Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 8

[NH]

He looks closer to 5 10 imo. My concern with Kemba is defense. Especially as Raptors team D is so bad. Knight can excel there. I admit, Kemba should be fine offenively. So he is a safe pick and I can live with it. I've been wrong before. Demar hasn't shown much interest in defense so far in his NBA career. Which accelerates my fears of picking Kemba.

Same old story with this draft. Everybody outside of Irving has some kind of major flaw.

Kemba - Not as tall as we'd like.
Knight - Can he be an NBA PG?
D Williams - Can he play the 3?
Kanter - Is he tall/ athletic enough?
Biyombo - Is he too raw? Can he play basketball?
Jonas V - Too skinny/ weak. May not be athletic enough.

Irving seems like the only surefire 2 way player that can 100% effectively play his position.

I hope these guys have done more scouting/ analyzing than any other team, cause this is a difficult draft. It's all about forecasting whether or not a player can improve their flaws or get by with their flaws in the NBA.

The safest way to go in this draft is probably take the most NBA ready prospect that proves their worth in the pre-draft workouts.

Why is Irving a sure fire thing? He missed most of the NCAA season last year, and he only showed flashes of brilliance in the tournament. He is not exactly the complete package yet.

[Cool-Hand-Luke]

I'm pretty sure that BC or Embry will take Walker. Safe choice. Position of need. NBA ready. They won't put much thought into it.

BC has been humiliated enough, he's not going to take a risk on a raw big (Valanciunas, Biyombo). I doubt he'd take a risk on Kanter, who he likely hasn't seen play. I'm sure Knight is too young and flawed to throw a top 3 pick at and give the pg reigns to. He's going to want to make the playoffs ASAP.

Keep in mind that BC hadn't even worked out Ed Davis but still drafted him. Nothing's set in stone.

In that context, Ed Davis was the right pick. In this one, I think he'll go with a more proven, safe pick. He's not a patient rebuilder, he had to be handcuffed this year already or he would've traded the pick. He's going to take Kemba. That's my gut feeling. I've had it for a month or so.

Where did you get that from?

[Cool-Hand-Luke]

Btw, anyone who really thinks BC is taking Kemba Walker with the 2nd or 3rd pick is delusional.

We already have a Kemba Walker, we call him Jerryd Bayless

[Basketball_Jones]

My concern with Walker is his ability to finish in the paint. Other than that, I like his game.

[dagger]

Btw, anyone who really thinks BC is taking Kemba Walker with the 2nd or 3rd pick is delusional.

We already have a Kemba Walker, we call him Jerryd Bayless

I'm not Walker's biggest fan, but frankly, he projects a lot higher to me than Bayless who will continue to be what he is - a combo guard who can score the ball. In my view, Bayless is Barbosa's successor, not Jose's.

[yayotube]

Btw, anyone who really thinks BC is taking Kemba Walker with the 2nd or 3rd pick is delusional.

We already have a Brandon Knight, we call him Jerryd Bayless

I like Knight btw. But he's more Bayless than Kemba is

[Dr Positivity]

Chad Ford is doing tons of tweeting on workouts. If anyone's wondering. None of the big guys are in Vegas though - more like Kawhi, Selby, Malcom Lee

[bboyskinnylegs]

I like some of the guys that will be available with late picks: Darius Morris, Selby, CoJo, Bertans, Tyler, Nogueira (if he's still around)...all young guys (most are 18-19, Morris is 20), most of them having physical advantages in terms of length/athleticism, and decent prospects who might require some patience, but can develop into rotation players--or maybe even better.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Big fan of Darius Morris. I think he'll be a starting PG in the NBA, because he understands the game, is a true PG, and can defend. He just needs to improve his shooting.

I think he could go top 20.

Another guy I like is Nikola Vucevic. Decent defensively, but doesn't really have a position. He's more of a 5/4, but needs to get stronger in the upper-body, core.

Then, in the second rd. I like Jimmy Butler, Malcolm Lee.

All of the guys I mentioned, could conceivably out-perform their draft positions imo.

[demarderozanftw]

Enes Kanter shows his all around game at Tim Grover's Attack Athletics gym in Chicago. Dam he seems to have a great outside and inside game! (May 11-2011)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNK8siaYI7M&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

From these highlights, seems to me he has a great inside and outside game!

I want him in TORONTO!

[Rhettmatic]

Derrick Williams just tweeted that he worked out today with our very own Ed Davis, as well as Solomon Hill.

[HSOB SIRHC]

Enes Kanter shows his all around game at Tim Grover's Attack Athletics gym in Chicago. Dam he seems to have a great outside and inside game! (May 11-2011)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNK8siaYI7M&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

From these highlights, seems to me he has a great inside and outside game!

I want him in TORONTO!

Wow, he looks more athletic then I thought and I think he isn't even in the best shape yet.

[5DOM]

Obviously, it's only a workout vid, but I like him much more after seeing that video.

[fredericklove]

Derrick Williams just tweeted that he worked out today with our very own Ed Davis, as well as Solomon Hill.

Lol if DWill ends up a raptors, he and Ed will be new best friends or something. Heck, he'll be the new member of the Young Gunz and probably Clarence's replacement.

[TheRealDeal]

Well at least we know he can jump over a shot glass

[darth_federer]

Dime: Heading into the NBA Draft, what players excite you? Who do you think would fit in with your current Raptors squad?

Demar Derozan: It’s tough to say, but I like Kemba Walker’s game. I played against him in high school. Just the way he plays, I think he’ll make a major impact in the League using screen and rolls and being able to shoot and break down guards and everything. I like Kyrie Irving too, he’ll definitely be big. But I think there are just a handful of guys though.

[CanadaB-Ball]

Dime: Heading into the NBA Draft, what players excite you? Who do you think would fit in with your current Raptors squad?

Demar Derozan: It’s tough to say, but I like Kemba Walker’s game. I played against him in high school. Just the way he plays, I think he’ll make a major impact in the League using screen and rolls and being able to shoot and break down guards and everything. I like Kyrie Irving too, he’ll definitely be big. But I think there are just a handful of guys though.

This has already been posted.

[Kevin Willis]

I like his softness. Impressive.

[nahom1319]

Obviously, it's only a workout vid, but I like him much more after seeing that video.

Yea there isn't much to take away from that video, simply he has good fundamentals and he is definitely not as slow as I initially thought. he looks to have about average foot speed (hard to tell without a comparison).
That's about it the fact that those clips were strung together the way they are doesn't allow us to see much at all. Hope he posts some clips of him playing defense tomorrow.

[Rapsfan07]

Would it interest you all if we traded #3 + Bargnani for Cousins + Garcia? Do you think SAC would do this?