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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#461 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:47 pm

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I see it so often here. Not just Maxey but I've seen it in the past with Haliburton, SGA, Brunson, Bane, etc...

Another example is AJ Griffin and Bufkin not being good, but still thinking 25-year old Flynn can be the solution to our backup PG spot (which I hope does happen, by some miracle). I've joked about it in the past. Everyone else's players are finished products, but not ours lol.


This is…not a unique phenomenon.


For sure, it's common across all fanbases. I do think we are up there in terms of overrating our players, though not as bad as Knicks fans.


I think that’s just a function of us being the biggest fan base on realgm and the Knicks being second. You’ll notice reading a bunch of other boards out there that everyone gets attached to their players a whole lot.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#462 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:48 pm

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Pointgod wrote:Lmaoo quality bump. Raps fans have some horrendous takes when it comes to players on other teams.


I see it so often here. Not just Maxey but I've seen it in the past with Haliburton, SGA, Brunson, Bane, etc...

Another example is AJ Griffin and Bufkin not being good, but still thinking 25-year old Flynn can be the solution to our backup PG spot (which I hope does happen, by some miracle). I've joked about it in the past. Everyone else's players are finished products, but not ours lol.




MiamiSPX wrote: bother me at all, mainly because that Sixers roster is nothing special. Embiid turns 30 next season and won't have too much longer on those knees. Maxey is a sieve on D, and Harden (if he stays) will be 34 by the start of the season. Beyond that, they have nothing worth even mentioning. Good luck .


viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2294195&p=106586579&hilit=maxey#p106586579


The thing is, their roster really isn't anything special outside of their top 2 players. What I didn't see coming is Maxey playing at an MVP-level, in addition to Embiid continuing to play at that level. Anyone really going to say they are not top heavy?
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Post#463 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:49 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:A smallish guard who can't defend will always be exploited.

It doesn't really matter because Morey wouldn't give him up anyways, but I'd still take my chances long term with Precious. He's the type of player the NBA is trending towards.

LMAO


dude, if you're going to call out someone for their incorrect take, it's probably best to not have written almost the exact same incorrect take.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#464 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:52 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
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I see it so often here. Not just Maxey but I've seen it in the past with Haliburton, SGA, Brunson, Bane, etc...

Another example is AJ Griffin and Bufkin not being good, but still thinking 25-year old Flynn can be the solution to our backup PG spot (which I hope does happen, by some miracle). I've joked about it in the past. Everyone else's players are finished products, but not ours lol.




MiamiSPX wrote: bother me at all, mainly because that Sixers roster is nothing special. Embiid turns 30 next season and won't have too much longer on those knees. Maxey is a sieve on D, and Harden (if he stays) will be 34 by the start of the season. Beyond that, they have nothing worth even mentioning. Good luck .


viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2294195&p=106586579&hilit=maxey#p106586579


The thing is, their roster really isn't anything special outside of their top 2 players. What I didn't see coming is Maxey playing at an MVP-level, in addition to Embiid continuing to play at that level. Anyone really going to say they are not top heavy?


I mean you called Maxey a sieve on D and that was a real issue worth discussing.

Maxey has more than made up for his D issues with insanely efficient offense that not many people saw coming to this extent. But credit to him, I like being wrong about guys like him because he seems like a really good dude.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#465 » by EH15 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:52 pm

More potential than Maxey! What's the next gaslight?
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Re: Windhorst - 

Post#466 » by Duffman100 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:56 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:A smallish guard who can't defend will always be exploited.

It doesn't really matter because Morey wouldn't give him up anyways, but I'd still take my chances long term with Precious. He's the type of player the NBA is trending towards.

LMAO


dude, if you're going to call out someone for their incorrect take, it's probably best to not have written almost the exact same incorrect take.


Oh don't worry, he didn't use the search function. So apparently for some odd reason, it's all good.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#467 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:56 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
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viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2294195&p=106586579&hilit=maxey#p106586579


The thing is, their roster really isn't anything special outside of their top 2 players. What I didn't see coming is Maxey playing at an MVP-level, in addition to Embiid continuing to play at that level. Anyone really going to say they are not top heavy?


I mean you called Maxey a sieve on D and that was a real issue worth discussing.

Maxey has more than made up for his D issues with insanely efficient offense that not many people saw coming to this extent. But credit to him, I like being wrong about guys like him because he seems like a really good dude.


Well if you want me to admit I was wrong on Maxey, I have no problem saying that. I actually did always think he was a good player, but one that would give it all back on the defensive side. With this insane level he's at, I don't think even Nurse will care if he takes a few plays off on the defensive side. He's that good.

I do stand by their roster being nothing special. They have 2 guys in the MVP conversation in this early season though, so it's enough to have them at the top.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#468 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:56 pm

Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#469 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:59 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.


That was reported from the PHI side though and I don't believe anything that comes from Morey.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#470 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:02 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
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The thing is, their roster really isn't anything special outside of their top 2 players. What I didn't see coming is Maxey playing at an MVP-level, in addition to Embiid continuing to play at that level. Anyone really going to say they are not top heavy?


I mean you called Maxey a sieve on D and that was a real issue worth discussing.

Maxey has more than made up for his D issues with insanely efficient offense that not many people saw coming to this extent. But credit to him, I like being wrong about guys like him because he seems like a really good dude.


Well if you want me to admit I was wrong on Maxey, I have no problem saying that. I actually did always think he was a good player, but one that would give it all back on the defensive side. With this insane level he's at, I don't think even Nurse will care if he takes a few plays off on the defensive side. He's that good.

I do stand by their roster being nothing special. They have 2 guys in the MVP conversation in this early season though, so it's enough to have them at the top.


I think there are very people who predicted Maxey would eventually average 30 on 60+ TS, even PHI fans and people who really liked him early on.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#471 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
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I mean you called Maxey a sieve on D and that was a real issue worth discussing.

Maxey has more than made up for his D issues with insanely efficient offense that not many people saw coming to this extent. But credit to him, I like being wrong about guys like him because he seems like a really good dude.


Well if you want me to admit I was wrong on Maxey, I have no problem saying that. I actually did always think he was a good player, but one that would give it all back on the defensive side. With this insane level he's at, I don't think even Nurse will care if he takes a few plays off on the defensive side. He's that good.

I do stand by their roster being nothing special. They have 2 guys in the MVP conversation in this early season though, so it's enough to have them at the top.


I think there are very people who predicted Maxey would eventually average 30 on 60+ TS, even PHI fans and people who really liked him early on.


I also agree with your comment about him being a good dude. More than that, he seems to always enjoy being on the court. Nothing wrong with smiling while you play. He's a treat to watch, except when he's single handedly destroying us, which seems to happen often.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#472 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:11 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.


That was reported from the PHI side though and I don't believe anything that comes from Morey.


Based on Masai's track history, how can you say that you don't believe that, epecially when he came out after the deadline to say how much he really values Lowry.

He hasn't been able to find any trade when he's had to be a seller that meets his requirements. Let's see how the OG/Siakam/Trent situations play out because that will ultimately dictate his post championship legacy.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#473 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:12 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
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Well if you want me to admit I was wrong on Maxey, I have no problem saying that. I actually did always think he was a good player, but one that would give it all back on the defensive side. With this insane level he's at, I don't think even Nurse will care if he takes a few plays off on the defensive side. He's that good.

I do stand by their roster being nothing special. They have 2 guys in the MVP conversation in this early season though, so it's enough to have them at the top.


I think there are very people who predicted Maxey would eventually average 30 on 60+ TS, even PHI fans and people who really liked him early on.


I also agree with your comment about him being a good dude. More than that, he seems to always enjoy being on the court. Nothing wrong with smiling while you play. He's a treat to watch, except when he's single handedly destroying us, which seems to happen often.


The Maxey/Barnes allstar game flub was hilarious. I can root for guys like this.

I have zero problem admitting that I was dead wrong about Maxey. The dude has turned himself into something really great. I think Harden demanding out was a blessing for PHI because it means more ball for Maxey.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#474 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:12 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
Well if you want me to admit I was wrong on Maxey, I have no problem saying that. I actually did always think he was a good player, but one that would give it all back on the defensive side. With this insane level he's at, I don't think even Nurse will care if he takes a few plays off on the defensive side. He's that good.

I do stand by their roster being nothing special. They have 2 guys in the MVP conversation in this early season though, so it's enough to have them at the top.


I think there are very people who predicted Maxey would eventually average 30 on 60+ TS, even PHI fans and people who really liked him early on.


I also agree with your comment about him being a good dude. More than that, he seems to always enjoy being on the court. Nothing wrong with smiling while you play. He's a treat to watch, except when he's single handedly destroying us, which seems to happen often.


At least we are finally not alone in that boat.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#475 » by kalel123 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:12 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.


That was reported from the PHI side though and I don't believe anything that comes from Morey.


This was a pure lie spewed by Morey due to sourness at not being able to close the deal IMO. That is why I firmly distrust any "reports" and rumors of what was offered for Lowry back then especially when it comes to Sixers.

Look at what Morey came up as backup deal to failed Lowry trade in George Hill and low value garbage he gave up to get him. No doubt Morey lowballed on the offer for Lowry and didn't offer much of anything. So not sure why people keep bringing this thread back from the dead when this had little to do with Maxey.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#476 » by Scase » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:13 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.


That was reported from the PHI side though and I don't believe anything that comes from Morey.

Masai isn't exactly mister honesty either. I think it's safe to say that nothing any of these guys say is trustworthy.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#477 » by Chandan » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:14 pm

kalel123 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Always remember the scenario being Masai asking for Maxey, Thybulle, fillers AND a 1st Round pick for Lowry.


That was reported from the PHI side though and I don't believe anything that comes from Morey.


This was a pure lie spewed by Morey due to sourness at not being able to close the deal IMO. That is why I firmly distrust any "reports" and rumors of what was offered for Lowry back then especially when it comes to Sixers.

Look at what Morey came up as backup deal to failed Lowry trade in George Hill and low value garbage he gave up to get him. No doubt Morey lowballed on the offer for Lowry and didn't offer much of anything. So not sure why people keep bringing this thread back from the dead when this had little to do with Maxey.


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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#478 » by wegotthabeet » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:31 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:




viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2294195&p=106586579&hilit=maxey#p106586579


The thing is, their roster really isn't anything special outside of their top 2 players. What I didn't see coming is Maxey playing at an MVP-level, in addition to Embiid continuing to play at that level. Anyone really going to say they are not top heavy?


I mean you called Maxey a sieve on D and that was a real issue worth discussing.

Maxey has more than made up for his D issues with insanely efficient offense that not many people saw coming to this extent. But credit to him, I like being wrong about guys like him because he seems like a really good dude.


i have to disagree with you here.

a player can never make up for his D issues even with efficient offense. i like Maxey, but he will always be targeted on D, especially in the playoffs. i also prefer bigger guards for this very reason.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#479 » by Airmiess » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:42 pm

Because Jamal Murray and Steph Curry won titles being great defenders..

or maybe great offense makes everything else easier. Maybe more possessions with great offense gives you a better chance at winning..who knows.

Im sure Raptors will make the playoffs with their great defensive players.
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Re: Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey" 

Post#480 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:44 pm

Airmiess wrote:Because Jamal Murray and Steph Curry won titles being great defenders..

or maybe great offense makes everything else easier. Maybe more possessions with great offense gives you a better chance at winning..who knows.


Player defence has always been overrated in the NBA. Good team defence can easily mask positional defensive weaknesses. Like you said, look at Curry, and more recently, Jokic. These guys can't defend anyone one-on-one, yet they're two of the most dominant players of the last 10 years. It's much easier to build a great team defence than it is to find elite offensive talent. Defensive role players can be found in the bargain bin every season.

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