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Re: Former Raptor discussion thread 2.0 

Post#441 » by Kingsway_fan » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:09 pm

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Kingsway_fan wrote:What's going on with griz???

Jv?? Numbers look bad... Bruno barely getting minutes..


They've been using Jonas as just a floor spacer, and the same things that was happening here and repeating there. He'll ask for the ball in the post and get ignored. His defense also hasn't improved. Unfortunate, thought he'd break out.

Bruno they're using as a backup C, which I think is a mistake. He's been bad at catching passes and lobs.


Hope masai can scoop up bruno in the off season... he would be excellent backup for pascal....
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Post#442 » by raptor jesus » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:12 pm

Tval6ixball wrote:Lou will on raptor teammates stopping him from retiring and also briefly talks about why the Raptors let him go


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Meh, I'd imagine it had more to do with his limitations on the court at the time. He was an awful defender, and teams that didn't reach and forced him to his right could totally take him out of a game, as we saw the Wizards do in the playoffs.
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Post#443 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:20 am

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Never thought id see the day where Bruno is consistently getting serious Highlight Reels now. He truly has made it.

Good for him, maybe the trade actually lit a fire under his butt, or maybe the Raptors were impatient with him, who knows.

Bruno was considered Masai's failed Pick, but Bruno is doing well in Memphis, so I guess Masai's eye for Players is still great.


Let’s actually look at some facts here first. Memphis is odds on favourite for the worst team in their conference and Bruno isn’t even in their regular rotation. He’s played 42 minutes in 4 games, got DNP-CD in 2 others and currently has a TS% of 38.2%.

Yes he’s finally made an NBA roster after years in the g league but he’s still not a useful NBA player in what is now season #6. Nothing has changed, this is still Masai’s worst move and a failed pick.


He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.
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Re: Former Raptor discussion thread 2.0 

Post#444 » by Kabookalu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:28 am

As one of his biggest fans, I'm confident in saying that Bruno's ceiling is a 7th/8th man at best. He's been awful at catching interior passes and alley oop lobs. He had one really nice one against Houston, but fumbled every other one that was thrown to him. Maybe he improves this, but I feel like this is a skill that you have coming into the league or you don't (Biyombo is a prime example, I really thought through experience he'd naturally develop it, but hasn't). As a 4/5 it's just not acceptable, a big man unable to catch passes is no different than a point guard that can't shoot. He's at his best spacing the floor parking himself beyond the 3 point line, though his inability to be a passing target limits his portability significantly.

I'll still gas him up every time I can :nod:
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Re: Former Raptor discussion thread 2.0 

Post#445 » by The_Hater » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:01 pm

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The_Hater wrote:
Bankai wrote:Never thought id see the day where Bruno is consistently getting serious Highlight Reels now. He truly has made it.

Good for him, maybe the trade actually lit a fire under his butt, or maybe the Raptors were impatient with him, who knows.

Bruno was considered Masai's failed Pick, but Bruno is doing well in Memphis, so I guess Masai's eye for Players is still great.


Let’s actually look at some facts here first. Memphis is odds on favourite for the worst team in their conference and Bruno isn’t even in their regular rotation. He’s played 42 minutes in 4 games, got DNP-CD in 2 others and currently has a TS% of 38.2%.

Yes he’s finally made an NBA roster after years in the g league but he’s still not a useful NBA player in what is now season #6. Nothing has changed, this is still Masai’s worst move and a failed pick.


He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


He’s still not a rotation player while playing for a bottom feeder in year #6.

I definitely understand why Masai was intrigued with the guy but he’s a fringe NBA player at best.
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Post#447 » by bargs4mvp » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:27 am

Dwayne Casey and the pistons look tragic. Not sure how this guy was known as a defensive guru


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Post#448 » by Kingsway_fan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:56 pm

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Nice pic.. two great former raptors... nothing but good things to say about them personally...but glad for the trades.... esp kawhi one..
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Post#449 » by dontsettle4less » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:44 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Bankai wrote:Never thought id see the day where Bruno is consistently getting serious Highlight Reels now. He truly has made it.

Good for him, maybe the trade actually lit a fire under his butt, or maybe the Raptors were impatient with him, who knows.

Bruno was considered Masai's failed Pick, but Bruno is doing well in Memphis, so I guess Masai's eye for Players is still great.


Let’s actually look at some facts here first. Memphis is odds on favourite for the worst team in their conference and Bruno isn’t even in their regular rotation. He’s played 42 minutes in 4 games, got DNP-CD in 2 others and currently has a TS% of 38.2%.

Yes he’s finally made an NBA roster after years in the g league but he’s still not a useful NBA player in what is now season #6. Nothing has changed, this is still Masai’s worst move and a failed pick.


He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"
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Post#450 » by sbsat » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:45 pm

dontsettle4less wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Let’s actually look at some facts here first. Memphis is odds on favourite for the worst team in their conference and Bruno isn’t even in their regular rotation. He’s played 42 minutes in 4 games, got DNP-CD in 2 others and currently has a TS% of 38.2%.

Yes he’s finally made an NBA roster after years in the g league but he’s still not a useful NBA player in what is now season #6. Nothing has changed, this is still Masai’s worst move and a failed pick.


He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"


why is bruno so highly regarded on here? what are you all watching exactly? He's 6 years in, an average to good defensive player and a below average offensive threat. Honestly if he's in the league 2 years from now, I will be very surprised.
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Post#451 » by The_Hater » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:30 pm

dontsettle4less wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Let’s actually look at some facts here first. Memphis is odds on favourite for the worst team in their conference and Bruno isn’t even in their regular rotation. He’s played 42 minutes in 4 games, got DNP-CD in 2 others and currently has a TS% of 38.2%.

Yes he’s finally made an NBA roster after years in the g league but he’s still not a useful NBA player in what is now season #6. Nothing has changed, this is still Masai’s worst move and a failed pick.


He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"


Tons of players who are great athletes and have great bodies never become stars or even viable NBA players. Lacking a killer instinct or hard work is sometimes to blame, and sometimes it’s an underdeveloped skill set but quite often the main reason for failure is they have terrible Bball IQ’s and poor instincts, and Bruno is near the bottom of the league in both of those measures IMO.
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Post#452 » by The_Hater » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:36 pm

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dontsettle4less wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"


why is bruno so highly regarded on here? what are you all watching exactly? He's 6 years in, an average to good defensive player and a below average offensive threat. Honestly if he's in the league 2 years from now, I will be very surprised.


He’s not highly regarded by most, there are just a few that still hang on to the vision they had for the guy at the 2013 draft. Bargnani had some people hanging on for 7-8 years.

At least Bruno exceeded my expectations, I predicted he would be out of the league and never seen again after year 4.
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Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.


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Post#453 » by dontsettle4less » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm

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dontsettle4less wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"


why is bruno so highly regarded on here? what are you all watching exactly? He's 6 years in, an average to good defensive player and a below average offensive threat. Honestly if he's in the league 2 years from now, I will be very surprised.


Might just be that we all knew he was coming in highly raw and we just are pulling for him to succeed as he was a high risk player but one who was so innocent coming in that we'd all hoped he would blossom into what masai initially saw.
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Post#454 » by dontsettle4less » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:26 pm

The_Hater wrote:
dontsettle4less wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
He only has a bad TS% Because he's missing his threes, and it's very early. Actually if there's something I"m fairly confident about, is that he can hit 30-33% from three at a minimum. I think he's a rotational player. In fact if you look at his shot breakdown this year, he's looking to score at the rim way more, and finishing inside the arc well. He just needs to round it out with a passable outside shot, which I believe is already somewhat developed and in his arsenal. My post is over, and though we disagree, I wish you a good day.

Edit: also his FT% for a player with center length is excellent. So that boosts up his offensive efficiency.


Man if Bruno ever develops that killer instinct, he has all the tools to truly be a star. His body is so freakishly long, imagine him playing along OG, Siakham, Boucher. haha. That would be so long - Jokic "No Homo"


Tons of players who are great athletes and have great bodies never become stars or even viable NBA players. Lacking a killer instinct or hard work is sometimes to blame, and sometimes it’s an underdeveloped skill set but quite often the main reason for failure is they have terrible Bball IQ’s and poor instincts, and Bruno is near the bottom of the league in both of those measures IMO.


I appreciate your input. Thank you. :)
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Post#455 » by Kabookalu » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:34 am

Hoping Bruno succeeds is a meme at this point, but there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't get people who are opposed to cheering for him, as if we're only required to root for players who will be stars. Considering that he entered the league arguably the worst player to ever exist, seeing how far he's come is fun. There's no downside in wanting to see him do well.

Given his length and mobility it's intriguing as hell just watching him play. His long arms by themselves make him a positive defender. If he were given a more "normal" 7'2 or 7'3 wingspan, it significantly reduces his impact and exposes his lack of basketball IQ. Players always second guess making passes around him in fear it'll get picked off. If his awareness was even average that would be a great rotation player.




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Post#456 » by bluerap23 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:57 am

Bruno has no motor.
It’s pretty crazy that none of the ex-raptors look as good as they did in our system. The only exception I guess was TRoss last year in his contract year. But he has returned to TRash
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Post#457 » by Kinger95 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:13 am

Who do we hate more the clippers or the nets?

I’d lean towards the clippers just because the nets suffered pretty bad the last few years after giving up all them 1sts lol
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Post#458 » by Bankai » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:34 pm

Hypothetically, If the Raptors had Terrence Ross over Norman Powell (traded for Ibaka) would the Raptors be better or worse? Would they still have won the Title?
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Post#459 » by Ackshun » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:54 pm

Watching the SAC BOS game. Didn't realize Christie was announcer
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Post#460 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:23 am

Bruno may be 6yrs in, but come on guys, you can't really count it like that. His first few years were write-offs from the get go. He's always gonna be on someone's roster because of his physical attributes and the fact that he can hit the NBA 3. He blks shots too.

How many players from Brunos draft class r still in the league, kudos to him.
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