Elephant in the room but isn't Barnes suppose to be getting better?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

You're joking, right? The clock has barely started.

Scottie at 22: "The clock has barely started"
Scottie at 24: "The clock has barely started"
Scottie at 26: "The clock has barely started"

Barnes isn't a bust but he isn't a superstar worth the max either. Anyone expecting him to improve his career numbers is misguided. What you see is what you're going to get for the rest of his max contract. I have a strong doubt he'll get more money in the future consider how hard he flopped as the number 1 option this year. This was supposed to be a career year with free reign, and he fell flat on his face. His handle, shooting, and other guard skills are the exact same as when he first entered the league.

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

[HangTime]

Scottie at 22: "The clock has barely started"
Scottie at 24: "The clock has barely started"
Scottie at 26: "The clock has barely started"

Barnes isn't a bust but he isn't a superstar worth the max either. Anyone expecting him to improve his career numbers is misguided. What you see is what you're going to get for the rest of his max contract. I have a strong doubt he'll get more money in the future consider how hard he flopped as the number 1 option this year. This was supposed to be a career year with free reign, and he fell flat on his face. His handle, shooting, and other guard skills are the exact same as when he first entered the league.

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Barnes isn't a bust but he isn't a superstar worth the max either. Anyone expecting him to improve his career numbers is misguided. What you see is what you're going to get for the rest of his max contract. I have a strong doubt he'll get more money in the future consider how hard he flopped as the number 1 option this year. This was supposed to be a career year with free reign, and he fell flat on his face. His handle, shooting, and other guard skills are the exact same as when he first entered the league.

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

No, their goal is to turn him into a P&R ballhandler and perimeter scorer.

[tsherkin]

That was Pascal’s 2nd season after starting 38 games as a rookie. He received over 20mpg and shot 22% from 3.

Oh yes, that's true. This is Scottie's age-23 season, isn't it?

The story doesn't much change. Pascal played 20.7 mpg. Demar and Lowry were leading the way. Ibaka and Jonas were still there. They didn't need him to score a buch.

The point stands - these are still early days for Scottie.

He is 4 years in with Scottie. He isn't getting more athletic, obviously. And while he may slowly, incrementally improve in some areas, we already know that he isn't going to be an elite scorer. He doesn't have a general trend of improvement the way other guys have shown. Waiting for him to become that is folly, and anyone sane realizes that. That doesn't mean he can't be useful to us, but we do need to pivot away from the idea that he's going to be a consequential volume scorer for us.

[ConSarnit]

He’s better on offense than Derozan was at same age, and light years better on defense. Lite my ass.

Scottie is still on his rookie contract, apparently it’s easy to forget that.

Debatable. He’s definitely a better passer but his efficiency is terrible compared to the league average. Demar was slightly worse than the league average in his 4th year and was better at drawing fouls. In his 4th year Demar was still in the top half (barely) for high usage scorers in terms of efficiency. Barnes is in the bottom 3.

People need to realize how damaging having 25% of your scoring come from 53 TS% is. Barnes is one of the worst high usage scorers in the entire league.

There’s every reason to think Scottie’s efficiency will improve as the team around him improves, as it will next year.

People also need to remember how important it is to have all-nba calibre defensive players.

There are legit reasons to be concerned about his scoring efficiency going forward. He has been below average in TS% for every year. Those include years where he has played with better players. The only time where his efficiency was good was during what now looks to be an unsustainable hot shooting stretch from 3 (the first 2 months of last year). The only area in which he has been respectable as a scorer this year has been from midrange and even that has fallen off as this year has progressed.

Barnes has shown very little across almost every scoring type. You’d expect to see some progress through 4 years and it hasn’t been there. We’ve all been pleased with his defensive progress but defensive PF’s who can’t shoot or score efficiently aren’t worth the max. His playmaking (while good) is not enough to make up for the current gaps in his scoring/shooting. If he were on another team we would without question be calling him a bad contract. Where are the areas he’s going to (or has already) improved that’s going to make him worth his contract? If you think he’s going to get better which areas is it going to be in because currently there isn’t much to support the idea of guranteed improvement. Most guys have a clear cut area you can count on to conpensate for slower development in other areas. What is Barnes “bread and butter”?

I hope Barnes develops but it’s starting to become a real concern that he has no real go-to moves or ways to consistently score efficiently. It’s worrying.

[ConSarnit]

Barnes isn't a bust but he isn't a superstar worth the max either. Anyone expecting him to improve his career numbers is misguided. What you see is what you're going to get for the rest of his max contract. I have a strong doubt he'll get more money in the future consider how hard he flopped as the number 1 option this year. This was supposed to be a career year with free reign, and he fell flat on his face. His handle, shooting, and other guard skills are the exact same as when he first entered the league.

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

Barnes scores ok around the basket. He shoots 63% within 5ft which is an ok number for a PF. He doesn’t do a good job drawing fouls. His post-up numbers are bad.

His rim stuff is his best stuff and even that’s not great.

You keep saying we’ve put him in bad spots (apparently for years now) yet we have 1000’s of possessions of evidence that he’s not really good any anything. Barnes hasn’t been able to do it regardless of role or who he’s been on the floor with.

If you dug into the numbers at all you would see that it’s bad. We should not be looking at “who fits with Barnes” because he is part of the problem. He can’t shoot at all and that hurts the players he plays with as much as you believe his teammates are hurting his game. He needs to be held accountable as much as his teammates.

[Indeed]

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

No, their goal is to turn him into a P&R ballhandler and perimeter scorer.

Or initially, both the team and Barnes to play on the perimeter. Meanwhile, for Barnes to play close to the basket, he got no moves.

It is sad that over last 3 years, his handle nor shooting is enough to be a perimeter scorer, where Siakam already have a guard handle at the very least around this age. Now for Barnes to improve his footwork to play as a big, that would be another few years, where Siakam is already near elite at this stage.

When looking at DeRozan and Siakam, their work ethic is simply much better, which is the reason I personally don't see Barnes reaching DeRozan or Siakam level. Barnes should have a much better handle and moves at this point, but really not just baby step on everything.

[SkywalkerAC]

Debatable. He’s definitely a better passer but his efficiency is terrible compared to the league average. Demar was slightly worse than the league average in his 4th year and was better at drawing fouls. In his 4th year Demar was still in the top half (barely) for high usage scorers in terms of efficiency. Barnes is in the bottom 3.

People need to realize how damaging having 25% of your scoring come from 53 TS% is. Barnes is one of the worst high usage scorers in the entire league.

There’s every reason to think Scottie’s efficiency will improve as the team around him improves, as it will next year.

People also need to remember how important it is to have all-nba calibre defensive players.

There are legit reasons to be concerned about his scoring efficiency going forward. He has been below average in TS% for every year. Those include years where he has played with better players. The only time where his efficiency was good was during what now looks to be an unsustainable hot shooting stretch from 3 (the first 2 months of last year). The only area in which he has been respectable as a scorer this year has been from midrange and even that has fallen off as this year has progressed.

Barnes has shown very little across almost every scoring type. You’d expect to see some progress through 4 years and it hasn’t been there. We’ve all been pleased with his defensive progress but defensive PF’s who can’t shoot or score efficiently aren’t worth the max. His playmaking (while good) is not enough to make up for the current gaps in his scoring/shooting. If he were on another team we would without question be calling him a bad contract. Where are the areas he’s going to (or has already) improved that’s going to make him worth his contract? If you think he’s going to get better which areas is it going to be in because currently there isn’t much to support the idea of guranteed improvement. Most guys have a clear cut area you can count on to conpensate for slower development in other areas. What is Barnes “bread and butter”?

I hope Barnes develops but it’s starting to become a real concern that he has no real go-to moves or ways to consistently score efficiently. It’s worrying.

His bread and butter is a being a triple-double threat with world class defense. You act like he’s not averaging 20/8/6 with 3 stocks - any kind of tick upwards and he’s going to be well worth his next contract. Again Pascal was averaging 7.5 ppg at Scottie’s age, if he had a great handle it wasn’t really worth a damn.

His expected area of improvement is virtually every area of the court as he puts together an arsenal of moves as DeMar did over the same section of his career, and ups his 3 point percentage - he shot 34% last year and can/should surpass that as early as next season.

Having a true blue shotmaker in Ingram is going to make life that much easier for Scottie, he doesn’t have to be an elite scorer, and dollars to donuts he’ll benefit from playing next to one and with a better team overall.

Maybe most importantly he’s clearly grown into the role of a vocal leader. He needs to up his efficiency, but he sure looks and feels like an allstar to me. I’m confident he will be one again when the team gets back to playoff position.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Precisely. All the while he could have been working on improving his closer to the basket game and hasn't. It's not a good situation.

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

Barnes scores ok around the basket. He shoots 63% within 5ft which is an ok number for a PF. He doesn’t do a good job drawing fouls. His post-up numbers are bad.

His rim stuff is his best stuff and even that’s not great.

You keep saying we’ve put him in bad spots (apparently for years now) yet we have 1000’s of possessions of evidence that he’s not really good any anything. Barnes hasn’t been able to do it regardless of role or who he’s been on the floor with.

If you dug into the numbers at all you would see that it’s bad. We should not be looking at “who fits with Barnes” because he is part of the problem. He can’t shoot at all and that hurts the players he plays with as much as you believe his teammates are hurting his game. He needs to be held accountable as much as his teammates.

Barnes hasn't been >50th percentile PPP posting up a single year and his touch on layups and closer to the hole isn't great for a guy who is probably starting to max his FTr out. Good for him getting it up but he has had to be prodded to pound the rock and be more physical his entire career and it's unfortunate. If they had gotten him to focus on his inside game since day 1 I bet you the raw numbers would be a lot more encouraging by now. Instead they have stagnated and their experiment of turning him into a 3 level scorer hasn't really shown any signs that it will work out - he'll be 24 soon.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Again, You guys don't see what's going on.

Darko has been putting Scottie in beyond difficult situations, if you're paying attention, you'd see it.

Time to time you'll see an "old, closer to basket game" from Scottie, which is something we know he can do.

The goal of this season, is to see who can fit with Scottie.

If you don't see it, I really don't know how else to explain it.

No, their goal is to turn him into a P&R ballhandler and perimeter scorer.

Or initially, both the team and Barnes to play on the perimeter. Meanwhile, for Barnes to play close to the basket, he got no moves.

It is sad that over last 3 years, his handle nor shooting is enough to be a perimeter scorer, where Siakam already have a guard handle at the very least around this age. Now for Barnes to improve his footwork to play as a big, that would be another few years, where Siakam is already near elite at this stage.

When looking at DeRozan and Siakam, their work ethic is simply much better, which is the reason I personally don't see Barnes reaching DeRozan or Siakam level. Barnes should have a much better handle and moves at this point, but really not just baby step on everything.

I think that's the most revealing thing is that despite the fact he has worked on his shooting since college the raw skills really have shown little improvement over all these years so expecting a leap there seems unreasonable. I can still see some improvements in his consistency and motor and professionalism and defense and AST:TO those are all possible to me. But when it comes to the handle, footwork, touch, etc.. ie the bag - I'm not buying that there's some radical improvement coming over the next couple of years.

[ConSarnit]

There’s every reason to think Scottie’s efficiency will improve as the team around him improves, as it will next year.

People also need to remember how important it is to have all-nba calibre defensive players.

There are legit reasons to be concerned about his scoring efficiency going forward. He has been below average in TS% for every year. Those include years where he has played with better players. The only time where his efficiency was good was during what now looks to be an unsustainable hot shooting stretch from 3 (the first 2 months of last year). The only area in which he has been respectable as a scorer this year has been from midrange and even that has fallen off as this year has progressed.

Barnes has shown very little across almost every scoring type. You’d expect to see some progress through 4 years and it hasn’t been there. We’ve all been pleased with his defensive progress but defensive PF’s who can’t shoot or score efficiently aren’t worth the max. His playmaking (while good) is not enough to make up for the current gaps in his scoring/shooting. If he were on another team we would without question be calling him a bad contract. Where are the areas he’s going to (or has already) improved that’s going to make him worth his contract? If you think he’s going to get better which areas is it going to be in because currently there isn’t much to support the idea of guranteed improvement. Most guys have a clear cut area you can count on to conpensate for slower development in other areas. What is Barnes “bread and butter”?

I hope Barnes develops but it’s starting to become a real concern that he has no real go-to moves or ways to consistently score efficiently. It’s worrying.

His bread and butter is a being a triple-double threat with world class defense. You act like he’s not averaging 20/8/6 with 3 stocks - any kind of tick upwards and he’s going to be well worth his next contract. Again Pascal was averaging 7.5 ppg at Scottie’s age, if he had a great handle it wasn’t really worth a damn.

His expected area of improvement is virtually every area of the court as he puts together an arsenal of moves as DeMar did over the same section of his career, and ups his 3 point percentage - he shot 34% last year and can/should surpass that as early as next season.

Having a true blue shotmaker in Ingram is going to make life that much easier for Scottie, he doesn’t have to be an elite scorer, and dollars to donuts he’ll benefit from playing next to one and with a better team overall.

Maybe most importantly he’s clearly grown into the role of a vocal leader. He needs to up his efficiency, but he sure looks and feels like an allstar to me. I’m confident he will be one again when the team gets back to playoff position.

Raw numbers don’t mean anything. The guy has the ball a lot. There are 200 guys in the league who could average 20ppg if the bar was set to 53 TS%.

His 34% on 3pt shooting looks to be an outlier. In the past 3 years Barnes has played 18 months of basketball. He’s shot above the league average from 3 in 3 of those months. He has shot below 30% in 13(!) of those months. He doesn’t have single month above 30% this entire season. By all accounts his early season 3pt shooting last year was a fluke.

You’re missing the fact that he’s had 4 years of real experience playing 35mpg. Hes not some guy who got buried on the bench. He’s had reps. He hasn’t shown progress in the majority of areas. His postup game could come around but we’ve seen that take a lot of time for most players. Who knows if that even happens during his next contract.

Barnes being the vocal leader doesn’t mean anything when he is a negative offensive player who we are paying the max to. He has to actually produce on the floor and the development has not been good.

[ConSarnit]

No, their goal is to turn him into a P&R ballhandler and perimeter scorer.

Or initially, both the team and Barnes to play on the perimeter. Meanwhile, for Barnes to play close to the basket, he got no moves.

It is sad that over last 3 years, his handle nor shooting is enough to be a perimeter scorer, where Siakam already have a guard handle at the very least around this age. Now for Barnes to improve his footwork to play as a big, that would be another few years, where Siakam is already near elite at this stage.

When looking at DeRozan and Siakam, their work ethic is simply much better, which is the reason I personally don't see Barnes reaching DeRozan or Siakam level. Barnes should have a much better handle and moves at this point, but really not just baby step on everything.

I think that's the most revealing thing is that despite the fact he has worked on his shooting since college the raw skills really have shown little improvement over all these years so expecting a leap there seems unreasonable. I can still see some improvements in his consistency and motor and professionalism and defense and AST:TO those are all possible to me. But when it comes to the handle, footwork, touch, etc.. ie the bag - I'm not buying that there's some radical improvement coming over the next couple of years.

I actually think shooting improvement is the most realistic way he can get better (at least short term). Everything else (becoming a dirty work/garbage man type) takes a radical change in Barnes play style. He clearly wants to play like a guard/wing. Who has been able to make a complete shift in play style after 4 years in the league? Shooting (as depressing as it might sound) is our best hope. He’s at least has stretches of solid 3pt and midrange shooting. He’s shown more flashes as a shooter than he has a big man banger/postup/screener type player.

It’s probably more realistic for Barnes to get his shooting to “acceptable” than it is to completely change him as a player. Is this encouraging? Nope.

[SkywalkerAC]

His 34% on 3pt shooting looks to be an outlier. In the past 3 years Barnes has played 18 months of basketball. He’s shot above the league average from 3 in 3 of those months. He has shot below 30% in 13(!) of those months. He doesn’t have single month above 30% this entire season. By all accounts his early season 3pt shooting last year was a fluke.

We’ll see. Career-wise it’s still early days on the shooting front. There are a multitude of guys -whether point guards or power forwards - that figured out the 3-point line as their career progressed. Jason Kidd comes to mind.

[ConSarnit]

His 34% on 3pt shooting looks to be an outlier. In the past 3 years Barnes has played 18 months of basketball. He’s shot above the league average from 3 in 3 of those months. He has shot below 30% in 13(!) of those months. He doesn’t have single month above 30% this entire season. By all accounts his early season 3pt shooting last year was a fluke.

We’ll see. Career-wise it’s still early days on the shooting front. There are a multitude of guys Barnes that figured out the 3-point line as their career progressed. Jason Kidd comes to mind.

I’m not writing Barnes off but a lot of the “players who figured it out” were guys who entered the league before the prevalence of the 3pt shot. They played at a time when 3pt shooting was far less emphasized. This applies to guys like Lowry and Kidd. I’ll also add that Kidd didn’t become a consistent 3pt shooter until his 30’s. I don’t know about you but waiting 6 more years for Barnes to figure it out seems less than ideal.

[PushDaRock]

Or initially, both the team and Barnes to play on the perimeter. Meanwhile, for Barnes to play close to the basket, he got no moves.

It is sad that over last 3 years, his handle nor shooting is enough to be a perimeter scorer, where Siakam already have a guard handle at the very least around this age. Now for Barnes to improve his footwork to play as a big, that would be another few years, where Siakam is already near elite at this stage.

When looking at DeRozan and Siakam, their work ethic is simply much better, which is the reason I personally don't see Barnes reaching DeRozan or Siakam level. Barnes should have a much better handle and moves at this point, but really not just baby step on everything.

I think that's the most revealing thing is that despite the fact he has worked on his shooting since college the raw skills really have shown little improvement over all these years so expecting a leap there seems unreasonable. I can still see some improvements in his consistency and motor and professionalism and defense and AST:TO those are all possible to me. But when it comes to the handle, footwork, touch, etc.. ie the bag - I'm not buying that there's some radical improvement coming over the next couple of years.

I actually think shooting improvement is the most realistic way he can get better (at least short term). Everything else (becoming a dirty work/garbage man type) takes a radical change in Barnes play style. He clearly wants to play like a guard/wing. Who has been able to make a complete shift in play style after 4 years in the league? Shooting (as depressing as it might sound) is our best hope. He’s at least has stretches of solid 3pt and midrange shooting. He’s shown more flashes as a shooter than he has a big man banger/postup/screener type player.

It’s probably more realistic for Barnes to get his shooting to “acceptable” than it is to completely change him as a player. Is this encouraging? Nope.

He either needs to become a FT merchant or has to learn to shoot. Not being able to do either isn't going to cut it unless we just accept he becomes a low usage 4th/5th option

[Tha Cynic]

Or initially, both the team and Barnes to play on the perimeter. Meanwhile, for Barnes to play close to the basket, he got no moves.

It is sad that over last 3 years, his handle nor shooting is enough to be a perimeter scorer, where Siakam already have a guard handle at the very least around this age. Now for Barnes to improve his footwork to play as a big, that would be another few years, where Siakam is already near elite at this stage.

When looking at DeRozan and Siakam, their work ethic is simply much better, which is the reason I personally don't see Barnes reaching DeRozan or Siakam level. Barnes should have a much better handle and moves at this point, but really not just baby step on everything.

I think that's the most revealing thing is that despite the fact he has worked on his shooting since college the raw skills really have shown little improvement over all these years so expecting a leap there seems unreasonable. I can still see some improvements in his consistency and motor and professionalism and defense and AST:TO those are all possible to me. But when it comes to the handle, footwork, touch, etc.. ie the bag - I'm not buying that there's some radical improvement coming over the next couple of years.

I actually think shooting improvement is the most realistic way he can get better (at least short term). Everything else (becoming a dirty work/garbage man type) takes a radical change in Barnes play style. He clearly wants to play like a guard/wing. Who has been able to make a complete shift in play style after 4 years in the league? Shooting (as depressing as it might sound) is our best hope. He’s at least has stretches of solid 3pt and midrange shooting. He’s shown more flashes as a shooter than he has a big man banger/postup/screener type player.

It’s probably more realistic for Barnes to get his shooting to “acceptable” than it is to completely change him as a player. Is this encouraging? Nope.

I agree with you here about changing his style. I think he gets the shots he should be getting and taking and can create separation. He’s missing them. That’s one of the things that gives me some hope. Can he get more accurate somehow. I agree that changing his game makes no sense at this point. This season he has basically given you everything he will do going forward from a scoring perspective and I don’t think he needs to add to his arsenal more than just make the shot (easier said than done). It’s the accuracy and consistent drawing of fouls that we will have to rely on.

I know the history isn’t good when you look at previous trends, but the combination of recently becoming #1 and trying star level shots, while still being raw, may give some hope that he gets more accurate with reps. When I watch the type of shots he takes, I like them and that’s something that gives me hope that he will improve that accuracy, but who knows. I do wish he was more forceful when going to the rim rather than flailing. I kind of agree with SkywalkerAC where I feel like this is still early in his career for his offense. The rest of his game has matured a ton this season.

Can he get a new trainer this offseason, please lol?

[dballislife]

we gotta stop talking about scottie in the same breath as rj and poeltl and quick, cause we can sit these 3

scottie actually needs these games just like our bench ppl, hes playing worse and worse as season goes on

[PushDaRock]

His 34% on 3pt shooting looks to be an outlier. In the past 3 years Barnes has played 18 months of basketball. He’s shot above the league average from 3 in 3 of those months. He has shot below 30% in 13(!) of those months. He doesn’t have single month above 30% this entire season. By all accounts his early season 3pt shooting last year was a fluke.

We’ll see. Career-wise it’s still early days on the shooting front. There are a multitude of guys Barnes that figured out the 3-point line as their career progressed. Jason Kidd comes to mind.

I’m not writing Barnes off but a lot of the “players who figured it out” were guys who entered the league before the prevalence of the 3pt shot. They played at a time when 3pt shooting was far less emphasized. This applies to guys like Lowry and Kidd. I’ll also add that Kidd didn’t become a consistent 3pt shooter until his 30’s. I don’t know about you but waiting 6 more years for Barnes to figure it out seems less than ideal.

Yeah, nobody that has come into the league in the last 10 years is unaware of the importance of the 3 point shot. If you're bad at it, the reason probably isn't from a lack of reps. It could still click at some point though, LeBron even after year 20 has managed to improve his 3 point shooting. But, as you said we don't have the time to wait for around years for that to happen.

[PushDaRock]

we gotta stop talking about scottie in the same breath as rj and poeltl and quick, cause we can sit these 3

scottie actually needs these games just like our bench ppl, hes playing worse and worse as season goes on

I thought he would be able to stat pad against these trash teams, somehow he's playing even worse against them

[dballislife]

we gotta stop talking about scottie in the same breath as rj and poeltl and quick, cause we can sit these 3

scottie actually needs these games just like our bench ppl, hes playing worse and worse as season goes on

I thought he would be able to stat pad against these trash teams, somehow he's playing even worse against them

in the game thread its like rj and scottie this rj scottie that lol but hes in the same category as our other guys right now...thats why the other 3 are taking turns sitting and scottie is playing all the games like all our young developing players