cap sheet in 26/27 with only scottie + BI as big deals and all our future 1sts.

would you be ok with that?

[niQ]

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We likely have the best offer, but they just want us to up the other offers.

[ArthurVandelay]

Ahhhh man. I'm just waiting for the Portland fan to show up. I forget his handle, but he rejects everything.

As for Sharpe or Clingan. I'm pretty sure the Blazers are very high on those guys. I'd be shocked if they are leaving.

[WuTang_CMB]

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