2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[alpngso]

Yeah that makes absolutely no sense, the difference is like nothing. The 4th pick makes 1.3m more, 3rd pick about 2m more and the 2nd pick about 3m more.

His assumption is that Sarr is the only one of the top six to be a real deal - not just another Skal Laboussiere (we'll see) - and that 2-6 are relatively interchangeable.

So in that light, wouldn't we rather pay one of those guys a #6 salary (6.25 mill) rather than a #2 salary (9.4 mill). If Raps are operating under the cap this summer (letting Gary and BB walk), then that 3+ mill can make a difference.

Having your pick out of the bunch is still worth more than the miniscule savings of a potential 3m. Your draft board would need to have picks 2-6 as literally dead even as well as not having a positional preference at all for the savings to factor in at all. That's just not going to be the case for literally any team though.

Not sure how Raps FO evaluate this draft but I think 2-10 is basically in the same tier in this draft, hence my reasoning

[Raptorfan2012]

This place will go bananas if SAS get the pick.

Meh, from the way I have been using Tankathon, almost certain the pick is going to the Spurs. My top outcomes seems to be always 1,4, 7, or 8.

[Potential]

This place will go bananas if SAS get the pick.

Meh, from the way I have been using Tankathon, almost certain the pick is going to the Spurs. My top outcomes seems to be always 1,4, 7, or 8.

Same. Either we move up to the top 5 or concede

[Raptorfan2012]

Im starting to love Yves Missi with our Indiana pick if hez there


late bloomer, good size and movement, good wingspan

I want a guard like Collier that almost has it together and throw him in our Gleague. If we can develop a two way half court creator (ideally 6'7+) it would make the SL way better. Missi is someone I'd take at 31st. He is similar to Koloko in several ways.

The closest player to that two way half court creator in this draft is Ron Holland…. Not much to pick from this time around unfortunately

[JRoy]

This place will go bananas if SAS get the pick.

Meh, from the way I have been using Tankathon, almost certain the pick is going to the Spurs. My top outcomes seems to be always 1,4, 7, or 8.

Same. Either we move up to the top 5 or concede

Seems better for mental health to consider the IND pick and rejoice if TOR keeps the pick.

[PushDaRock]

His assumption is that Sarr is the only one of the top six to be a real deal - not just another Skal Laboussiere (we'll see) - and that 2-6 are relatively interchangeable.

So in that light, wouldn't we rather pay one of those guys a #6 salary (6.25 mill) rather than a #2 salary (9.4 mill). If Raps are operating under the cap this summer (letting Gary and BB walk), then that 3+ mill can make a difference.

Having your pick out of the bunch is still worth more than the miniscule savings of a potential 3m. Your draft board would need to have picks 2-6 as literally dead even as well as not having a positional preference at all for the savings to factor in at all. That's just not going to be the case for literally any team though.

Not sure how Raps FO evaluate this draft but I think 2-10 is basically in the same tier in this draft, hence my reasoning

Even if they were all on the same tier, they're still not all the exact same players. This team desperately still needs to add shooting. So, let's say there's a non shooting 4 and a big wing that can shoot 3's available that they rank in the exact same tier, it would seem very likely they would opt for the big wing that can shoot 3's here. Not having your pick of these players just to save a tiny bit of money makes little sense.

[Thaddy]

Im starting to love Yves Missi with our Indiana pick if hez there


late bloomer, good size and movement, good wingspan

I want a guard like Collier that almost has it together and throw him in our Gleague. If we can develop a two way half court creator (ideally 6'7+) it would make the SL way better. Missi is someone I'd take at 31st. He is similar to Koloko in several ways.

The closest player to that two way half court creator in this draft is Ron Holland…. Not much to pick from this time around unfortunately

I would go for him at 6th but his workouts will be good and he'll be top 4 when the time comes.

[Thaddy]

Sarr
Reed
Topic
Risacher
Castle

We take Holland. I would rather bet on him figuring out how to shoot and use him as a defensive player to start out. He can create his own looks and we need half court creators.

At 17 I'd go for Filipowski he's a 7 footer that has range. I'd be surprised if he's still available.

31 I'm taking a flyer on Bronny James. At worst he's a great guard defender that can hit the three. He shot well in high school and he had a serious health problem. Building a relationship with Lebron isn't bad for our franchise either.

I'd invest in this draft and plan for 1-2 of these guys to pan out by the end of their rookie contract.

[Jstock12]

31 I'm taking a flyer on Bronny James. At worst he's a great guard defender that can hit the three. He shot well in high school and he had a serious health problem. Building a relationship with Lebron isn't bad for our franchise either.

I wouldn't say that shooting 33% against future fast food or office workers is all that great. Combine that with his ~60% FT% both in highschool and college, and I'm starting to seriously question his shooting potential. He may have been a good defender against people who might not even end up being professional basketball players, but the NBA is a completely different beast and saying that he's at worst a great guard defender feels overly optimistic to me. But I agree in the sense that if there is one quality that Bronny can use to stay in the league, developing into a good defender would be the most realistic one.

That said, if he wasn't LeBron's son, we wouldn't even be talking about him as a draft target.

[Ell Curry]

Edwards being 44th on Pelton's stats translation makes me think he might make sense with our #31 pick. We've seen Calipari depress players' numbers and he shot it quite well for a freshman (77% FT, 36.5% from 3 on 3 attempts a game, 45% on long 2s). Was a top 5 pick going into the year.

It's mostly 2 guards next year in the draft after Bailey and Flagg, so if we do give up the pick this year I think we can sort of very lightly pencil in this sort of thing:

Poeltl/______
Barnes/Olynyk
Barrett/_____
2025/Dick
Quickley/_____

so grabbing another SF, a big and a PG makes sense as our 3 picks in terms of having clean paths to playing time for the young guys.

[ArthurVandelay]

Meh, from the way I have been using Tankathon, almost certain the pick is going to the Spurs. My top outcomes seems to be always 1,4, 7, or 8.

Same. Either we move up to the top 5 or concede

Seems better for mental health to consider the IND pick and rejoice if TOR keeps the pick.

Yeah I don’t think Sarr is falling to 18ish

lol

[aminiaturebuddha]

One of my favourites for that Pacers pick is DaRon Holmes. I've seen some people put him in the range of consideration for the Pistons pick, but I really don't think he'll last that long.

I just think he can do a lot of things well, has no glaring weaknesses, and is almost guaranteed to be a rotational contributor at the NBA level. Right now he's probably my second choice at the Pacers pick behind Tristan da Silva unless someone falls unexpectedly.

And watching some NBA games over the past week an interesting comp for Holmes came to mind - Naz Reid. No comps are perfect, but I think it's pretty close. They're both hardworking players who give strong effort on defence and the boards, even if they're slightly undersized compared to some centers. And they both have a diverse skill set on offence that means they can be played at 4 or 5. And if anything, Holmes may end up being an even better passer.

What do others think of that comp?

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Rapsfan07]

How would everyone rank these guards

Collier, McCain, Carter, Sheppard, Dillingham, Topic

Good question.

Dillingham
McCain
Sheppard
Carter
Collier

Honestly, I'd be elated if we drafted any of these guys.

Dillingham
Carter
Topic
Sheppard
McCain
Collier

[Prestige]

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If Dink Pate is allowed into the draft, how does that shake things up? Is he a top-10 pick, and would the Raptors be interested in drafting him?

[Psubs]

One of my favourites for that Pacers pick is DaRon Holmes. I've seen some people put him in the range of consideration for the Pistons pick, but I really don't think he'll last that long.

I just think he can do a lot of things well, has no glaring weaknesses, and is almost guaranteed to be a rotational contributor at the NBA level. Right now he's probably my second choice at the Pacers pick behind Tristan da Silva unless someone falls unexpectedly.

And watching some NBA games over the past week an interesting comp for Holmes came to mind - Naz Reid. No comps are perfect, but I think it's pretty close. They're both hardworking players who give strong effort on defence and the boards, even if they're slightly undersized compared to some centers. And they both have a diverse skill set on offence that means they can be played at 4 or 5. And if anything, Holmes may end up being an even better passer.

What do others think of that comp?

What about Richaun Holmes comp. Ugh another same name comp.

[manjusaka]

Meh, from the way I have been using Tankathon, almost certain the pick is going to the Spurs. My top outcomes seems to be always 1,4, 7, or 8.

Same. Either we move up to the top 5 or concede

Seems better for mental health to consider the IND pick and rejoice if TOR keeps the pick.

I am probably in the minority, I don’t mind if we convey the pick this year and end the saga.

[Psubs]

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If Dink Pate is allowed into the draft, how does that shake things up? Is he a top-10 pick, and would the Raptors be interested in drafting him?

Doesn't he remind people of Grant Hill? I guess that's his ceiling. His shooting %'s are bad but form looks decent.

Is he GG Jackson with more handles and play-making?

[Bruin]

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[grant101]

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If Dink Pate is allowed into the draft, how does that shake things up? Is he a top-10 pick, and would the Raptors be interested in drafting him?

These types of big play-makers are super enticing. You can also project a lot onto Pate given his age. I would strongly consider him with the Pacers pick, but would feel much less queasy about it if we manage to keep our own pick. The bust potential is there with Pate given his meh athleticism and that fact that there is so little data on him (and that the data that is there needs to be considered in light of the fact that he was 17 and injured for much of the year).